would have my vote ^ lots of for the ultradeep format

Did I miss the apocalypse or something? I want to satellite into the milly but there isn't one person registered in any of the satellites?! What the hell is going on?

this is the biggest misbelief in this thread...the demand is there.

but hs players are like a bunch of spoiled kids. most of us have established ourselves over the years and have a decent bankroll. the reason you only see us for a few hours on tuesday is cuz it takes something like the super tuesday to get our attention.

tbh, i'd rather masturbate with sandpaper than play on a monday wed or friday in the current environment and adding one super tournametn to that schedule would at its best just catch my attention for a few hours like the suepr tue and the thrill do...i would late reg the schedule like everyone else does and play for those few hours..if i'm crushign the super tue/thrill than i add more birds..if not, i stop regging..

also most hs players have gotten used to playing 3-4 days a week and having 3-4 days off...you are unlikely to modify that behavoir nor is it probably wise for the health of that person or the ecosystem. the idea that the tournament schedule ahs to be good everyday is just silly. tourney schedule should reflect this and be big and juicy on the on days and smaller and softer on the off days.

what i have given you is a gameplan for getting hs players back to the plate for an entire session. if you build out tuesdays and thursdays and make them like mini sundays, they will crush. period.

you guys misintrepret people not showing up on a daily basis and equate it with there not being the demand or the playerbase. but its pretty simple actually. demand and playerbase is there. but simply stated, most regs would rather take the day offf and go to the beach, the movies, out to eat, the park, watch sports then bash heads against a bunch of other regs playign for a first prize of 4-6k only if we win the whole thing battling our way thru a bunch of sickos and variance. we simply won't do it anymore...most of us don't have too.

but to say demand and playerbase is not there is just naive. this wcoop was the richest and most successful in stars history. every time they throw up a special week or weekend promotion it absolutely crushes. people just want to play for money that changes at least their week to month and if things go really well changes their year to the rest of their life. nobody cares about winning a sum of money that they are just going to take and throw right back into the fire tomorrow.

demand is definitely there. and after being in this game for over 10 years and playing as much volume as i have both online and live the entire time, i have a pretty good pulse on the hs community. my views and opinions are shared by most of them. only thing we would debate about imo is what types of tournaments we should add and when to add them

i think its funny that people come in here repeatedly and give their honest feelings on things and people just brush them aside with blanket statements like "demand" and "playerbase" is not there with no evidence to support those statements.

fwiw, thats waht they said when we asked for another hs tournament on the schedule..that the demand wasn't there..that the super tuesday would suffer..blah blah blah...had to beg for months and months in this thread to finally get the thrill, and now ask if any of you could live with it NOT being on the schedule.

i provide as my evidence all the tournaments 888 has added to tuesdays and thursdays and how well they are doing..all because they obv pay attention to this thread and see us screaming for more on tue and thur.

i also present how successful thrill has been. also everytime i talk to other hs players, they say they would love to play more online, but not much to keep their interest.

stars best chance at rejuvenating the tournament scene is to build the hell out of tuesdays and thursdays. if they do so, those days will crush like sundays. to assume the demand isn't there or that there would be a bunch of overlays without even testing the waters and with nothign to support such arguements is just silly. the wcoop special challenge weekends..double vision, double gtd week, wcoop, scoop, all paint a much different picture.

Remember that the Thrill wasn't an idea championed by a HS pro who posted for it on 2p2.

That one tournament that wasn't asked for was created by Stars and completely captivated their audience. Give them some credit sometimes. They know more about their players than most of us give them credit for.

completely not true. and it wasn't just one person. several people championed for stars to add another high stakes 700-1k tournament to the schedule. this went on for quite some time with the feedback at first being that the schedule couldn't support another high buyin tournament, cannabilization etc..eventually stars was convinced either by this thread, its own data, or w/e to give it a try.

now stars came up with the specific idea of making it a progressive and putting half in prizepool, half in ko pool and calling it the thursday thrill.. but people championed for something on par with the super tue for quite some time before they added the thrill and i'm not sure without that championing that the thrill ever would have found its way to the schedule.

the only thing i take credit for is the weekender being a 2 day tournament which was another tournament created based on feedback and requests in this thread.

and i'm not here to give stars credit or pat them on the back..i am here to make the online tournament experience better. and its hard to give stars a bunch of credit when it is your belief that some of the problems the tournament community has and the pains they are going through have partially been caused by the way the online tournament schedule has been run and managed. in the past, this would slip thru the cracks more as there were 3 or 4 other sites to keep enough tables on our screen where we weren't scrutinizing every little detail of the schedule, its management, etc..now that stars is pretty much the only game in town, not only will they be under the microscope but the decisions they make have more reach and impact than ever.

And this is the entire problem with your position. Maybe Pokerstars doesn't want jdpc playing more tournaments and withdrawing money from depositing players. Maybe they are happy that you are winning and withdrawing less money than you would if you played more.

In fact, your argument about getting the HS regs to play more is probably works against you... unless it also brings in new deposits and stimulates rec interest.

Because that's what Pokerstars wants. They definitely want tournaments that captivate their players and get them excited and get them depositing. They want you and the recs at your level to play on days and at times where you might not have.

This is part of the reason we don't have the Million during the WCOOP. Its part of the reason we aren't likely to get a $109 Thrill near the $1050 Thursday Thrill. It's part of the reason the Weekender is early and not later in the day when the Sat $320 SKO starts.

