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09-21-2010 , 01:06 AM

#501

300zxrider

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Originally Posted by 300zxrider

I'm a cash game player on Stars and I play the 280FPP hyper turbo 6-man tournaments to convert my FPPs to cash since I'm only a silverstar player right now. Can anybody recommend me any good posts to read to learn how to play these a little better? Are there any videos on cardrunners about these games?

I know the basics like, it takes a stronger hand to call a shove than it does to shove, push lighter in late position than in ep, etc. I'm just trying to make my game a little better so I can have a higher ROI in these things.

Also, can I track these games in HEM? How big of a sample size would I need to determine if I'm a winning player?

Anybody?

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09-21-2010 , 04:34 PM

#502

Tappy Tibbons

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Originally Posted by 300zxrider

Collin Moshman once did a video for these on Stoxpoker. You might try asking Cardrunners to make that available.

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09-21-2010 , 07:38 PM

#503

pokerplaya5

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Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 346

How would you play this hand?

Payouts: 1-2 get step 4 ticket ($75), 3-4 get step 3 ($26), 5th gets step 2 ($8.70), and 6-7 get step 1 ($3.30)

Full Tilt Poker Step 3 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t20/t40 Blinds - 9 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked.com

UTG: t1485 37.12 BBs
UTG+1: t1205 30.12 BBs
UTG+2: t960 24 BBs
MP1: t2200 55 BBs
MP2: t2340 58.50 BBs
CO: t1255 31.38 BBs
BTN: t1440 36 BBs
Hero (SB): t1460 36.50 BBs
BB: t1155 28.88 BBs

Pre Flop: (t60) Hero is SB with K

1 fold, UTG+1 calls t40, 4 folds, BTN raises to t180 Hero??

Last edited by pokerplaya5; 09-21-2010 at 07:44 PM. Reason: no reads on anybody. only like 2nd level. regular speed.

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09-23-2010 , 03:30 AM

#504

Alexnorge

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Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 1,919

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Originally Posted by 300zxrider

buy in, pray for an Ace, pushhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

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09-23-2010 , 06:55 AM

#505

mckrogh

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Originally Posted by pokerplaya5

1 fold, UTG+1 calls t40, 4 folds, BTN raises to t180 Hero??

Shove?

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09-23-2010 , 02:31 PM

#506

pokerplaya5

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^^ yeah that is what I did but I didn't know if there was a more +ev way to play a situation like that so early in the match.

Another spot:

Say I am on the button with KK, blinds at 20/40 and somebody in MP makes it 120. Also assume everyone has basically 1500 chips. Do you guys just shove there as well?

If not and you three bet, how much would you make it and how do you play a flop of A58 rainbow?

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09-23-2010 , 04:41 PM

#507

mckrogh

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Originally Posted by pokerplaya5

Say I am on the button with KK, blinds at 20/40 and somebody in MP makes it 120. Also assume everyone has basically 1500 chips. Do you guys just shove there as well?

If not and you three bet, how much would you make it and how do you play a flop of A58 rainbow?

Make it 360 pre, and if flop is A58, then check back flop and re-eval turn

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09-23-2010 , 05:16 PM

#508

bmfbpi

centurion

Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 189

I would 3bet him, if he flats I shove flop

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09-23-2010 , 06:23 PM

#509

CCuster_911

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Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 24,435

Is HEM EV pretty accurate for DoNs?

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09-23-2010 , 09:51 PM

#510

deucegame

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Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 1,962

is it just me or is the FAQ a bit outdated?

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09-23-2010 , 10:24 PM

#511

EzplusEV

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Yeah, some of it needs to be updated.

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09-27-2010 , 06:23 PM

#512

monkeytube

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Join Date: Sep 2010 Posts: 2

Hi all, just wondering what you make of this. Both villans are playing around 40/15 after ~17 hands. UTG has already raised and then reraised AI on an OESD from EP with JTo.

Party Poker $3 USD Buy-in No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t50/t100 Blinds - 10 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked.com

MP3: t1100 11 BBs
CO: t1890 18.90 BBs
BTN: t2210 22.10 BBs
Hero (SB): t1840 18.40 BBs
BB: t1740 17.40 BBs
UTG: t4270 42.70 BBs
UTG+1: t1850 18.50 BBs
UTG+2: t1500 15 BBs
MP1: t1690 16.90 BBs
MP2: t1910 19.10 BBs

Pre Flop: (t0) Hero is SB with Q

UTG raises to t200, 6 folds, BTN calls t200, Hero calls t200, 1 fold

Flop: (t600) K

(3 players)
Hero checks, UTG bets t350, BTN raises to t700

Looking back it seems to me like a shov

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09-27-2010 , 10:50 PM

#513

alexd11

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Shoving pre is super standard.

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09-29-2010 , 11:10 AM

#514

TruFloridaGator

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Originally Posted by CCuster_911

Is HEM EV pretty accurate for DoNs?

Nope. It will give you an idea of how you're running, but the payout structure skews it a lot.

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Originally Posted by deucegame

is it just me or is the FAQ a bit outdated?

Perhaps

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Originally Posted by EzplusEV

Yeah, some of it needs to be updated.

Like what?

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09-29-2010 , 01:37 PM

#515

therightdeal

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I limp in early position with 99. Thinking back perhaps I should have raised in this position? I know I played this wrong. Anyway, guy in middle position raises to 240, and a guy round from him moves all in. He is the chip leader by the way.

:@

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09-29-2010 , 03:23 PM

#516

EzplusEV

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Depends on the blind level.

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09-29-2010 , 03:44 PM

#517

therightdeal

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It was 40/80.

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09-30-2010 , 12:33 AM

#518

MinSixBet

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Originally Posted by 300zxrider

Anybody?

I would recommend watching Jorj95. These have so many showdowns that you will end up seeing the player's hands a ton. Only thing is, he usually plays the highest stakes hypers that run, so youd have to figure out what adjustments need to be made for the 280s

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09-30-2010 , 12:49 AM

#519

MinSixBet

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Can anyone tell me how common this is? This is mostly the $16s and $13 6max turbos on stars. Also some $25 6max , $22 non turbos, $6.50 18 mans.

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09-30-2010 , 12:50 AM

#520

TomoDaK

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Sadly it's pretty standard lol, happens to the best of us.

Min6 you got the same avatar on stars? Believe we played a few sessions today

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09-30-2010 , 02:41 AM

#521

MinSixBet

grinder

Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 639

Yea i do. yea we prob played together if those are your reg games

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09-30-2010 , 11:37 AM

#522

mypkrstuff

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Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 453

what examples of plays do you class as high variance or low variance?

why do you choose to make the high or low variance play?

how do these plays effect ROI?

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09-30-2010 , 11:48 AM

#523

Ronny Mahoni

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Example for high variance: Making a neutral EV move. Like calling someones push with a hand that is BE vs his pushing range.

Low variance play: Making a highly +EV or -EV move. Like calling someones push with a hand thats extremely -EV/+EV vs his range.

It affects your ROI in that way +EV increases your ROI -EV decreases your ROI.

Short and simple hope it helped