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04-23-2008 , 03:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Gurravasa
Do you get any added value to that like bonuses, FPP:s etc?

BTW Ipoker rakes twice as much as stars, but then you get 50%rb and it's the same anyway
Quote:
Originally Posted by skillgambler
hm, i just realised: i payed $4.9k in rake at stars in the last 1.5 months., going from .25/.5 to 2-4/3-6/5-T, mixed in with some nl(about $250 rake there). i got a $800 dollar cash bonus(german players only lolz) for 50k fpps and have about 32k fpps right now, which are worth about 1.5ct each(i guess), meaning i got about $1250 worth in RB, or about 25%. pretty sick, since i always assumed i got a pretty bad RB deal for really awesome software+support.
fwiw you get about 25% RB as a platinum, what's fairly easy to reach

edit: quoted the post i made in here
04-23-2008 , 04:33 PM
beeing supernova at 2/4 3/6 or 5/10 is like getting little over 27% back
04-23-2008 , 05:54 PM
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Originally Posted by timoK
beeing supernova at 2/4 3/6 or 5/10 is like getting little over 27% back
I'm sorry, I guess this has been explained a million times but what exactly is that one gets by becoming a supernova?

Is it the cash bonuses you buy with the FPP's? Is there a restriction/month or can you just buy a new one all the time and what you gain by beeing a supernova is 1) beeing able to get them in the first place and 2) You clear them faster since you get more FPP's per VPP?

Do you lose value if you buy other stuff with the FPP's?
04-23-2008 , 06:17 PM
cash bonuses and concierge.

one is 1.5c for fpp, one is 1.6c... platinumstars has the 650$ bonus which is 1.3c per fpp... so yes, its roughly a 15-20% increase in that regard

add to the fact that you get 3.5fpp for every 1vpp at sn, instead of 2.5fpp /1vpp.

rough math... if rb at some level for a platinum member is 20% (rough estimate for 3/6 sh limit), rb at same level for supernova is 20% * 1.6/1.3 * 3.5/2.5 = 34.5%

major difference here already... add some freerolls and milestone bonuses and you have a winnar.

ps. bonuses clear with vpps, so you don't ever clear em faster.. if oyu wanna clear faster, you have to move up a limit or two.

@gurravasa: 0.5vpp (so 0.5$ rake) per hand is common for 2/4 sh. can vary +-0.05 if games are more nitty or loose. he probably plays nitty games if his usual games have 0.48/hand.
04-23-2008 , 11:52 PM
This guy is 2+2:

Poker Stars $1/$2 Limit Hold'em - 6 players
2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked

Pre Flop: Hero is SB with J T
UTG raises, 3 folds, Hero calls, BB calls

Flop: (6 SB) K 9 Q (3 players)
Hero bets, BB calls, UTG raises, Hero 3-bets, BB calls, UTG calls

Turn: (7.5 BB) 8 (3 players)
Hero bets, BB calls, UTG raises, Hero 3-bets, BB calls, UTG caps!, Hero calls, BB folds

River: (18.5 BB) K (2 players)
Hero bets, UTG raises, Hero calls

Spoiler:
Final Pot: 22.5 BB
UTG shows Kc Qh (a full house, Kings full of Queens)
Hero mucks Js Td
UTG wins 22 BB
(Rake: $1.00)
04-24-2008 , 01:05 AM
I can't remember which one of you is MoheganSun, but wow, you're awesome.
04-24-2008 , 01:32 AM
When did this turn into the Stars BBV thread?
04-24-2008 , 01:33 AM
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Originally Posted by timoK
beeing supernova at 2/4 3/6 or 5/10 is like getting a lot over 27% back
The rake is like .4BB/100 lower at Stars too, compared to FTP. I'm only pointing this out because I've been playing on FTP a lot lately.
04-24-2008 , 01:44 AM
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Originally Posted by GiantBuddha
When did this turn into the Stars BBV thread?
yesterday, 11:52
04-24-2008 , 01:53 AM
Hey, get out of those $1/2 games, will ya? My girlfriend's trying to beat those now, so you know, the less tags the better. Besides, there's plenty of fish at $2/4.

btw, what's up with preflop in that JTo hand? What's your cold calling range from the SB v. and UTG raise? Mine is like: {...}. Is this a leak?
04-24-2008 , 02:15 AM
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Originally Posted by GiantBuddha
Hey, get out of those $1/2 games, will ya? My girlfriend's trying to beat those now, so you know, the less tags the better. Besides, there's plenty of fish at $2/4.

btw, what's up with preflop in that JTo hand? What's your cold calling range from the SB v. and UTG raise? Mine is like: {...}. Is this a leak?
I was a little titled from all the beats and did you notice how many bets he put in post-flop?
04-24-2008 , 02:15 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Absolution
This guy is 2+2:

Poker Stars $1/$2 Limit Hold'em - 6 players
2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked

Pre Flop: Hero is SB with J T
UTG raises, 3 folds, Hero calls, BB calls

Flop: (6 SB) K 9 Q (3 players)
Hero bets, BB calls, UTG raises, Hero 3-bets, BB calls, UTG calls

Turn: (7.5 BB) 8 (3 players)
Hero bets, BB calls, UTG raises, Hero 3-bets, BB calls, UTG caps!, Hero calls, BB folds

River: (18.5 BB) K (2 players)
Hero bets, UTG raises, Hero calls

Spoiler:
Final Pot: 22.5 BB
UTG shows Kc Qh (a full house, Kings full of Queens)
Hero mucks Js Td
UTG wins 22 BB
(Rake: $1.00)
Dude, you keep posting hands where the guy DIDN"T PLAY THAT BADLY. He got coolered, you got recoolered. It happens, if you can't deal with it, maybe this game isn't for you.

