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10-12-2015 , 10:31 AM
9.30 16.50 8max could be 90 mins late reg

thnx for extending those other ones , much better
10-12-2015 , 11:06 AM
bring back Big Ante 1$R with improved structure / gtd
10-12-2015 , 12:40 PM
bring back 90 min registration to 3x Turbo MTTs..
+++more 90 min Lateregs
10-12-2015 , 01:12 PM
Sad to see this tourney go overlay thanks to Bubble Effect.



Please have a look at daily 27 schedule, stud, badugi, 2-7sd are struggling at this time slot, move them later maybe
10-12-2015 , 01:26 PM
I agree with the time slot issues. A bunch of these players play all games and having them run in time slots that obviously aren't highly supported doesn't do them much good.
10-12-2015 , 02:03 PM
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Originally Posted by DoGGz
None are in the lobby right now.
oh ic, do you happen to know when is it expected for the mega satties? previous years i believe were $700 for full package with 50 GTD, im guessing it wouldnt be the same having the main event slashed in half in terms of buy in
10-12-2015 , 02:16 PM
Oh, THAT sized mega. I don't know, but we obviously can expect it. The package is still something absurd like $10k+ 'value' because of how overpriced the Atlantis is, so I'd bet it still is a $700 tournament.
10-12-2015 , 02:33 PM
I think a mega satty with 3 seats gtd is possible at some point
10-12-2015 , 04:52 PM
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Originally Posted by mashxx
I think a mega satty with 3 seats gtd is possible at some point
yes but as a recreational player I am, i prefer those bigger ones, anyone from stars can chime in?
10-12-2015 , 07:40 PM
Luke

Once again it's been proved that once you put a nice promo (like this KO week) hundreds of players log in again and come back to play MTTs.

Look at today:

No promo = Slow Monday

Big Promo = Big Monday

Simple as that. Hope you continue with weeks like this, which prove that there is still a big player base for MTTs as long as you offer players something juicy to play.
10-12-2015 , 08:41 PM
luke, we need sats for the knockouts!
10-13-2015 , 06:00 AM
really like the extended blind levels at later stages in some tournaments (like $11 4k 8max) but what is the concept behind this as i dont get it why there is tournamnets with extended blind levels and why there is tournaments with the regular blind levels the whole time. i think it is a really nice addition and all tournement should use it. it would make regular speed tournaments does not look like a turbo tournament from last three tables.

even the $4.40 8max which starts at the same time as $11 8max isnt have extended blind levels. looks like there is no concept behind it so let me tell you all regspeed tournaments need this addition!
10-13-2015 , 11:03 AM
Current $27 Daily Offering time(ET) slot:

Code:
09:15 Badugi         Struggling at current slot
10:15 Razz
11:15 Stud           Struggling
11:45 NL 2-7SD       Struggling
12:45 PL 5 Card Draw
13:15 8 Game
14:15 Limit Holdem
15:15 FL 2-7TD
16:15 Horse
17:15 Limit Stud H/L
18:15 FL Omaha H/L
Suggestion for new $27 Daily time slot:

Code:
10:15 Razz
12:15 Badugi
12:45 PL 5 Card Draw
13:15 8 Game
13:45 NL 2-7SD
14:15 Limit Holdem
14:45 Stud
15:15 FL 2-7TD
16:15 Horse
17:15 Limit Stud H/L
18:15 FL Omaha H/L
  • $3.85 deep sats run 45 mins prior to Daily $27, have them run 60 mins prior
  • Also move back $82 Weekly Badugi, stud, nl 2-7sd so they run 45 mins after Daily 27 as currently scheduled
  • Hyper sats to Daily 27 for some reason runs only on Mondays, please make them run everyday

This was suggested long back, also we suggested you to have a look at nl 2-7sd structure - lots of level missing, can you please have a look?
10-13-2015 , 11:44 AM
love the KO week sched and field sizes... def need to utilize the power of this more... even if you did a featured daily KO special tourney or something 1-3 times day or had a KO day once per week (on mon, wed or fri), or ko week once per month
10-13-2015 , 12:38 PM
Anuj, I don't know if putting all the non-holdem games together is the best solution. These games are difficult to multitable and if an avg player is able to play 2 of these games at once and there'a 3 to choose from, you end up having less overall participation.

I've always been an advocate of having a 24 hr schedule that caters to the entire player pool. There's currently a 12 hr gap where players don't have a red $27 non-hold em tournament, that's just not right.

Imo, Pokerstars should expect a PLO player from Europe to play every single PLO MTT on the daily schedule and should spread out the games.

There are times when I wake up earlier than normal and want to play some MTTS, but there just isn't any games on.
10-13-2015 , 01:32 PM
This is really amazing how Guarantees Boost and KO promos matters in terms of tournament participation these days.

Just take a look at Boosted low-stakes MTTs (btw, thanks for the increase):

08:45 ET - $2.20+R - boosted up to $2.5k - had $3.6k prize pool yesterday - $3.9k today
10:15 ET - $5.50 DeepStacks - boosted to $3k - had $4.4k - has $4k now
10:45 ET - $4.40 8-max - boosted to $2k - had $3k - has $3k
11:45 ET - $5.50 - boosted to $2.5k - had $3.5k - has $3.9k

We have not seen such performance here for years.

Luke,

Just think about it, how amazingly your own players denies your whole idea of them.

