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11-10-2013 , 10:09 AM
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Originally Posted by Lamboro
Why is SngSolver and ICMIZER better than SNGWiz?
Way more limited options, ranges are semi ****ed up, simply not accurate in spots

Example from a post I made the other day
http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...39&postcount=4


'-Wiz is outdated in that it's ranges in many spots are poor and sometimes it's just plain wrong. I remember making a post in my pg&c about that one time, I ran a 15/30/3 spot where i was on the btn looking for a shove range into the blinds, and I ran the spot in 3 icm calcs (icmizer, sngwizard and the holdemresources.net calculator) and I changed the SB and BB calling % to be exactly the same in all 3 calculators and sng wiz's shoving range it suggested was MUCH different than the other 2; icmizer and holdemresources were like 33.3% and 33.6% iirc, while wiz suggested ~50% :O :O

Solver and Icmizer are definitely much better programs with much better features once you learn how to use them'
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11-10-2013 , 10:45 AM
Main difference "free configurable ranges vs situationally pre-ranked ones" (I guess this is still the case for current wiz version?) makes those programs superior alone. Different ppl value diff hands differently in their minds, if you can't reflect this within studies, you're missing an important part of the game.
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11-10-2013 , 03:51 PM
Hey, I just moved from 45s to 18s and I wanted to ask - what's the best way to put decent volume in these? I mean, there's no breaks, so I can't keep registering every time I bust from one. I can multitable 10-12 tables, but I need break every now and then. And if I stop registering for new ones, I feel like I'm burning money cause there is no enough open tables. Like I have to plan 30-40min ahead.
I hope this is the right place were to ask smth like this.
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11-10-2013 , 05:07 PM
Even if it grosses you out...you might want to consider the pee bottle (or a laptop you can run to the bathroom with )

Otherwise just do your sessions and take break every 2-3 hours. Hyper turbos or firing up some cash tables for a bit if a good way to fill in the beginning/end of sessions. Should be easy enough to get a bunch of 18s goin fairly quickly though
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11-10-2013 , 05:17 PM
I knew someone will suggest a pee bottle
but yeah, beginnings is not the problem, end of sessions is, I'l try some STT hypers or maybe Zoom can be good option. Thanks
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11-10-2013 , 05:41 PM
Pee bottle is nothing to be laughed at, it's a really good tool and has helped me play 6+ hour sessions of stts with no breaks.

But yea, adding other games like hypers or zoom to jumpstart or help end sessions is definitely another great thing to do
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11-10-2013 , 06:03 PM
Just wanna +1 this "Pee bottle is nothing to be laughed at"

If you sit down and think about this...you're saving yourself A LOT of time and making a little extra money (I think there's value in being in a session/being in a flow and staying in it vs starting/stopping multiple times a day)
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11-11-2013 , 02:41 AM
Beginner question here:

Does the VPIP/PFR stats on a HUD take into account hands played once you are short handed or heads up?

For example lets say I'm in 2 SNGs with Villain A and Villian B. Villian A is eliminate in 9th place in both, and since he played very few hands when it was 9-handed, he has a low VPIP. However I make it to heads up against Villain B both times, and his VPIP stat goes way up because he's playing every button heads up.

Therefore, will Villain B's VPIP and PFR stats be way higher than Villain A next time I play with them since I only have 9handed data on Villain A, but shorthand+heads up data on Villain B - and isn't there then a risk you could mistake Villain B for a LAG next time you play him if you forget you have hands head up against him?
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11-11-2013 , 03:51 AM
lol @ pee bottle. I use a 10 liter bucket ^^
Seriously, there's nothing I potentially wanna use during a session which is not somewhere at the desk.

@ddx19: You can configure that freely (at least for HEM/PT I know that) and the standard is unfiltered. As you mentioned it's obv bad to have high blind HU stats mixed with 9 handed deep stacks, so filtering in some way is helpful. Trade-Off between losing some info from other filters vs more specific info, just try around with what seems to make sense.

Last edited by LeaksSuck; 11-11-2013 at 04:03 AM.
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11-11-2013 , 12:48 PM
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Originally Posted by jdawg91
Way more limited options, ranges are semi ****ed up, simply not accurate in spots

Example from a post I made the other day
http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...39&postcount=4


'-Wiz is outdated in that it's ranges in many spots are poor and sometimes it's just plain wrong. I remember making a post in my pg&c about that one time, I ran a 15/30/3 spot where i was on the btn looking for a shove range into the blinds, and I ran the spot in 3 icm calcs (icmizer, sngwizard and the holdemresources.net calculator) and I changed the SB and BB calling % to be exactly the same in all 3 calculators and sng wiz's shoving range it suggested was MUCH different than the other 2; icmizer and holdemresources were like 33.3% and 33.6% iirc, while wiz suggested ~50% :O :O

Solver and Icmizer are definitely much better programs with much better features once you learn how to use them'
Why do use you both Sngsolver and Icmizer?

Which one would you recommend for a micro hyper 6-max player?

