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06-18-2013 , 08:31 AM
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Originally Posted by TomoDaK
Mike clearly misread your post
Nah, my point was that after 250 games is nothing and he will not learn anything at all about his game by looking at this finish distro. Literally a total and complete waste of time.
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06-19-2013 , 12:13 PM
Today I read a very enlightening pdf that told me I could "wield the bias against confrontation as a weapon" by either going all-in or folding (after the early stage of SnG is done with). I was trying this out and here are two pivotal hands I would like some feedback on if you have a second.


    Poker Stars, $1.29 Buy-in (50/100 blinds) No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 5 Players
    Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #18002832

    MP: 3,485 (34.9 bb)
    CO: 2,440 (24.4 bb)
    BTN: 2,123 (21.2 bb)
    SB: 1,602 (16 bb)
    Hero (BB): 3,850 (38.5 bb)

    Preflop: Hero is BB with K 9
    MP folds, CO raises to 400, 2 folds, Hero calls 300

    Flop: (850) A 5 K (2 players)
    Hero bets 3,450 and is all-in, CO calls 2,040 and is all-in



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      Poker Stars, $1.29 Buy-in (50/100 blinds) No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 5 Players
      Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #18002852

      SB: 3,535 (35.4 bb)
      BB: 2,740 (27.4 bb)
      MP: 1,640 (16.4 bb)
      CO: 3,660 (36.6 bb)
      Hero (BTN): 1,925 (19.3 bb)

      Preflop: Hero is BTN with J A
      MP folds, CO raises to 300, Hero raises to 1,925 and is all-in, 2 folds, CO calls 1,625



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      I think they were both good pushes but I'm ready to be corrected!
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      06-20-2013 , 04:30 AM
      1st hand) just fold pre.... as played, why are you shoving the flop? Id probably c/c and re-evalute on turn...

      2nd hand) Looks close, its tough without reads and you still have 19bb if u fold. Im probably folding more than shoving readless here...
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      06-20-2013 , 05:32 AM
      It's better to try to find a logical reason for the things you've read.

      So hand 1 we should fold pre, but let's look at the flop and think.
      What do we want, what options do we have and how well will they contribute to what we want?
      We want what we always want apart from ICM considerations: Worse hands should put more money in the pot, better hands should fold, draws should have to pay a too high price.
      So go think: How does shoving contribute to these aims? Are there better options?
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      06-20-2013 , 05:36 AM
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      Originally Posted by mckrogh
      1st hand) just fold pre.... as played, why are you shoving the flop? Id probably c/c and re-evalute on turn...

      2nd hand) Looks close, its tough without reads and you still have 19bb if u fold. Im probably folding more than shoving readless here...
      Thanks for the reply! To answer your question, because I was only against one opponent and figured the chances of him having an A were slim. I see what you are saying, I shouldn't have played this one in the first place.

      In the 2nd hand, CO was a bit of a hell raiser.

      Thanks again.
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      06-20-2013 , 05:43 AM
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      Originally Posted by LeaksSuck
      It's better to try to find a logical reason for the things you've read.

      So hand 1 we should fold pre, but let's look at the flop and think.
      What do we want, what options do we have and how well will they contribute to what we want?
      We want what we always want apart from ICM considerations: Worse hands should put more money in the pot, better hands should fold, draws should have to pay a too high price.
      So go think: How does shoving contribute to these aims? Are there better options?
      Almost missed your reply because it popped up while I was writing my last post! Thanks, that's so obvious now that I think about it, I'm writing it down in my notebook!
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      06-22-2013 , 12:00 AM


      The advice you got in the pdf is generally correct.

      However, there is a catch. A lot of people, especially, at micro-low stakes dont understand the concept of 'BIAS against confrontation'. Even if your opponents do understand the concept I still disagree with the way you played your hands.

      Hand 1: You want to fold this preflop. 4x raises are generally very strong + you are oop + the kind of hand you have will often be behind if you hit and he does aswell (assuming the earlier statement that his range is strong is true).

      Also the flop shove is bad. Because (again as stated above), we dont know if villain is capable of folding, say A7. My personal experience (10k+ SNGs) shows me that unknown players at micro-low stakes, cant fold an Ace here. And that is what you are doing here. You turn your 2nd pair into a bluff. Villain will never call you with worse. He might fold some better hands. But that is not worth the risk, imo.

      Hand 2: I agree with McKrogh that it is close readless. If you have a read that villain opens wide I shove for sure. But otherwise, as this is a 1$ SNG and competition is bad, I pass this spot.
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      06-25-2013 , 01:14 AM
      hey guys. if you are good at math/stats and are also using pt4, this question is for you. i'm trying to understand the graph section of pt4 with limited success. there are two different stats that i'm looking at: "my c net adjusted" and "net adjusted chips won."

      my understanding of net adjusted chips won is the amount of chips that you would win based on your all in equity vs the hand you are up against. for example, if you had aa, went all in and were called by kk, you what have 82% of equity added to this line regardless of whether or not you won the hand. is this correct? and is it effected by chip stacks? for example, if i'm in a tourney where i only have 500 chips left, and i go all in with aa, will my line go up the same amount as if i have 3000 chips and go all in with aa and get called by someone with an equal or bigger stack?

      in trying to understand how my c net adjusted is different, i mailed pt4 support and got this response:

      "My C Net Adjusted is based on the ICM calculations of all of the all-ins in a tournament (the sum of the differences between the actual ICM value at the end of a hand and the theoretical ICM value using the equity outcome from the cards involved) but the Net Expected Chips Won is based on each individual all-in hand individually.