How can you say - "guarantees dont that matter, we cant force players to play certain tournaments, their motivation to grind is weak and inert, red tournaments will cannibalize regular schedule and we should replace it with the new offering instead of just adding new juicy bigs/hots/kos/promos etc".
Basically, every single statement is untrue - and population really proves quite opposite.

Just look at the following:
07:45 $4.40 8-max
09:30 $2.20+R
10:30 $2.20+R
10:45 $11 8-max

They are litterally screaming for help and boost, beating guarantees for $1k more second day in a row.

Don't you agree, this is a perfect opportunity to improve our whole low-stakes schedule? Just do it, Luke, boost them all, let them grow and bloom at least for this week, and see how they will strengthen even more. Let's try, huh?

Eventually, you may shrink them back, but cmon, give them a new breath by now, please!
10-13-2015 , 01:40 PM
i get a weird stars bug a lot recently. lmk if this happens to anyone else:

i'm unable to use my mouse to select new tournaments. the cursor is stuck where its at, so im unable to reg/choose new games unless i close stars (mid session), and open it back up. has happened 4-5 times since wcoop
10-13-2015 , 01:49 PM
Have had that bug (or whatever it is) as well quite strange, i guess 2 or 3 times in the past, also before wcoop. U can still use arrow keys on the keyboard tho
10-13-2015 , 01:55 PM
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Originally Posted by broken_jia
Anuj, I don't know if putting all the non-holdem games together is the best solution. These games are difficult to multitable and if an avg player is able to play 2 of these games at once and there'a 3 to choose from, you end up having less overall participation.

I've always been an advocate of having a 24 hr schedule that caters to the entire player pool. There's currently a 12 hr gap where players don't have a red $27 non-hold em tournament, that's just not right.

Imo, Pokerstars should expect a PLO player from Europe to play every single PLO MTT on the daily schedule and should spread out the games.

There are times when I wake up earlier than normal and want to play some MTTS, but there just isn't any games on.
Agree with you. But if you look at the schedule of daily 27, all are doing okay except for badugi, stud, nl 2-7sd, so I asked Luke to move them back 2-3 hrs later and rest of the schedule unchanged. Obviously it would have been better if they were more spread out for the reason you posted but will these mixed games do better at pacific time zone - 8 game, Horse, omaha h/l may be but not sure about other variants. Maybe they could add daily $7.50 as once Bryan suggested
Quote:
Originally Posted by BryanS-PS
$27 is a nice bridge buy-in between the small stakes and $82, and if it runs at the same time as the Weekly version, well that just makes sense. Perhaps we could also run a $7.50 version... we'll see.
Lets see what Luke have to say about the scheduling of daily 27
10-13-2015 , 01:56 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by thefist87
Have had that bug (or whatever it is) as well quite strange, i guess 2 or 3 times in the past, also before wcoop. U can still use arrow keys on the keyboard tho
my arrow keys are assigned to hotkeys. my down is call, and it ****ed me up really bad one time :/
10-13-2015 , 01:56 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by The Lipo Fund
i get a weird stars bug a lot recently. lmk if this happens to anyone else:

i'm unable to use my mouse to select new tournaments. the cursor is stuck where its at, so im unable to reg/choose new games unless i close stars (mid session), and open it back up. has happened 4-5 times since wcoop
Quote:
Originally Posted by thefist87
Have had that bug (or whatever it is) as well quite strange, i guess 2 or 3 times in the past, also before wcoop. U can still use arrow keys on the keyboard tho
Posted in software improvement thread

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/28...l#post48366513
10-13-2015 , 02:15 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by anuj22
Posted in software improvement thread

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/28...l#post48366513
if there was only a mod to do it properly
10-13-2015 , 02:47 PM
Turbo Ultra Stack is one of the worst structures I've ever played.

Also knockout tournaments with 400bb is just dumb. Knockouts should start with max 200bb.
10-13-2015 , 03:14 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by getmeoffcompletely
Turbo Ultra Stack is one of the worst structures I've ever played.

Also knockout tournaments with 400bb is just dumb. Knockouts should start with max 200bb.
its pretty lool... but even more amazing people are still rippping aipf loool
10-13-2015 , 04:27 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by anuj22
Agree with you. But if you look at the schedule of daily 27, all are doing okay except for badugi, stud, nl 2-7sd, so I asked Luke to move them back 2-3 hrs later and rest of the schedule unchanged. Obviously it would have been better if they were more spread out for the reason you posted but will these mixed games do better at pacific time zone - 8 game, Horse, omaha h/l may be but not sure about other variants. Maybe they could add daily $7.50 as once Bryan suggested


Lets see what Luke have to say about the scheduling of daily 27
Agreed, the player pool for HORSE, FLO8, 8 game and Razz are the largest among the $27s, so they will probably do well regardless of time slot. 2-7 triple draw, PL 5 card draw and Stud 8 are probably in the next tier and NL2-7, Badugi and Stud Hi are probably in the bottIom tier.

The bottom tier games need to be scheduled based on when the majority of the demand is so that they have the highest % of running.

I think it would make sense to put horse or 8 game in an earlier timezone (I.e 3:05) and put one of the bottom tier games in there to maximize # of games that run (and amount of rake stars generates).

Don't think $7.50s are a good idea atm. It will segregate the player pool and increase the chances of a $27 Badugi from running. Many players will play just one tournament, and if they can play for $7.50, they'll just skip the $27, assuming they start around the same time.

      
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