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idk, that's the bulk of the hands i've ever played of 6max limit....so I don't know

at 40K hands...1.5 BB/100

at 47K hands...maybe 0.30BB/100

estimate at 50K hands... in the red

just feels like from looking at this, It would be hard to lose 600 BB over 6K hands....if you were trying.....maybe I should have posted this as a brag.

02-09-2010 , 03:27 PM

#1627

Dredok

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I think there is a big chance you were playing tilted even you did not notice ...

600 BB down is not by any means std over 6k hands

edit. Ok thats 600 bb, not 600 BB! so 300BB is a hard downswing but it falls into the std category ... anyways if you are not used to downswings, I guess your chance of tilting here is very high

02-09-2010 , 03:51 PM

#1628

EscapeTheF8

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oh i'm ******ed, i thought that said big bets on the side there..not big blinds...that makes me feel a bit better i suppose...except those estimated WRs that i made up from looking at the graph are now cut in half :-(

02-09-2010 , 03:58 PM

#1629

Dredok

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dont punish yourself.

Just do the usual stuff: read, watch videos, hand review/exchange and try to play better (less tables, more focus, etc.)

02-09-2010 , 04:37 PM

#1630

Drunk loser

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Hi!

I'm a nit. 26/19.5, WTSD 36.5, W@SD 58.5 nit. But I'm over 2 BB/100 winner in last 2 years. Between January 2008 to February 2010 I have played 102813 hands @ $0.50/$1.00 (2.09 winrate) and 86404 hands @ $1/$2 (1.96 winrate). Now these winrates (results) aren't that awesome, if I was some 33/24 dude, but I'm a weak-tight dude. How you comment my weak-tight stats, but solid results? Maybe I'm a lottery winner?

PS. Sorry for my english (never studied english). I usually play 3 tables. My IQ is 133, so it's helps to make correct folds (WTSD only 36.5). My next goal is to crush $2/$4. Do I have a chance?

Last edited by Drunk loser; 02-09-2010 at 04:48 PM.

02-09-2010 , 04:51 PM

#1631

Tirppa

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You table select like crazy? Whats you 3B%?

02-09-2010 , 04:57 PM

#1632

Drunk loser

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Tirppa

You table select like crazy? Whats you 3B%?

Yes, I table select well, but not like crazy (I trying to play 3 best tables available). My 3-bet % is 11. Tirppa I know you have writed, that there isn't winners who's WTSD is under 38, but your are wrong.

02-09-2010 , 05:01 PM

#1633

JQPublic777

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Drunk loser

It's reasonable to win at .5-1, 1/2 w/ those stats. I was told that many preflop styles work; so no, lol, it's not like you won the lottery every hand you played. You must have a mean postflop game combined w/ a great ability to table/seat select.

About WTSD percentage, it is a theory of mine that no particular number is the optimal place to get it. It depends greatly on your playing style. To see more discussion about it, see this thread: http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/22.../index107.html

Dang, your IQ is 133? Mine is like 100.

Good luck at 2/4.

02-09-2010 , 05:04 PM

#1634

Ace_frehly

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It's funny the definition of a nit if you are 26/19. That is not something I would consider nitty. You probably just underdefend your blinds, which really isn't a horrible idea. Just look out for more people targeting your blinds specifically as you move up. But I kinda like underdefending blinds, tends to help keep you out of position.

02-09-2010 , 05:11 PM

#1635

Drunk loser

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Ace_frehly

My Fold BB to steal is 34.15 and my fold to SB to steal is 78.75. So I don't think I'm a nitty blind defender. I just don't raise A9o or 44 UTG or don't 3-bet that much. I don't think 26/19.5 is that nitty @ 0.50/1 or 1/2. What is nitty is my WTSD 36.5. I just don't peel much.

02-09-2010 , 05:18 PM

#1636

ColeW123

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If you're folding that much, you're not making correct folds.

02-09-2010 , 05:20 PM

#1637

TheHip41

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Drunk loser

well done. now over your next 100k hands, you will run like ass, play the exact same, and run at 0.26BB/100

02-09-2010 , 05:23 PM

#1638

Drunk loser

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ColeW123

If you're folding that much, you're not making correct folds.

Maybe, or then all the extra calls 39 WTSD guy makes vs 36.5 guy are break-even showdownds. Plus there is a metagame +EV for the foldy guy (at least for me)? Or I'm a lottery winner?

02-09-2010 , 05:26 PM

#1639

timoK

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Drunk loser

blablabla attention whoreing blablabla IQ133 blablabla does not compute

if you really want a comment post your stats in the stats threat

02-09-2010 , 05:28 PM

#1640

Drunk loser

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Quote:

Originally Posted by TheHip41

well done. now over your next 100k hands, you will run like ass, play the exact same, and run at 0.26BB/100

Yes, it's possible. that's why I wrote maybe I'm a lottery winner. So far I have run bad at least if you count big pairs which I haven't got my fair share yet. And my win rate with Aces is only 2.02/100, not excepted 2.5+/100.

02-09-2010 , 05:29 PM

#1641

Paul Valente

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Drunk loser

My next goal is to crush $2/$4. Do I have a chance?

you'll be fine. Prob gonna have to stop folding so much at 3/6+ though

02-09-2010 , 05:29 PM

#1642

TheHip41

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Drunk loser

Maybe, or then all the extra calls 39 WTSD guy makes vs 36.5 guy are break-even showdownds. Plus there is a metagame +EV for the foldy guy (at least for me)? Or I'm a lottery winner?

my point is, you play well, but you also probably ran well over 100K hands, here is a graph of 10 players, all 3$/100 hands winner, i have no idea the stake, it doesn't matter the stakes or the $$$.

they all play the same, but one runs bad (pink) and one runs great (brown)

so over 100 000 hands, the brown player is at 4000, the pink at 500.

why, only variance.

100,000 hands is a drop in the bucket

02-09-2010 , 05:31 PM

#1643

Drunk loser

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Quote:

Originally Posted by timoK

if you really want a comment post your stats in the stats threat

Yes I know, that your are a LAG, but this thread is a victory for a small guys (TAG's). I was excepting angry comment from LAG's.

02-09-2010 , 05:31 PM

#1644

Leader

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Why would you play 200K hands at .5/1 and 1/2?

02-09-2010 , 05:36 PM

#1645

Drunk loser

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Leader

Why would you play 200K hands at .5/1 and 1/2?

I'm a risk averse and know my limitations. I'm never going to play high or even midstakes. I'm not a wannabe worldclass player or a gambler.

02-09-2010 , 05:37 PM

#1646

Leader

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Drunk loser

I'm a risk averse and know my limitations. I'm never going to play high or even midstakes. I'm not a wannabe worldclass player or a gambler.

silly imo

02-09-2010 , 05:39 PM

#1647

bisonbison

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Originally Posted by TheHip41

What program/site generated that output? I'd love to use it.

02-09-2010 , 05:57 PM

#1648

Drunk loser

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Leader

silly imo

Maybe it's because I'm trying to maximaze my life EV. I take 2+ BB/100 and 16.4/100 Standard deviation any days over 0.5/100 winrate and 20 BB/100 standard deviation. Even thought 0.5/100 at 10/20 is more than 2+/100 @ 1/2, but I don't want to die at age of 33 for heart attack.