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10-13-2015 , 04:59 PM
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Originally Posted by playr
even the $4.40 8max which starts at the same time as $11 8max isnt have extended blind levels. looks like there is no concept behind it so let me tell you all regspeed tournaments need this addition!
Agreed. One of the $4.40 8-max should definitley have 10-12-15 levels format and this one at 10:45 ET is a perfect candidate for that.

(together with at least one of the following:
11:45 $5.50 $2.5k Gtd
12:00 $3.30 $2.5k Gtd
12:15 $8.80 $4k Gtd
13:15 $11 $5k Gtd
what I was implying many times before)
10-14-2015 , 12:00 PM
109r canceled embarassing
10-14-2015 , 12:04 PM
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Originally Posted by rounder63
109r canceled embarassing
10-14-2015 , 12:12 PM
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Originally Posted by rounder63
109r canceled embarassing
what the **** stars...

adjust minimum players to 5 or something this is so dumb.
10-14-2015 , 12:26 PM
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Originally Posted by rounder63
109r canceled embarassing
Poooooooof
10-14-2015 , 12:53 PM
Can't even find 9 high stakes players to start a 109r game. Such Demand. Wow
10-14-2015 , 02:12 PM
so is a friday, saturday or sunday (hyper)turbo zoom weekly (sunday) happening ?
10-14-2015 , 03:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Kranke_EinZ
what the **** stars...

adjust minimum players to 5 or something this is so dumb.
If the first levels continue to be meaningless, more tournaments will be cancelled.

Players regging from the start should be an incentive. Even something like 5% more chips will do the trick
10-14-2015 , 04:05 PM
11c on a withered wednesday 10k gtd reached 15k... please give gtd boost to the tournaments that deserve so
10-14-2015 , 04:28 PM
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Originally Posted by mashxx
if there was only a mod to do it properly
you mod?
10-14-2015 , 04:58 PM
Would like to see a little more 6max plain regspeed tourneys, especially in low to midstakes buyins. Seems like every 6max is a psko, turbo, rebuy,..

might be biased bc of my playing hours, not sure
10-14-2015 , 04:59 PM
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Originally Posted by sirswish6
you mod?
looooooooooooooooooooooool
10-14-2015 , 05:22 PM
this 109 six max prog shoudl be a daily tournament....
10-14-2015 , 06:58 PM
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Originally Posted by rounder63
this 109 six max prog shoudl be a daily tournament....
agree with rounderino
10-14-2015 , 11:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Mecastyles
so is a friday, saturday or sunday (hyper)turbo zoom weekly (sunday) happening ?
YEAH?!? Weekly Zoom between 33/162$
10-15-2015 , 10:18 AM
I suggested it before, but isn't it possible to keep tournaments on hold if they don't make minimun entries. Just change the color or something for 15m, so people can still reg it.
10-15-2015 , 10:55 AM
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Originally Posted by DBerglin
Luke, is there any chance for us to see big 215 in the lobby this year? Bryan told us we could expect to see it after SCOOP. Can you please tell us why it is taking so long time?

You should also turn one of the 215 turbos into Hot 215.
At the moment, it is unlikely. I'm working on various proposals to add new red tournaments to the schedule; however, I do not believe a daily high stakes Big would be a resounding success. The daily prize pools of the Big $109, Big $162, and Sunday Warm-Up have been on the decline, albeit very slowly. I don’t see any reason to expect that a Big $215 would reverse this trend, or indeed do anything but follow this trend after the initial shine wears off. If you disagree and would like to share your thoughts, feel free to do so.

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Originally Posted by DBerglin
The 11r action hour 21.00 CET is really worthless now so I think it would be better to remove it and move the 11r 22.00 one hour earlier, at the moment it is starting to late for most recs to play it, especially when it has so low GTD
This is a good suggestion. Done beginning Monday with a "New Structure & Time!" tag.

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Originally Posted by Alexo
Bring back $265 KO, put the $215 PSKO elsewhere
Sorry, the $215 PSKO is staying. The guarantee has been increased to $20K daily. I expect another guarantee increase in short order.

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Originally Posted by Uhrenknecht
MM is coming back in a few months, just read up.
I did not say this, nor do I know when MicroMillions is returning. My clarification was simply that Common Cents is not a permanent replacement for MicroMillions.

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Originally Posted by blakkman08
yes please change the time for sko and weekender would make saturdays sooo much beter
Beginning October 24th, the Saturday Super-Knockout will move to 14:00 ET and The Weekender will move to 11:30 ET. All satellites will be moved an hour later as well.

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Originally Posted by tl65\
You could drop the first couple pointless levels to keep run times about the same

Also the time change for the weekender/320 would really help
My answer from the satellite thread:

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Beginning Monday, all deep turbos will have the "new" (and hopefully final) structure. It begins at 25/50 rather than 10/20. Level 12 is still 500/1,000.
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Originally Posted by I AmLegend11
+1

There should be FPP hyper sattys to all red labeled tournaments. Let's get as many participants as many ways as we can.

