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03-20-2011 , 04:19 AM
I have Question about 2 specific sng books :

I want to buy 2 books from amazon :
-Collin Moshman's Sit 'n Go Strategy book and
-Kill Everyone: Advanced Strategies for No-Limit Hold 'Em .

-Collin's book released in 2007 .
-Kill Everyone released in 2009 .( The Revised and Expanded Edition )

The question is : Are this book good and suits for today's sng's games online? Is the strategy in this books good enough for today's online STT's? Or maybe the games ( and the strategy to beat 'em) changes since 2007?

Kill Everyone is Revised and Expanded Edition but its a book that also written in 2007 .

Thanks for reading and posting
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03-23-2011 , 02:31 PM
I remember seeing a good layout for BRM in a link on here not too long ago but can't find it anymore. It listed all different SnGs from STTs to 180s. does anyone have a link for this? thanks
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03-23-2011 , 04:41 PM
Does anyone know is there a trainingsite that doesn't require credit card number for the free trial?

Thanks.
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03-24-2011 , 12:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Maniacal
I remember seeing a good layout for BRM in a link on here not too long ago but can't find it anymore. It listed all different SnGs from STTs to 180s. does anyone have a link for this? thanks
Probably you are talking about that one:

http://www.pocketfives.com/blogs/jennifear/
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03-24-2011 , 01:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Lythande71
Probably you are talking about that one:

http://www.pocketfives.com/blogs/jennifear/
awesome. thanks!
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03-25-2011 , 02:29 AM
When playing an 9man SNG are there any situations preflop which justifies calling (after the rise, I never limp) rather then 3betting ? When playing cash games I learned that as a TAG rising / 3betting are always a better choce and when my hand is not good enough to 3bet I shuld dump it.

Also, what would be the correct 3 bet size on early / middle / later stage of the game ?
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03-25-2011 , 08:35 PM
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Originally Posted by NL200
I have Question about 2 specific sng books :

I want to buy 2 books from amazon :
-Collin Moshman's Sit 'n Go Strategy book and
-Kill Everyone: Advanced Strategies for No-Limit Hold 'Em .

-Collin's book released in 2007 .
-Kill Everyone released in 2009 .( The Revised and Expanded Edition )

The question is : Are this book good and suits for today's sng's games online? Is the strategy in this books good enough for today's online STT's? Or maybe the games ( and the strategy to beat 'em) changes since 2007?

Kill Everyone is Revised and Expanded Edition but its a book that also written in 2007 .

Thanks for reading and posting

Yes, Moshman's book would still be a decent guide for beginners. He doesn't give enough detail for it to have gone out of date. It's not perfect but it's useful as a grounding in STTs. The places where it's very flawed will become more obvious as you continue to learn.

The strategies that we use in KE are maths based, so still apply. The stuff about playing aggro players and so on was more or less nonsense back in the day, and that hasn't changed, but that's not why we read it anyhow.


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Originally Posted by Vincen7
When playing an 9man SNG are there any situations preflop which justifies calling (after the rise, I never limp) rather then 3betting ? When playing cash games I learned that as a TAG rising / 3betting are always a better choce and when my hand is not good enough to 3bet I shuld dump it.

Also, what would be the correct 3 bet size on early / middle / later stage of the game ?
It's fair to say you should rarely call. Early, calling a small raise with a pocket pair is standard. Later, there are spots you might call, but they're fairly specific. Post hands where you feel you had the option, and see what people say.

As for threebet size, it really depends. First of all, do you want fold equity? Second, what range do you think villain will call with at different bet sizes? There's no real rule of thumb. Personally, I tend to 3bet 3x the original bet or thereabouts if I'm not just restealing to generate fold equity, but I sometimes bet larger or smaller. Often you need to consider how big the pot will be on the flop. You might sometimes 3bet just enough to set up a flop shove, for example. Again, post hands and see what people say.
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03-26-2011 , 02:52 AM
Hello all i am currently trying a challenge that requires single table tournaments(10 max).
Long story short I start with very little and hope to make it happen and be at the highest competitive stake levels in sngs. First off how do you post hand histories exactly?
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03-26-2011 , 07:31 AM
@Monkey Banana thanks alot for the reply, mate
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03-26-2011 , 12:52 PM
Hi everyone , i'm new to the forum and any advice would be much appreciated. I learned how to play poker 2 years ago but started playing too much too fast and never managed my bankroll and therefore lost alot of money in my first year and a half or so especially in cash games. I lost my job however about 4 months ago and have been forced to put my mind to it and try to start grinding profits from poker. I'm currently playing the $10 full ring sng's at full tilt and my game has improved alot since the turn of the year. I've made about $900 from 250 sng's, a few mtt's, some cash games at the .10\.25c level and rakeback also. My cashgame has improved since i've been grinding sng's a bit more but i try not to play them too much because its too easy for me to tilt and get wreckless so i would like to concentrate mainly on my sng's to make a regular income but it certainly isnt as easy as i thought it might be. I'm averaging 10% roi this year at the $10 level and realise that i have to start increasing volume if i want to make any sort of reasonable income so i just have a few questions to some other players who have made this transition successfully. I'm currently only playing 2 tables at once (3 max) but i know that will have to increase. I also usually have around $200-$250 sitting in my account at once but will be topping that up soon with another few hundred as im expecting a few dollars from a claim.

