If you are a casual player, you're rollled enough to move up.

if you're only winning at 1.35BB its cause for alarm simply because you're gonna find 0.5/1 very swingy and tough. you're gonna have some horrible -300bb days.

i would say fix your leaks and improve your game first before moving up, 40k is quite a decent sample.

Are you serious? Losing 300 dollars in a day at .5-1? Don't u think that's unlikely? even if you are 8+tabeling nit?

I already had 2 -200BB swongs, so I don't feel like as much of a variance noob as before.

Your comments about insufficient skill though is one worth talking about further. So you wouldn't move up until seeing a 2BB/100 over 40k sample size?
Did I understand you correctly?

Yea, well i'm just sharing what worked for me. Started grinding .25/50 last year and was only confident to move up after about 80k hands of 3.5BB. Keep in mind when i first started griding i was "stuck" first a breakeven player to barely a 1BB winner but i wanted to fix my leaks so i slogged it out and kept improving till i could notice a positive change in my game obv reflected by an increasing winrate. Then when i moved up i got stuck at 0.5/1 for quite sometime, same process again only moved up once i was above 2.5BB and so on. Im playing 2/4 now and but only beating marginally so the cycle of improvement continues again.

I feel alot more confident if im beating the previous limit well, and this confidence translate to better play. And about the skill factor - its better to fix your leaks where they cost less imo. 1.3BB at 0.25/0.5 shows theres clearly alot of room for improvement. you don't want to hit a massive downer amplified by your leaks which will wipe out a large chunk of your BR and those 40k hands of hardwork. You want to be beating the limit well, so when you move up it becomes a much smoother transition and the variance is alot less. Those are my thoughts anyway.

And Distajo yes those swings are scary, i was that exact 6-8 tabling nit that had a few -$300 downswing days back when i was playing .5/1 even though i was beating it for 2BB+ so i can imagine the variance will be only worse for someone with a lesser winrate.

Move up.

Mix just 1 higher table into your 4 for a while and pay attention. Play your cards, inform yourself with your reads, take the time you need to think.

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I feel for you. Those downswings really suck.

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what stakes do you play? I think your stats look pretty good in general, but in case you are playing really low stakes like 1/2 or so I think you can make further adjustments.

Stats look good to me. You too Equinox.

damn, i couldn't imagenie losing 600 dollars in a day at 1/2.

Are you willing to move back down if you run bad. Can you set a $ point and move!!! .25/.50 is fishtastic as stated at stars. .5/1 is pretty fishy also especially on weekend maybe not so much during week. Do you really got to play so many tables 4 maybe and work on your game. My mind bleeds at 2, so maybe I'm just really bad but I do win at 2-3 BB/100 and played 18k hands last month. Mostly 1 table and some 2. But definitely cut down tables when you move up. Plus your not going to find the easy 8 tables at .5/1 ...

You might want to play 10-20k hands at and post stats if you made the move. If you can move down then 300bb is plenty, but maybe not with 8 tables. I move at 250 but I'll move back down if I lose 100 at the new level and can't get my balance. Each move from .10/.20 to 1/2 my next level has been a leak finding fest.

honestly I feel like 1-2 tabling tilts me so bad. I get bored and if I drop a little bit i get frustrated. 4 tabling is perfect for me because if I'm down I'm more focused on still making the right decisions at every other table as opposed to stewing about it while I wait for the next playable hand. sometimes I get overwhelmed when I try to take notes but I my play hasn't suffered from what I can tell.

But that being said, dmyers is right that 8 tabling is madness. I don't think OP said he does this but there was another poster that said he used to do it.

I'm losing more from the big blind than you are and my overall winrate is better. I'm sure even the best players are losing money from the blinds but that is just how it works. Also -300bb in a day means you are playing bad poker on too many tables. At 1/2 the worst downswing I've had was 75BB and even that felt like I was running like death.

WTSD - 40.36
W$SD - 52.13

Is this good/bad? Loose/tight? Running bad/good? I'm not sure, thanks in advance everyone! Please do help!

If you play 70% of your hands, this is an epic rush. If you play 15% of your hands, this is an epic downswing.

Hello , this is my last 90k hands where i change my style a little bit, last year i was playing 30, 20, the results are better now but i think i m running good, but i still can t beat 2-4, can you look at my stats from 1-2 and 2-4 i told me what i should start looking for, and can you tell me where on this forum is a topic about equity, thanks

i, m playing 5 handed tables the stats are filtred to 4-5 players

http://i47.tinypic.com/j8m889.jpg

Over a large sample this is running pretty good.

Yeah, that's pretty good. For reference, I have been running 38/50 the last two months and breaking even. Total balls...

What WTSD would be good for a 30/22 kinda style?

39 to 45

Thnx, seems I'm still way too nitty.

tbh w/ you, imo, fwiw, i don't think there is an absolute number for WTSD for any style.

I was playing 30/20, similar to a 30/20, except you probably iso-raise a little lighter, like A5-A7o, k9o,etc.. and my WTSD was 36 with decent results at 1/2.

36 is pretty much gay.

lol

The WTSD is a pretty stake dependend stat. In my opinion Distajo you are leaving value and folding too much at 1/2(go for 38 imo). At the higher low/midstakes a low wtsd will be exploited by regulars. If your playing 1/2 on the other hand I think it is better to exploit your opponents passivity and the predictability of the tags at this limit and make more tight folds. I would even go so far to say that a WTSD of 42 is a leak at 1/2, but I'm a bit out of touch with the games, so I could be wrong.