I think this would enable many regulars to take shots entering high stakes red labeled tournaments that they normally couldn't afford buying into directly with cash.
I've reduced the number of FPP satellites over the past months. FPPs are tricky--they are not a currency players can deposit. I want them to have exciting opportunities to spend them in tournaments. For that reason, I've slowly reduced the number of FPP satellites while updating the remaining offering. This is an ongoing project but the results have been very encouraging.

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Originally Posted by Fanta Pomelo
Replacements
We def need some replacements for 55r, 33r, 109q. Lots of good ideas already. Pick some, build the scheduele.
Before this, I'd like to update the 17:00 ET $55 FO. Any ideas? Multi-stack VLT? It needs a change!

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Originally Posted by rounder63
Please take a look at 8r performance its surpassed 10k gtd everyday
Many tournaments have received guarantee increases. Some of them are going into effect immediately (Big $55, $109, $215 PSKO, etc.), while some of them will go into effect Monday, 19 October.

An easy way of seeing what has changed is going to Tourney -> All over the weekend and searching for "Boost" or "New".

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Originally Posted by anuj22


Something needs to be done with those $3.85 deep sats, so many entrants in satellite but its target event got cancelled because only 1 registered. Either move deep sats 15-30 mins early, or move back 27 badugi 15-30 mins later.
The satellites have been changed beginning Monday; however, it is a shame that a red tournament can't get three players to register at the start!

Also, all of the Daily $27 turbo deep satellites have changed to $3.30. A few guarantees were increased in the process. No guarantees were lowered.

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Originally Posted by broken_jia
A couple of tournaments that can get late reg increased from 60 mins to 90 mins:

10:05 - $27 PLO 6-max PKO
11:05 - $27 PLO 6-max PKO
13:05 - $8.80 NL Courchevel H/L
13:05 - $27 NLO8 PKO
15:05 - $22 NLO8 6-max

Also, can you change the structure of the $22 PLO8 at 11:35 to the same as the $55 PLO8 at 13:35?
10:05 - I think this was a typo on your part
11:05 - structure and late registration updated
22:46 - structure updated
13:05 - no change on Cour8, NLO8 late registration updated
15:05 - late registration updated

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Originally Posted by broken_jia
A general question for you, Luke. Do you think tournament buyins should change over time to adjust for inflation?
If the poker world was completely static, yes. In my opinion, the biggest factor would be currency fluctuation. You suggest that the Sunday Million could have its prize pool grow if the buy-in was increased. In reality, that could price out Russia, one of our biggest markets, due to the Ruble exchange rate change vs. USD over the last year.

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Originally Posted by broken_jia
Luke, this was your response re: the $82 Omaha PKOs a few weeks ago.
Any chance you can add something soon? Just copy what the $215 NLO8 has.

Also, the suggestion of adding a pink-mega satellite was a way for you guys to promote a non-holdem game. I think there's should be one mega satellite each weekend that targets an $82 tournament. You have Razz, PLO, PLO8, NLO8, Stud 8, FLO8, 2-7 Triple Draw and NL 2-7 Single Draw to alternate between.

You can also guarantee boost the tournament being featured each week. Sorta a more sustainable version of FTP's GOTW.
I've added some new satellites for the $82 PLO and NLO8 PSKO tournaments beginning this Sunday. As a reminder, the Sunday PLO and NLO8 PSKOs have had their guarantees increased for this Sunday!

The idea of adding a pink satellite is certainly not a bad one, but likely doesn't garner much interest without a full slate of communications. Taking communications away from something like Common Cents (or any other number of huge player-base facing promotions) is quite unlikely. The result is that most players would be confused by the concept.

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Originally Posted by krazykarter
What happened to all the timed tournaments with 6 10-minute levels? I really enjoyed playing those, but I don't see any more on the schedule.
The 60-minute versions were replaced with 30-minutes because they averaged 50-60% lower traffic. Basically, I gave all of the time tournaments guarantees and if I hadn't switched the 60-minute versions, they would've had some pitiful guarantees. Apologies if you're disappointed.

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Originally Posted by SSKS
when is the mega satty to PCA? and how much is cost? idk if its just me but when i search for EPT satties, i cant find future dated tournies, only completed ones.
It will be announced soon along with some other PCA-specific tourney love.

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Originally Posted by Asjbaaaf
9.30 16.50 8max could be 90 mins late reg

thnx for extending those other ones , much better
Ok, ok, let's slow these down and see what happens with the others first!

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Originally Posted by anuj22
Sad to see this tourney go overlay thanks to Bubble Effect.