Here's a few questions then:

1. How fast should i be increasing the amount of tables i'm playing?

2. How many hours do you put in a day grinding sng's?

3. Whats the best hud for sng's?

4. How often do you play cash games if you are a regular sng grinder?

5. What average roi should i be aiming for?

6. How much should i have in my bankroll for this sng level?

Any advice would be very helpful and would like to hear how fast some of you have progressed at this kind of level?
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03-27-2011 , 12:09 AM
I wanted to ask, what max ROI and hourly rate today is possible at regular speed and turbo 9man and 6man sngs? is 15% still possible at 30s and 60s for many people or is that only the top 1%?
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03-27-2011 , 10:05 AM
Came in the top 10 of a battle of planet leaderboard. It's Sunday, and I haven't received my money or my freeroll ticket. When does it normally arrive?
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03-27-2011 , 11:11 AM
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Came in the top 10 of a battle of planet leaderboard. It's Sunday, and I haven't received my money or my freeroll ticket. When does it normally arrive?
Answered by Stars support. Receive on Monday fwiw.
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03-27-2011 , 02:50 PM
Also answered on the BOP faqs page IIRC
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03-27-2011 , 05:28 PM
short question about pokerprolabs:

why do i only get date from january/february? it seems stuck for me. maybe i set something wrong, thats why im asking!
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03-27-2011 , 09:45 PM
^what site do you play on? Sharkscope missed a bunch of games from FT this month, so PPL might be having the same problem.

Yah just checked and the last games they show for me is on march 5, and ive played every day this month. I think FT has been changing their hhs or something that is making it harder for games to be tracked.
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03-28-2011 , 04:30 PM
couple questions for you guys, thanks for the help =)

1. I use these stats for my cash ring game, is this also good for single table and or 180's?
Hands/name/agg factor
vpip/pfr/steal/fold steal
3bet/fold 3 bet/cbet flop/fold cbet flop

2. I got a 330$ stack, and a fairly good sense of how the game runs, so what stakes should I start on?

3. Whats currently a better pick, turbo or non turbo?

Thanks
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03-28-2011 , 06:40 PM
Hey. It says on stars vipclub page that to get to a new vip-level (from bronze- to silverstar etc.) you must get the required vpp's by the last day of the month. So does this mean that I can still collect VPPs that I need to upgrade my viplevel on the last day of month or is it too late then?
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03-28-2011 , 06:44 PM
Yes it's fine up until midnight EST on the last night of the month, that being the 31st this month

Last edited by alexd11; 03-28-2011 at 06:49 PM. Reason: EST
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03-29-2011 , 11:16 AM
newbie sng wiz vs holdem resources.net icm nash calculator question:

$5 super turbo sng on ftp.4 handed.
blinds = 100/50

co = 230
but = 880
sb = 1050
bb = 540

co folds. sng wiz has button's shoving range as top 6.2%. holdemresources.net icm nash calculator spits out button should shove top 68.0% !!!

wtf did i do wrong???
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03-29-2011 , 12:11 PM
You need to input your own ranges. Wiz just throws shoving and calling ranges out there that are usually really bad. I dont use nash, but I assume it just shows the Nash Equilibrim shoving and calling ranges for all players.

So basically if sb and bb are playing game theory perfect and assume btn is doing the same, btn can profitably shove 68% of hands. I play a ton of these and can tell you that there are next to zero player that are gonna shove that wide on the button. In a vaccum im prob shoving 25% or so, but honestly i could shove anywhere from 5%-100% depending on what kind of reads I have on the blinds.
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03-29-2011 , 12:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Rusemandingo
You need to input your own ranges. Wiz just throws shoving and calling ranges out there that are usually really bad. I dont use nash, but I assume it just shows the Nash Equilibrim shoving and calling ranges for all players.

So basically if sb and bb are playing game theory perfect and assume btn is doing the same, btn can profitably shove 68% of hands. I play a ton of these and can tell you that there are next to zero player that are gonna shove that wide on the button. In a vaccum im prob shoving 25% or so, but honestly i could shove anywhere from 5%-100% depending on what kind of reads I have on the blinds.
in this example wiz has the sb calling with top 16%. i can't see sb calling button with a3s knowing losing to the button will cripple his stack. it also puts bb calling with 32% and i don't see that with shorty having only half the bb's stack.
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03-29-2011 , 12:36 PM
yah the wiz ranges are worthless. Sngwiz is only as good as the person inputing the ranges and edges. But once you learn to do that its the best tool possible for late sng spots.
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03-30-2011 , 01:31 PM
hey guys, i am still pretty new in STT and, rdy to put serious volume on pstars' step satellite. like to hear u guys about any tips, tools, or even poker website that might accelerate my learning curve. Right now I know step 1 is pretty fishy
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03-30-2011 , 03:57 PM
Which sites have super turbo sngs? I know FTP has them and Stars has hyper turbos.

Any Euro sites that run those?
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