It takes time and satellites and promotion to make tournaments like that run. They can't just dump them all on top of each other and have the effect they they have now.

If you are looking for schedule additions it really needs to pass that muster. If it doesn't you are going to just end up here in a few months with another long monologue hoping for changes that never come.

And I won't leave you without another suggestion. How about The Tuesday Progressive Mega KO $215 and The Thursday $215 Ultra Deep. Run them at 11:00et, early enough to entice players on at the start of the day, a bit different so they are special, but not something that will overshadow the major offering of the day. It also follows the theme of offering once a week $215 tournaments in different games and formats.

among hs tournaments, its all about the reg playerbase...there isn't a true recreational playerbase just regularly donking around. the day you truly turn your back on the hs playerbase is the day you should just shutdown the entire hs schedule outside of sundays and wcoops where the offerings are enough to entice both the occasional recreational player and the reg.

my suggestions while they may serve my self interest they benefit both regs and recs. adding a full slate of tournaments will get a reg to fire an entire day of touranments. putting pretty colors on them, pretty names, and pretty guarantees on them attract the recs. providing a good satelitte system to get into them gives the rec a chance to change their life for little. this is what both recs and regs are chasing...changing their life.

even if i was a purely recreational player with a lot of money and didn't care, there is little on most days to keep me interested or to get me to deposit any money on. no one either rec or reg wants to grind it up from nothing like it used to be done back in the days because its so much harder to do today..everyone wants a bink..they wanna bink off a bankroll or life changing score...the "grind" as we used to know it is pretty much dead...stars has an opportunity to respond to this before its too late.

also...i'm getting a little oi of this association that regs are all winning players. plain and simple..most "regs" suck. they are simply decent enough at the game to not get wiped out..but i would not classify a lot of them as big winners...they do just good enough at the game to make it work with rakeback, vpps, fpp's, and the occasional bink. most of these guys are just passing money around and paying rake to stars like a hot potato. stars should do everything they can to keep these player engaged on the site for as long as possible on days that these players deccide to play.

there is nothing to support that building out tue/thur would not be hugely successful and sustainable. the only way that stars can control me and others like me is to make a day sick..then we are too degen to pass it up..but thinking that you will get me to play on ****ty days because i have no other choice is bad thinking...i'll just take that day off and go get blazed on the beach.

as it stands now..me and many others like me both winners and loser regs only play tuesdays sundays, then half day thursdays saturdays.....never play mon, wed, fri...and i'm losing interest on tuesdays and thursdays... my arguement is simple..trying to get me back on a mon, wed, fri much more difficult. however, there is super low hanging fruit here

you already have my attention and hundreds to thousands more on tuesdays and thursdays...throw some more stuff up there and you can have my attention for 12 hours on tue and 12 on thur intead of the 3-5 you get now.

even if we disagree on things I enjoy your passion m8.

hopefully good things to come this fall and winter.

btw i like these ideas.. :

How about The Tuesday Progressive Mega KO $215 and The Thursday $215 Ultra Deep. Run them at 11:00et,

.com are so behind the times compared to.fr , they only just started awarding tickets within the prize pools , winamax / .fr have done this for 6 + months.
It's a good way of making target events soft and forcing people to play selected days.
Hopefully they follow suit with satty packages like you mentioned above

+1

have played my personal biggest ever online tournament on .fr, might play there for 2 years now compared to ~6 on .com

all just because I binked a tourney that payed a main ticket to top 3 or w/e

Nit.

can you please make thos esatelites or sth so that they can be filtered out? rly annoying and cant get rid of them

Agreed with everything jdpc has said.

jdpc repping teh HS clan, lego

Doggz, your point about Stars doesn't want JDPC and others playing because they take money from mid/low stakes players is somewhat incorrect, since because there isn't more HS tournaments, they play mid/low tournaments that they wouldn't if there was more to keep their interest. So, this affects the ROI of those low/mid players in those tournaments.

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New Sunday Major:

The Escal8tor!

($320, ultradeep, antes from start, starts at 5min blinds, ends at 30min blinds for FT, 8 max)

Start it at the kickoff, give it 4 hour late reg, and a really slow structure. It should aim to finish at same time as Milly/Etc.

Slap a 50k gtd on it to start, give it some advertising in the client and a pretty satty on saturday at same time as the speedway (33$ gives tickets, 10 seat gtd), and watch it grow.

I also think it is in Stars best interest to find ways to build more FO satties that give tickets instead of t$ and that start at either 5% or 10% of the target.

yer that'd ravage

thats waaaaay too long if you don`t want it to be a regfest

otherwise cool idea

hey what about those 75% PSKOs it was very successfull as i seen. why not bring one to the client daily, not need to be part of the regular schedule

great common cents promotion, just something to help me play more

SIGH, had typed up a huge reply +1ing most of jdpc's suggestions. cliffs: build it and they (hsmtt regs AND recs) will come. just look at the huge huge growth of truly hsmtts on the EPT over the last few seasons. NeilJ heard our demands for more big buyin events and those tournaments have been massively successful. I am positive that if you looked at the online activity of the recreation players who play all the €2k+ EPT events you would see they almost never log into pokerstars on non-scoop/wcoop/sunday/tuesday days because the schedule is so boring.

the knockout week promo looks great