Edit: by not playing badly, he has BB still in the pot for dead money, and knows you suck (or are at least playing like it this hand) because of PF...

Last edited by sethypooh21; 04-24-2008 at 02:17 AM. Reason: simmer down
04-24-2008 , 02:29 AM
5-T is treating me nicely <3
04-24-2008 , 03:06 AM
His turn cap is spew, and waiting to raise the turn after your flop 3-bet is bad, IMO. But just calling the flop and popping the turn is a reasonable line here, especially with BB just sucking along.

And I run so bad v. Sethypooh. To be fair, I don't play all that well v. him, either.
04-24-2008 , 09:32 AM
everyone who ever beats absolution in a hand = giant tagfish who cruelly coolered absolution in spite of abso's knowledge of the ftop

every time absolution ever beats anyone in a hand = tremendous skill and righteous play were finally rewarded in spite of the sadistic poker universe

also abso never makes a mistake. ever. same as chuck norris.
04-24-2008 , 09:43 AM
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Originally Posted by Absolution
I was a little titled from all the beats and did you notice how many bets he put in post-flop?
I did notice that you lost 7.5!
04-24-2008 , 09:47 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Absolution
This guy is 2+2:

Poker Stars $1/$2 Limit Hold'em - 6 players
2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked

Pre Flop: Hero is SB with J T
UTG raises, 3 folds, Hero calls, BB calls

Flop: (6 SB) K 9 Q (3 players)
Hero bets, BB calls, UTG raises, Hero 3-bets, BB calls, UTG calls

Turn: (7.5 BB) 8 (3 players)
Hero bets, BB calls, UTG raises, Hero 3-bets, BB calls, UTG caps!, Hero calls, BB folds

River: (18.5 BB) K (2 players)
Hero bets, UTG raises, Hero calls

Spoiler:
Final Pot: 22.5 BB
UTG shows Kc Qh (a full house, Kings full of Queens)
Hero mucks Js Td
UTG wins 22 BB
(Rake: $1.00)
yeah, i was villain in hand, you played awful. fold pf. on the river, wtf is that lead? trying to prevent a hand you're splitting with from checking behind? it doesn't cost you when I have JT but whenever i don't, it's just burning a big bet.
04-24-2008 , 09:49 AM
i also fold that preflop or 3bet at least
04-24-2008 , 10:22 AM
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Originally Posted by Rapwnzel
yeah, i was villain in hand, you played awful. fold pf. on the river, wtf is that lead? trying to prevent a hand you're splitting with from checking behind? it doesn't cost you when I have JT but whenever i don't, it's just burning a big bet.
Okay then.
04-24-2008 , 10:24 AM
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Originally Posted by BigBadBabar
everyone who ever beats absolution in a hand = giant tagfish who cruelly coolered absolution in spite of abso's knowledge of the ftop

every time absolution ever beats anyone in a hand = tremendous skill and righteous play were finally rewarded in spite of the sadistic poker universe

also abso never makes a mistake. ever. same as chuck norris.
Seriously, why do you not ignore me? For as many issues as I have with tilt obviously, you have some of your own. You seek out my posts to ridicule me like a 12 year old, perhaps because last time you blatantly insulted me for no reason your post got deleted.
04-24-2008 , 10:30 AM
on a related note, 5-T games really suck at times and are reeeally good other times.
04-24-2008 , 10:34 AM
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Originally Posted by Absolution
Seriously, why do you not ignore me? For as many issues as I have with tilt obviously, you have some of your own. You seek out my posts to ridicule me like a 12 year old, perhaps because last time you blatantly insulted me for no reason your post got deleted.
i'm trying to help you

there's an old proverb that says something like 'when everyone in the world is wrong, it's actually you'

and yes, your posts do put me on tilt, so you have me there
04-24-2008 , 10:37 AM
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Originally Posted by BigBadBabar
i'm trying to help you

there's an old proverb that says something like 'when everyone in the world is wrong, it's actually you'

and yes, your posts do put me on tilt, so you have me there
I can't remember the word that you used in that deleted post, but I'm not sure how it was helpful. One thing you are right about (implied) is that I seriously need another venue to vent. Maybe I should start a blog that nobody will read.

p.s. seriously.
04-24-2008 , 10:37 AM
also rapwnzel's advice seems spot on strat-wise.

i'm genuinely curious as to whether you post these hands seeking empathy, or strat advice? because we can't win either way. either we're like 'that sucks man, standard beat,' or 'sorry, not really that much of a cooler,' or 'you probably could have played it better by doing xyz,' and none of those responses are satisfactory to you and usually just anger you further.
04-24-2008 , 10:41 AM
Ya, you're right and here's the deal: I took 2000 beats last night, was mad, it affected my game and I came on here and vented. It's not appropriate and it's no excuse, but I don't think rationally when I make those posts. We both played badly in that hand in my opinion. Me pre-flop and the river. Him on the turn and somewhat the flop.

      
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