      Depending on the situation in the tournament an individual hand may have more effect on expected chips than it does on expected monetary win, or vice versa."

      i could not understand this response. is there anyone who can break it down for me in a way a dummy could understand?
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      06-26-2013 , 06:48 PM
      Whatsthe best way to get into hypers and 18 mans , content doesn't seem too good ?
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      06-27-2013 , 06:26 AM
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      Originally Posted by ThePressure
      Whatsthe best way to get into hypers and 18 mans , content doesn't seem too good ?
      something i've been wondering too.

      How would people suggest you 'study'?
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      06-27-2013 , 02:40 PM
      anyone?
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      06-27-2013 , 03:29 PM
      A good start would be to learn push/fold. Heres a great post u can look at:
      http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/36...-tl-dr-625856/
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      07-01-2013 , 03:33 AM
      Started playing 6max hypers again after playing cash for a while, and just upgraded to pt4 from pt3

      Here's yesterday's graph, for $10 6 max hypers on FTP




      Having never seen the orange line before can someone explain what it is showing?

      I think it's showing EV in terms of ICM value of my push fold play?

      How accurate should I assume the orange line is? Do I need to do more configuration to make it show a more representative picture?

      Thanks
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      07-08-2013 , 02:57 PM
      What is good BRM for 18-man SNGs? All I find when I search around is Jennifear's BRM, but that stuff is like 5 years old, games should be harder and req more BI's right?
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      07-11-2013 , 08:57 PM
      Best software to track sng results? Hm2 or pokertracker?
      Best site for usa players to grind hyper turbos? Merge? bovada?
      People are able to make a living grinding hyper turbos right?
      With a 300 dollar deposit what kind of stakes are recommended to play for hyper turbos?
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      07-13-2013 , 09:11 AM
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      Originally Posted by Eman6969
      Best software to track sng results? Hm2 or pokertracker?
      To track exact results in $? No software, just your own Excel-Spreadsheet

      HEM and PT may make mistakes in importing bounties if you play those, you may disconnect --> miss tournament summary --> results flawed, your DB might get corrupted for some reason,...
      Sharkscope also doesn't match 100% of your tourneys.

      Needless to say you need one of those programs anyway, but for exact $-results there's nothing better than tracking yourself.
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      07-13-2013 , 09:34 AM
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      Originally Posted by Eman6969
      Best site for usa players to grind hyper turbos? Merge? bovada?
      Make sure you do your homework before depositing anywhere in the USA. Go to the internet poker forum and check their cashout threads. I can't recommend a specific place (in good faith as a moderator). If you spend a few hours it will make your hours of playing later MUCHHHHH better. Another way is to check the person to person transfers thread to see how much the money is selling for. If the money is selling for 33% like Lock was a few weeks ago, deposit only if you don't mind seeing that money for months. Trust me, I have found out the hard way 3 times in the last year and a half.
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      07-14-2013 , 05:47 AM
      Why do some people play an absurd amount of micro Sat Hypers.....they cant be that profitable as you'll never earn a lot of rakeback from them?
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      07-14-2013 , 03:52 PM
      Hi. Less of a beginner now than I was, but this seemed the best place for this question.

      So I like to use Sharkscope to track my results as HM doesn't catch all of my Sng results and I'm too lazy to try and fix it.

      In sharkscope when I search myself and select the "filter by stakes" graph, the stakes are listed without the rake included. So is the ROI for each stake, as shown in the graph, calculated with or without the rake being accounted for?

      Thanks is advance
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      07-15-2013 , 12:27 AM
      Why does sngwiz 'suck' when it was the nuts a few years ago?
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      07-15-2013 , 07:31 PM
      Not a beginner question but ill try it out here first anyway.

      What min EV Diff % would be preferable to use in 18-man SNGs for ICM? Stick to 0.00 or go higher to 0.15 etc?
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      07-16-2013 , 06:10 AM
      Quote:
      Originally Posted by AM3RCUR14L0NE
      Why does sngwiz 'suck' when it was the nuts a few years ago?
      It doesn't suck, there are just better alternatives.
      The biggest disadvantage of Wiz is that you (afair) can't set customized ranges.

      Quote:
      Originally Posted by ozziwar
      What min EV Diff % would be preferable to use in 18-man SNGs for ICM? Stick to 0.00 or go higher to 0.15 etc?
      Depends. An if this is not a beginner question, you should know on which factors this depends
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      07-16-2013 , 07:42 AM
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      Originally Posted by LeaksSuck
      It doesn't suck, there are just better alternatives.
      The biggest disadvantage of Wiz is that you (afair) can't set customized ranges.



      Depends. An if this is not a beginner question, you should know on which factors this depends
      Probably!
      Beginner question it is, but is there an answear?
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      07-16-2013 , 10:02 AM
      Yeah, I already gave it:

      Quote:
      Originally Posted by LeaksSuck
      Depends
      Imagine two situations:

      1) You're utg in a 9man, 6 players left, you got 3bb.

      2) You're massive chipleader in a 9man, 4 players left, other guys have similar stacks and aren't ******ed. You're asked to call a shove.

      Would it be a good idea to use the same edge in both situations? Why?
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      07-16-2013 , 10:16 AM
      hello folks,

      i´m looking for a new site to grind sngs up to $11 buy-in exept Stars and FTP.
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