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10-08-2015 , 06:59 AM
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Originally Posted by anuj22
Have mid stake series instead of the micro millions that you have in november. I think 2 micro millions and 1 mid stake series* instead of 3 mm series per year would be nice. And seriously you cant replace micro millions with common cents? Wtf?

*Mid stake series of 5-7 days covering all popular variants of poker
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Originally Posted by Uhrenknecht
Common Cents needs longer late reg.
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Originally Posted by macetheace
No micro millions got to say im gutted as a small stakes fish :-(
Common cents is just garbage.
I only play low stakes tournys and there is nothing to look forward to now
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Originally Posted by Watermolonz
How can the common cents be intended as any type of replacement for the MM?

This is a joke of a decision to be fair.

Low stakes players are the lifeblood of the site, take away this and you are taking away a lot of future liquidity. Its the only series where low stakes players can genuinely play for 10K+ scores, multiple times, day in, day out, for a couple of weeks.

Please rethink this decision.
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Originally Posted by UPAY4DINNER
I really thought when you said that CC was an intended semi replacement for MM that you were joking Luke, apparently, you weren't.

Just beyond ridiculous now.
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Originally Posted by Pierich
Please do not replace MM with Common cents, easily the worst idea put forward all year
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Originally Posted by Kelvin Kerber
i dont really care about micro millions, but still, thinking about replace it by commum cents is the most ridic stuff that i've ever heard. The micro staker world is so big and ppl get so excited once micromillions r running that i just wouldnt understand if it stopped running twice per year
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Originally Posted by HorvatH
its replacing common sense
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Originally Posted by limplied
Pathetic. There is zero to look forward to if you're a small stakes player.
hey guys, lets this thread started, its clearly all microlow stuff is lost in this thread full of high stakes discussion, so post any ideas you have on microlow stakes in this thread: http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/61...hread-1564618/
10-08-2015 , 07:19 AM


You dun fkd up the pop up with the then/than thing. Or is that a silent nod to 2+2's fav grammatical error.
10-08-2015 , 07:49 AM
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Originally Posted by fivetypes


You dun fkd up the pop up with the then/than thing. Or is that a silent nod to 2+2's fav grammatical error.
it's acceptable in indian grammar
10-08-2015 , 08:44 AM
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Originally Posted by playr
hey what about those 75% PSKOs it was very successfull as i seen. why not bring one to the client daily, not need to be part of the regular schedule
It was just a test for now; however, it is possible it sneaks into the main schedule in short order. The issue is creating a fair pay table. The tests deployed were created with a pay table written on paper!

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Originally Posted by Transcendence
Will guarantees be reduced on all Mondays luke? I assume its because of post sunday but it seems a little excessive on some of the tournaments (8r, 8 cubed and 13.50 ko for ex)

Also huge +1 to KO week. It looks bloody fantastic!
No, this past Monday was my mistake. I did not update the scripts from last Monday. They'll be back to normal this coming Monday, with some increases as well.

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Originally Posted by ChoakMyDee
Are there any satellites into the Common Cents Kick-Off? I can't seem to find any.
We actually did have freeroll satellites to it.

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Originally Posted by yeahm8
Please consider changing the structure of all deep turbos to be the same as those for the nightly 55, plus add the 250/500 blind level. Here's an image to demonstrate the difference, bad one on the left, good one on the right. It's okay if they run for a bit longer, this is what most people want. Just move the start times back 30 minutes or so if you have to.

The Sunday Million has 250/500 and 500/1000. That structure will likely replace the current turbo deep structure once there is a sample and I can determine average run times. I'll be adding it to the Warm-Up beginning Monday.

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Originally Posted by Asjbaaaf
07.45 4.40 8max, 90 min late reg pls <3
Done beginning Monday.

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Originally Posted by mashxx
wishful thinking Asj.

10:45 $21 SKO still has 60 mins late reg even though there's a small $11 FO running at the same time that has the same structure which does have 90 mins late reg. Was pointed out multiple times over past couple of months, still nothing was done.
Done beginning Monday.