Please have a look at daily 27 schedule, stud, badugi, 2-7sd are struggling at this time slot, move them later maybe
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Originally Posted by DoGGz
I agree with the time slot issues. A bunch of these players play all games and having them run in time slots that obviously aren't highly supported doesn't do them much good.
I'm open to moving them around, but I think the counterargument to the above is that multi-tabling those games is also difficult. Regardless, they're struggling, so a change is needed.

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Originally Posted by RPH
Luke

Once again it's been proved that once you put a nice promo (like this KO week) hundreds of players log in again and come back to play MTTs.

Look at today:

No promo = Slow Monday

Big Promo = Big Monday

Simple as that. Hope you continue with weeks like this, which prove that there is still a big player base for MTTs as long as you offer players something juicy to play.
Yes, promotional weeks with massive email blasts and financial support do well.

I'm glad people are enjoying Knockout Week. It has had some pretty crazy fields already!

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Originally Posted by playr
really like the extended blind levels at later stages in some tournaments (like $11 4k 8max) but what is the concept behind this as i dont get it why there is tournamnets with extended blind levels and why there is tournaments with the regular blind levels the whole time. i think it is a really nice addition and all tournement should use it. it would make regular speed tournaments does not look like a turbo tournament from last three tables.

even the $4.40 8max which starts at the same time as $11 8max isnt have extended blind levels. looks like there is no concept behind it so let me tell you all regspeed tournaments need this addition!
I'm glad you like it! We are likely to trend toward variable level times. For now, it is a bit difficult to surface to players in the client.

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Originally Posted by anuj22
Current $27 Daily Offering time(ET) slot:

Code:
09:15 Badugi         Struggling at current slot
10:15 Razz
11:15 Stud           Struggling
11:45 NL 2-7SD       Struggling
12:45 PL 5 Card Draw
13:15 8 Game
14:15 Limit Holdem
15:15 FL 2-7TD
16:15 Horse
17:15 Limit Stud H/L
18:15 FL Omaha H/L
Suggestion for new $27 Daily time slot:

Code:
10:15 Razz
12:15 Badugi
12:45 PL 5 Card Draw
13:15 8 Game
13:45 NL 2-7SD
14:15 Limit Holdem
14:45 Stud
15:15 FL 2-7TD
16:15 Horse
17:15 Limit Stud H/L
18:15 FL Omaha H/L
  • $3.85 deep sats run 45 mins prior to Daily $27, have them run 60 mins prior
  • Also move back $82 Weekly Badugi, stud, nl 2-7sd so they run 45 mins after Daily 27 as currently scheduled
  • Hyper sats to Daily 27 for some reason runs only on Mondays, please make them run everyday

This was suggested long back, also we suggested you to have a look at nl 2-7sd structure - lots of level missing, can you please have a look?
Much work is needed to help out the Daily $27s. I can't promise any immediate changes, but I'm aware they need updated. In the meantime, please continue with suggestions.

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Originally Posted by Aguskb
love the KO week sched and field sizes... def need to utilize the power of this more... even if you did a featured daily KO special tourney or something 1-3 times day or had a KO day once per week (on mon, wed or fri), or ko week once per month
It wouldn't be as powerful if we did it all the time! I do think that for how popular knockout tournaments are, we do a sub-par job of promoting them.

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Originally Posted by broken_jia
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The bottom tier games need to be scheduled based on when the majority of the demand is so that they have the highest % of running.

I think it would make sense to put horse or 8 game in an earlier timezone (I.e 3:05) and put one of the bottom tier games in there to maximize # of games that run (and amount of rake stars generates).

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From my perspective, it looks as though you want to force the larger pool of players to play their favorite formats at off-peak times so that we can expose the least popular formats to the most players in hopes that they don't cancel?

I'd rather just stuff all of those tournaments into peak time!

I'll do something about the Daily $27s in due time. Until then, I appreciate the suggestions and would like as many as you can muster up! Mixed games are not my strong suit.
10-15-2015 , 11:34 AM
I'm really liking the Hyper Turbo 2X Shootout satellites to the milly and to the Knockout Week events. Please keep up these Hyper satellites for all the majors or big buy-in tourneys. Getting a seat in a $55 for a quick $1.53 Hyper is excellent value. Moar please.
10-15-2015 , 11:52 AM
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Originally Posted by PokerStars Luke
Before this, I'd like to update the 17:00 ET $55 FO. Any ideas? Multi-stack VLT? It needs a change!
A semi-turbo vlt tourney is a good idea for then, after most people stop regging reg speed tourneys (~big 162) and before all the turbos in the following 90mins ish start. Personally not that big of a fan of multi-stack and I think it would get more people as a vlt freezeout.



re daily 27s from ages ago:
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Originally Posted by davidv1213
Daily 27s look really good, I think they need to be ordered differently though. A very big % of people who might reg them are also going to be playing the main nl tourney schedule and they need to work around that a bit imo.


eg.
8game would probably be one of the most popular but it is at one of the busiest times for tournaments (18.15 gmt) and takes a lot of focus/table space, I would likely add it to my schedule every day if it were at 22.15 gmt where stud8 is at the moment and could register it when my session is winding down. This likely applies to quite a lot of other people too.

