If you are running with +EV pushes into better hands over and over theres
nothing you can do. Can add up to 100s of BI. Because of that just practice
bankroll-management and move down if necessary.

If you are making mistakes though, you should really start worrying and plug your leaks.

Would anyone (beginner or not) be interested in running through a few hand histories and analysing some hands? Definitely having a lot of tricky spots at the moment and would like to talk about it with some other people just to get some ideas and to discuss thoughts.

i would love to hear about this aswell.

My room has just launched freeroll 10-max SnGs, the winner is paid bonus points that can be converted to money, the other players get nothing. One can enter up to 4 such SnGs at the same time (alas, I can't more than 2-table) but there are no other limitations (one may play as many and as often as one can, unlike PKR giveaways). Most of us use the push/fold strategy even with 50BB, in order to play very many such SnGs and increase our winrate per hour, so there are preflop multishoves. What strategy maximizes the winrate-per-hour? Do I take it right that I should play mainly SCs&AA (edit: maybe 99+ for setmining and suited kings/aces?) in the first hand (when 6-10 players shove) and good (e.g. face-containing) hands further, i.e., in 4-max I'll shove top 25% and fold others? In general, shoving what kind of hands is +EV in 4-10-man multishoves?
Update: the room has just announced that 'they're experiencing technical issues' lol (too many registrations), maybe they're gonna cancel such SnGs soon, they were so stupid to introduce them...
Edit: Or maybe they're not so stupid and they're intentionally devaluating the FPP-like bonus points (that were prev-ly cashed out in MTTs, making it a decent rakeback, now the MTTs will get overpopulated). Anyway I'm gonna get rid of my bonuses as soon as I can, and to achieve the minimum needed for conversion I have to play these SnGs that are too cheap for me cuz it's way faster and cheaper than paying rake in cash. That's so sick...

Most of you are complete ******s then. Sry man, but please, PLEASE! read the STTF Stickies before posting any more. Shoving 50BB is so bad, i dont have words for it.

Edit: Sitting out (autofolding) by short stacks has proved a good strategy in such sng lmao (because they give up and don't waste time and the leader loses time having to click the limp button). Iyo how short should I be to us this lol strat effectively?

@siebe: You don't get the point. We try to end the tourney in 1 hand or at least few hands! It's better in terms of winrate-per-hour to play 40 1-hand *freerolls* where I win in 5% of cases than to win 1 30-hand *freeroll*. It's the best way to take more money from the room administration, the money is distributed more-or-less uniformly because it's blind fortune, not skill. I'm seeking a way to end the tourney in 2-5 hands with >10% probab of success. Imho it's the room that's more ******ed. They often misunderstand how players adjust to their mad tourney structures.

Edit: Shoving 50bb preflop is certainly NOT my usual play in real money SnGs. In fact, I parallelly won quite a decent $3 HU with a lot of postflop play. I'm sick with FPS, but imho I'm not that bad in other respects, read my other posts.

Edit: 1 more example. At the same room there used to be a tourney with $0.01 rebuys and addons and $100 prize pool. Certainly everybody played multishove pots in order to increase the stack depth after the break (those who 10x their starting stacks were in fact shortstacks after the break with 100bb).

OK, sorry for 2 previous posts, I was just kidding, trying to make fun of Action Poker Network where this crazy stuff is indeed going on (I'll move away soon, honestly).

Now I'll ask a bit more serious question: what should I do with fishier guys who are bad at 3bet sizing and always make mini-reraises?

The common scenario is: 6-max SnG, stacks 1500 at blinds 10/20, I open-raise from the button to 60, SB folds, BB reraises to 100 lmao.

1. How often does this happen at FTP/Stars microlimits?

2. What should be my range of flatting if I put the fish on JJ+, AQ+ (or even tighter, though they're usually looser) and I plan to fold otf unless I hit hard and beat his range?

3. What should be my range in similar spots when I'm OOP?

Note that, assuming the fish will 100% cbet potsize, I get very seductive 40-to-380 (or 2-to-19) implied odds even if he won't invest ott and otr. So I think I should at least flat with any PPs (~11% to flop a set+), any SCs (~12% to flop a combo+). What about taking the plunge with offsuit connectors (they 11% flop OESD but this may be insufficient for calling/raising his barrels) or suited aces (~11% to hit a nut flush draw or a nut flush)?