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Originally Posted by Asjbaaaf
11.30 13.50 KO 90 minutes late reg also please
Done beginning Monday.

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Originally Posted by ORLY???
Def think the weekender would perform better if it started at like 18:30 CET instead of 16:30 CET.

I have been thinking about the offering of highstakes, and I think it is weird that the biggest buyins are on tuesday/thursday and not on sunday. What about a 1k/2k 8max/6max on sunday, for example starting at 19:30 CET? On sunday the all the regs are obv playing so it would get huge, and don't think it would take away much from other tournaments since its buy-in would be quite a lot bigger, especially a 2k.

It's weird to me that in a live setting the tournaments get bigger and bigger, but the biggest we can play online weekly is a 1k, and only a 500 on sundays.
Every tournament would perform better if it was planted in the middle of peak time, that's for sure. As far as the Sunday 500 being the biggest buy-in major on Sunday, it makes sense because of all the other noise on a Sunday. The Super Tuesday/Thursday Thrill have all of the attention on their respective days.

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Originally Posted by blakkman08
Yea many things in that update make no sense. Common cents attracts an entirely different player pool than micro millions, there currently isn't anything for people to look forward to in the calendar who play a 20-30 avg buyin other than scoop. At least do sth like carnival again or something. The weekender is just fine as it is but that doesn't mean the max potential for mtts of a buyin bigger than 200 is being reached. Same goes for mtts of 75-200 buyin especially on Tuesdays Thursdays and sundays...
"I was not clear when describing Common Cents as a "semi-replacement". What I meant is that it is a replacement in the sense that it is taking time on the promotional calendar in October, and MicroMillions is not. MicroMillions will almost certainly be back, and Common Cents could happen again as well."

Also, November and December is always full of promotions. There will be plenty of tournaments to play...

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Originally Posted by zuckmeout
ppl want carnival, give ppl carnival!
...but Bigs/Hots are not on the docket this year.

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Originally Posted by LostOstrich
Hey Luke,

You mentioned recently that the Steps system is set for an overhaul in the new year. Why not close out the year with a Steps Tickets Farewell Series (feel free to think of a sexier name):

Every day for a week or two, run a few events with $7.50, $27, $82, $215 buyins. Add a $700 main and a $2100 highroller, and market it as the last chance to use your steps tickets for a big value series.

It would give players of all buyin ranges something to get excited about, whilst also drawing attention to the fact that there'll be a new tickets system to look forward to coming soon.
This is actually a great idea; however, there would be some irony in the fact that the only time we heavily market the Steps system is when it is going away. No plans have been made for the Steps as of yet.

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Originally Posted by Uhrenknecht
Common Cents needs longer late reg.
I'll pass this feedback along.

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Originally Posted by the_bridler
Not too hard to guess why the weekender has failed to deliver so far.Lack of promotion and a terrible sat schedule with an overpriced small selection.

Its almost like you wanted this tournament to fail by lack of effort in these areas.
I think this is very results-oriented thinking. The satellites are not all that different from other majors and many communications were sent out to alert players of the addition. Hell, it ran all through WCOOP. Players know it exists.

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Originally Posted by HorvatH
Probably not so many players will get excited about them if you going to award so small % of the prizepools in entries.
Again, this was a spur of the moment decision. We'll still be awarding several thousand dollars in Knockout Week tickets. Had they been a part of the promotional communications (or money was added to the prize pool), I'd have been much more aggressive with the number of tickets being awarded. Early signs have shown that they're very successful at driving traffic. We'll continue to use hybrid satellites in the future.

Lastly, I am aware of the issue with the fact that they need to be deployed as satellites; however, prize pools in these tournaments have increased considerably this week. This shows that players can find them. Because of this, I will not ask for a fix to be prioritized. I'll try to communicate the affected tournaments the next time we create hybrids. Besides, it isn't like it is a bad thing to have players go look at satellites.