Does SngSolver support Restolen spots? (when you raise first and face a resteal)

Do you need internet connection to use Icmizer?
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11-11-2013 , 04:43 PM
-both have different good and bad things about it, look into the programs and find out yourself
-solver is great at shortstack spots with the built in PSM, icmizer is good at deeper stack spots and lookingat different things like resteals, fold to 3bs etc
-no
-i think so but not sure
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11-12-2013 , 07:40 PM
I had a bad run at Omaha, I'm thinking of switching back to 6 max hypers for a while.
What software are people using these days to keep table count up?
I use to use Table Ninja, is that still the program to use these days?
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11-12-2013 , 08:51 PM
Sorry bout that, posted in wrong thread.
Do some of you guys still use TN 1? I think I'd only need TN these days for the SnG sensei. Stars built in hotkeys are pretty solid.
Can anyone tell me their experience with SnG Sensei on TN2, is it worth the upgrade?
I remember TN1 sensei being pretty buggy, sometimes u'd start a session telling it to keep up 12 tables, and an hour later, it would only be keeping 9 up...but the program would be telling you 12 is up.
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11-12-2013 , 10:17 PM
Answered pokernubz on skype, if anyone has anything to add about how they grind, it would be welcome
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11-12-2013 , 11:45 PM


Does this look good, for massive multi tabling hypers.
I got a table counter, thx to jdawg, and I'm registering by hand.

I don't really know wtf "no autmated unregistering for Sit & Go tournaments" means.

I also, hate that when u register, a box comes up that says. "Registered for tournament" and you have to click ok.. guess it's a must though.
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11-13-2013 , 04:25 AM
Table Ninja can auto-check any "one-box-windows".
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11-13-2013 , 07:59 PM
Thx everyone so far for the help.

Is this a good thread, to talk about important HuD stats, where we can discuss integration of stats into our huds?

HM2, has these stats, Stack size, 1-3bb, 4-6bb, 7-9bb.
I think they'd be very useful for late game, reads on the sb, the thing I'm confused about is, what about 3.5bb 3.25bb 6.45bb stacks, ect.

I know theres a search function and I've read a few hud threads already today, but half the hud threads just say.. "this had be explained before" use the search thread. lol.

I like to use a min sample, of 2. What do you prefer?
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11-14-2013 , 06:34 AM
I cant see any NL 6max hyper turbo with buy-in less than $7 in pokerstars. Anybody else experience the same problem?
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11-14-2013 , 06:45 AM
Nah, works fine.



Reset connection & reboot likely to solve
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11-14-2013 , 10:06 AM
Are there any good threads on 6 max hypers? Tried searching but most of them either are HU or PGC threads.
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11-14-2013 , 08:35 PM
If you had to guess, what times is it best to grind low stakes hypers? (3.50's)
What is an attainable roi, at prime time, vs non prime time? (for 3.50's)

STT, seems fairly dead, compared to last time I was active here, do people avoid strategy talk these days?
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11-14-2013 , 10:50 PM
Nash seems fairly aggressive for me, at least for the 15/30 stages.

I think I'm either passing up too many slightly +EV situations, or I'm raise/folding too often. Is this common for players struggling in the lower hypers? Most open shove ranges, seem reckless to me.
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11-15-2013 , 11:43 AM
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Originally Posted by Tarkyo
Are there any good threads on 6 max hypers? Tried searching but most of them either are HU or PGC threads.
It's hard to find 6m ht strategy these days from any decent players as pretty much all us midstake+ sole 6m ht regs don't post or talk much strat publicly, there was recently a thread here in STTF that had some of those players divulging bits and pieces of info, that thread is here:
http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/36...ategy-1386224/

Bernardc's well thread he just did for a few days also has some good info in it: http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/36...-well-1378992/

Ruse also made a drunken 'well' one night and ended up posting some alright info, I don't remember how much 6m hyper strat was posted in there, but linking it because he plays mostly 6m hts these days: http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/36...-well-1333212/


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Originally Posted by Pokernubz
If you had to guess, what times is it best to grind low stakes hypers? (3.50's)
What is an attainable roi, at prime time, vs non prime time? (for 3.50's)

STT, seems fairly dead, compared to last time I was active here, do people avoid strategy talk these days?
Offpeak has to be better than peak, just because there should be less regs on playing and a ton of traffic still available at those stakes, but I don't play that low so don't know for sure obviously. Think a 5-6% roi should be doable at the 3.50s

And yea, as I said above, hard to find any public strat from any decent midstake+ regs.

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Originally Posted by Pokernubz
Nash seems fairly aggressive for me, at least for the 15/30 stages.

I think I'm either passing up too many slightly +EV situations, or I'm raise/folding too often. Is this common for players struggling in the lower hypers? Most open shove ranges, seem reckless to me.
They are, all I'll say is you shouldn't be open shoving the majority of your range at T30
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11-17-2013 , 07:25 PM
Thanks!
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11-17-2013 , 10:25 PM
Just started playing the hypers and it's crazy how much you can pick up after playing a few hundred games.

At first the games seemed reg filled but over time you see these 'regs' just turn into pure spew and get it in and call all in's way too wide. I'm at the $7 level playing 9m's as i heard they offer slightly more ROI and since the VPP/FPP return at this limit is quite low i went for the higher ROI option.

When do these 'regs' turn into a more solid game? Around the $30 level?
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