Where can i find an article covering DON BRM and overall stategy?

Would like to give this a small bump, I just started playing SnG's ($11/$22) on various sites. Still not sure what is better though to just play at one site (stars) or mix it up with some euro sites and fill the rest up with stars SnG's.

Is there any way to effectively multitable SnG's on different sites (ipoker/party/full tillt and stars) or is it better to just mass multi table the less soft stars with table ninja? (I play around 8-10 tables of 6 and 10max on different sites now and guess I could play 16 or so with table ninja)

Here is a recent hand from a $1.08 DON on Merge.

I'm unsure if this was a good shove or not. The Button was 32/4, SB was 17/8, and BB was 50/38. This feels like it was a close call for a shove, but still comes up a little weak. If so, what should my pocket pair shoving range be here?

Ok another try, not sure if anyone actually reads this thread, but well I'm playing around with SnG's a bit, but not yet sure where to play/settle.

I'd like to play 10-6 max SnG's $11/$22, but also open to 18/45/180 man SnG's. Right now I also mix in DoN's, but that's because sometimes I can't find enough tables.

Ideally ipoker would be good because of the rb, but there doesn't seem to be enough volume, most of it is DoN's

Stars has the most volume, but I have no vip level there yet, so rakeback is crap and I think it is not as soft as the other sites. But if I do gain a high vip level there it will help a bit as well with my tourney nights.

Party, got a nice bonus there and it's quite easy to gain levels there, leaning towards party the most now. But the software sucks and every time a tournament finishes it messes up my stacked tables.

FTP, I got rakeback, but it doesn't seem to be that soft and volume is low as well.

I think right now the best combo for me is playing at part 8-12 tables in stack mode and then add in 4-8 tables from ipoker because of party's low volume.

Volume is the most important factor for a winning sng-player, so stars (maybe party) is the best option. Games are not THAT thougher than on other sites imo. Party, FT is also reginfested as hell and its nearly impossible to make a living of ipoker playing sngs imo. At least i dont know a single pro playing on there.

Maybe I should add that I can only play like 500-1000 SnG's a month does that change anything?

That makes stars a less attractive, you probably won't be able to make platinum star or at least not every month. Gold vs Plat star is 17% vs 22% rakeback iirc (fpppro.com has more info!). Tilt is 27% so if you were only making gold that'd be a huge difference for a sit n goer and I also find Tilt to be a bit softer (though tilt post black friday might kinda suck..dunno)

45+ sngs have more variance, with your low volume I can't say I'd suggest them as a main game. That being said your gonna make significantly more $/game in an 45+ game if you're at all decent and mixing formats is fun anyway

Stars is def a little tougher, but it also has the best software and BY FAR the best support. About evens out imo

Well I decided to go for Full Tilt, even though the rake is a bit higher I think and Table Ninja is missing a couple of functions that do work in stars.

More than enough volume for me though so that is good.

How do I put iPoker hands in to the Hand History Converter?

Thanks.

Does anyone know how to add a RB% to sharkscope graphs. Is that through SS or a separate program.

Advanced search/Other Options/Include Rakeback and then adjust the % on the lower left.

Obv need a Ss account to do this, If you don't have one Pm me if you want me to search anything.

Since stars messed up the sng's I've been planning to move to fulltiltpoker. I however already have an accout there and I used a promo that gave me free cash. Is it still possible for me to get rakeback somehow? I haven't made a deposit yet.

Nah I have one, thx alex.

Send a email to Fulltilt asking about this, usually they work with rakebackpros, but they need to see if you are linked to other affiliate when create your account or you open the account from the fulltilt page in first place.

Send the email and they will tell you if you are ok to get it or nay.

I would go for ftp, lots softer than stars esp >20 and decent rb. there are plenty of 9 man turbo games(you can get 12 min. any time of day) you mix 24s with 12s or 36s. Also 90 mans are really soft.

i know it sounds a little bit stalky. who do you think is the best 18man player on stars.
i know epitomised is really good. his blog is a nice read btw.

who else is really good at 18 man on stars?

Whats a good ROI/ITM over say 1000 $2 six max sngs?

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