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Originally Posted by DoGGz
The Weekender doesn't start later in the day because the Sat SKO starts later in the day. Those two tournaments are never going to start on top of each other.
Very true. Many of the high stakes players seem to ignore the fact that casual players (or enthusiasts) are extremely important to build prize pools and guarantees in these tournaments.

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Originally Posted by blakkman08
Imo remove the sat 320 if need be and put weekender in its place.its a MUCH more enjoyable mtt than the 320sko

Or switch places as the 320 will do just fine esp if it runs alongside the 215 psko but the 530 would explode massively at 1900cet
This is extremely subjective. The Saturday SKO is an immensely popular tournament among casual players. This is evidenced by the popularity of its satellites and week-to-week participation.

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Originally Posted by andrefs
Because $530 8-max 2-day is more appealing than $320 SKO.
This is also subjective thinking. The Saturday SKO has much, much higher participation in both satellites and the event itself.

As a result of your feedback, we're considering moving the Saturday SKO to 14:00 and The Weekender to 11:30. This would put the Saturday SKO one hour away from the Big $109 and into the current "major" slot on Saturdays.

Last edited by The Lipo Fund; 10-09-2015 at 01:26 PM.
10-08-2015 , 08:51 AM
Thanks for the responses Luke!

Do you have any opinion on making the Super Tuesday / Thursday Thrill a 2-day event (most importantly the ST)? For a trial period at least?
10-08-2015 , 09:04 AM
mini 1ks!!
10-08-2015 , 09:35 AM
Luke, is there any chance for us to see big 215 in the lobby this year? Bryan told us we could expect to see it after SCOOP. Can you please tell us why it is taking so long time?

You should also turn one of the 215 turbos into Hot 215.
10-08-2015 , 09:47 AM
ppl still want carnival though ;-)
10-08-2015 , 10:13 AM
The 11r action hour 21.00 CET is really worthless now so I think it would be better to remove it and move the 11r 22.00 one hour earlier, at the moment it is starting to late for most recs to play it, especially when it has so low GTD
10-08-2015 , 11:02 AM
Bring back $265 KO, put the $215 PSKO elsewhere
10-08-2015 , 11:17 AM
As a result of your feedback, we're considering moving the Saturday SKO to 14:00 and The Weekender to 11:30. This would put the Saturday SKO one hour away from the Big $109 and into the current "major" slot on Saturdays.[/QUOTE]

sounds good.
10-08-2015 , 11:21 AM
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Originally Posted by PokerStars Luke
Very true. Many of the high stakes players seem to ignore the fact that casual players (or enthusiasts) are extremely important to build prize pools and guarantees in these tournaments.

This is extremely subjective. The Saturday SKO is an immensely popular tournament among casual players. This is evidenced by the popularity of its satellites and week-to-week participation.

This is also subjective thinking. The Saturday SKO has much, much higher participation in both satellites and the event itself.

As a result of your feedback, we're considering moving the Saturday SKO to 14:00 and The Weekender to 11:30. This would put the Saturday SKO one hour away from the Big $109 and into the current "major" slot on Saturdays.
agree with all of the above. jdpc is somewhat irealistic in his demands, i think, but stars is also being really rigid at the same time with the schedule. i think somewhere in between would hit the spot. saturdays / tuesdays / thursday can def support more action.

saturdays would have a way better flow with the weekender starting later with a bigger latereg and the SKO also pushed back an hour. also consider improving weekender`s structure and make it really deep, thats the whole point of it being a 2-dayer.

can you also respond to why stars can`t add anymore reds, and why a daily red special ( thinking old 50r timeslot ) wouldn`t work? i feel like there is room for it, not sure if there is room for the satties, but you should be able to make it happen.
10-08-2015 , 11:22 AM
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Originally Posted by Alexo
Bring back $265 KO, put the $215 PSKO elsewhere
+1
10-08-2015 , 12:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Alexo
Bring back $265 KO, put the $215 PSKO elsewhere
+1

Put the psko somewhere after the b162
10-08-2015 , 12:07 PM
+1 if it's possible
10-08-2015 , 12:22 PM
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Originally Posted by PokerStars Luke