LHE and mixed holdem are probably the easiest to multitable so are ok to start at busier times or just before lots of nlhe mtts start

2-7SD likely to be v popular w nlhe players and is easier to bust quickly as a NL game so is perfect for the latest starting slot (23.15 gmt) when people are winding down tables and reging NL turbos

Stud games are likely to have the least crossover w nl players since they are by far the hardest to multi table so I'd put some of them at peak times.



NLHE is the most popular game by so far that paying attention to the nl schedule like this is important to get the best numbers for these tourneys imo. I would suggest something like this based on how easy the games are to multi table and my opinions/guesses how popular they'd each be with NLHE players:

14.15 Badugi
15.15 2-7TD
16.15 LO8
16.45 Razz
17.15 LHE
17.45 Stud
18.15 HORSE
19.15 Stud 8
20.15 5CD
21.15 Mixed HE
22.15 8 game
23.15 2-7SD

Hope you can understand why I think this would be an improvement. I'd like to play a lot of these but I can't justify skipping mid/high nl mtts to do it
10-15-2015 , 11:58 AM
lots of good stuff there thnx luke. hoping the deep turb structure is as good as it sounds
10-15-2015 , 01:05 PM
Great to see you are stepping up your game itc luke.

While there isn't a b215/h215 thanks for stating why you haven't added one and that you are open to listening to why it should exist.

Shows that you are actually listening to our legitimate complaints and taking them seriously.

Keep it up.

Any chance we could see a reduction in turbo rake for 50's+?

(Stars charges 2x the rake in turbos effectively than in reg speeds, there is no reason this should be the case, and it affects those games negatively as well. A reduction in rake with a promo to go with would help these games immensely and prove to be a very profitable long term decision for the company and the players.)
10-15-2015 , 02:16 PM
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Originally Posted by PokerStars Luke
The 60-minute versions were replaced with 30-minutes because they averaged 50-60% lower traffic. Basically, I gave all of the time tournaments guarantees and if I hadn't switched the 60-minute versions, they would've had some pitiful guarantees. Apologies if you're disappointed.
My problem with it is that there is now a sub-group of tournaments with absolutely zero option for those of us that don't like turbos. The 60-minute games played close enough to a turbo due to the small starting stack. Now our only options are 30 minute ridiculous shove-fests.

For games like this I don't know if it's relevant to compare participation levels between the 60 and 30 minute games. The games are not long enough for large field sizes to matter. It is even more fun when the tables get short-handed in the late stages and we end up playing 5-6 handed in the final level.
10-15-2015 , 04:10 PM
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Originally Posted by PokerStars Luke
The satellites have been changed beginning Monday; however, it is a shame that a red tournament can't get three players to register at the start!
Agreed. Also its a big shame that even after getting buy in reduced of weekly tourneys from $215 to $82, they are getting same 10-15 entrants it used to get when it had $215 buy in specially for badugi, stud, nl 2-7sd. Perhaps timeslot is a big factor and/or people don't like to play early levels these days. I hope they will do well at peak hrs.

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Also, all of the Daily $27 turbo deep satellites have changed to $3.30. A few guarantees were increased in the process. No guarantees were lowered.
Thanks a lot.

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I'll do something about the Daily $27s in due time. Until then, I appreciate the suggestions and would like as many as you can muster up! Mixed games are not my strong suit.
Imo the ones that are not doing well def needs change in their time slot, the ones that are doing well - no change required. But as broken_jia pointed out there's a gap of 12 hrs with no red non-holdem tournament but again imo daily 27's would do much better at peak hrs than to spread them out to cater entire player pool.

Also Luke, please have a look at $5.50 NL 2-7SD at 12:50 ET, this tourney is really struggling last couple of days. Can you change its time level from 15 mins to 10 mins till late reg period. This tourney is hardly getting any re-entries, also can you extend its late reg?
10-15-2015 , 04:11 PM
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Originally Posted by broken_jia
Don't think $7.50s are a good idea atm. It will segregate the player pool and increase the chances of a $27 Badugi from running. Many players will play just one tournament, and if they can play for $7.50, they'll just skip the $27, assuming they start around the same time.
Oh I meant running them 12 hrs apart from $27 daily time. Like if daily $27 8 game runs at 13:15 ET, they could run daily $7.50 8 game at 01:15 ET.
10-15-2015 , 05:04 PM
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did not say this, nor do I know when MicroMillions is returning
What was the incentive on delaying Micromillions and if you don't know when it will be back, who does?

      
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