As a result of your feedback, we're considering moving the Saturday SKO to 14:00 and The Weekender to 11:30. This would put the Saturday SKO one hour away from the Big $109 and into the current "major" slot on Saturdays.
Yes, please! I'd really like to see this happen right away starting this saturday

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Originally Posted by rounder63
mini 1ks!!
this!!! I d put them 1h-2h after the main events as a 2nd chance. 109$/$215

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Originally Posted by Alexo
Bring back $265 KO, put the $215 PSKO elsewhere
after big162 one time ? There really is NOTHING to look for after b162 at the moment, no decent regspeed red FO :-/ Put the 215$PSKO here bring back 265$KO??????
10-08-2015 , 12:58 PM
They could add a $215 PSKO after the Big 162 and not even change the one in the morning. That far apart on the schedule has a small rec player pool overlap.
10-08-2015 , 01:27 PM
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Originally Posted by straykatbluz
+1

Put the psko somewhere after the b162
yup. +1. or make old 265ko the big215, make psko later. really disappointing we get a 215 psko before the b215 we've rallied for and been promised for a long time

also please dont remove the 320 sko on saturday as someone suggested :/. new time seems great

also ko week is cool and all. but youve had better post wcoop promotions. bring back the carnival. bring back wcoop challenge

Last edited by The Lipo Fund; 10-08-2015 at 01:32 PM.
10-08-2015 , 02:30 PM
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Originally Posted by The Lipo Fund
yup. +1. or make old 265ko the big215, make psko later. really disappointing we get a 215 psko before the b215 we've rallied for and been promised for a long time

also please dont remove the 320 sko on saturday as someone suggested :/. new time seems great

also ko week is cool and all. but youve had better post wcoop promotions. bring back the carnival. bring back wcoop challenge
Agreed with everything.

Also your excuse for having only nlhe events for ko week was a bit weak.
10-08-2015 , 02:57 PM
change 215 psko to big 215 sounds good to me, not really that excited to have a psko so early in most peoples sessions since it limits reasonable latereg
10-08-2015 , 03:10 PM
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Originally Posted by ignorant0
agree with all of the above. jdpc is somewhat irealistic in his demands, i think, but stars is also being really rigid at the same time with the schedule. i think somewhere in between would hit the spot. saturdays / tuesdays / thursday can def support more action.

saturdays would have a way better flow with the weekender starting later with a bigger latereg and the SKO also pushed back an hour. also consider improving weekender`s structure and make it really deep, thats the whole point of it being a 2-dayer.

can you also respond to why stars can`t add anymore reds, and why a daily red special ( thinking old 50r timeslot ) wouldn`t work? i feel like there is room for it, not sure if there is room for the satties, but you should be able to make it happen.
yeah i originally had hoped the weekender would be a huge super long two day tournament where gtd approached 500k...
10-08-2015 , 04:02 PM
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Originally Posted by PokerStars Luke
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MicroMillions
Spoiler:
MicroMillions is taking a break. Common Cents is intended as a semi-replacement. I do not yet know what the future is for MicroMillions.

by far the worst tournament's schedule decision you've made in a long time
10-08-2015 , 05:00 PM
i dont even really play the MM series, but its so good for the site and players as a whole. why would you be uncertain about the future? what dont we get? generally curious here
10-08-2015 , 05:03 PM
MM was my favorite series as a lowstakes recreational mixgame player, only time when the odd games runs in MTTs. Why o why ?
10-08-2015 , 05:28 PM
Going to make a guess that the MM series is all about engaging players and getting them to make deposits. I would guess they realized they didn't need to run it every 3 months. I'm sure they have ways to track player deposits and effectiveness of tournaments and promotions.

Common Cents is on a similar vein, except for even smaller levels. It's obvious that Common Cents is not popular for the people who use 2p2 and post here, but the field sizes have been massive. How many of those players are converted play money accounts or players who've been watching on twitch but didn't want to step into the water for much money? To catch a fish you first need to hook them. Pokerstars isn't running promotional series without reason.

      
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