I'm sure his professor would ask if he's ever read something that wasn't a voice for men

In Sweden the number of boys that get a high school degree with grades good enough for further studies are plummeting and i will look if there is a correlation with that and my theory that we have totally forgotten about the middle of the pack boys.


You are turning more and more into a L.K clone...

Sput, think your views on the plight of men and oppression by women will influence your approach to this topic at all?

The way you phrase your question i assume my answer doesnt matter since you have already made up your mind.

I know you deem yourself to be intellectual so maybe stop proving otherwise by immitating L.K and try to be more like say JJ that atleast tries to debate people with differing opinions without using cheap tactics.

Now there's a serious scientific paper topic if I ever saw one: I propose that we have forgotten about middle of the road male performers in grade school.



I hope you're better at coming up with a plausible, testable thesis statement irl than you are on the interwebs.

I'd like to know how a person becomes obsessed by identity? That's another way of saying 'egocentric' from how I frame human identity from our individuality.

What is egocentric about wanting to correct and prevent discrimination another person can or may face? Looking out for others is not typically an ego-centrical position.

You won't need to translate your paper, I'm assuming that your paper isn't a piece of original research, you could just give us the numbers. Like you have the numbers of declining High School degree grades among boys now right? Like before writing your paper you'd have some markers that the facts you are investigating are actually facts.

Not cheap tactics, ldo

lol hypocritnik

Sputty is this scientific paper part of formal study (if so what field/degree/specialisation), or are you doing it for your own interest?

Sure hope my institution has a subscription to the Sweedish Journal of Misandry Studies.

Yeah im studying sociology and the specialisation im writing this for is social work with emphasis on children and adolescents.

Can you show me the numbers that demonstrate boys doing high school diploma's to a level that get's them into further education are plummeting?

Of course when actual substance is brought up itt, nobody addresses it. Figures

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How can you eliminate negotiating salary?

may not be as cut and dry as you claim

http://www.nber.org/papers/w18511

indicates that ambiguity around wage negotiating favors men, while women may do slightly better than men in situations where it's clear that negotiating is allowed

First, the claim, while partly true, is inaccurate. There's clearly evidence that the pay gap is more than just negotiating differences.

Second, that brings up the bigger point - that a lot of the explained differences in the wage gap are also subtle forms of discrimination. If person X1 gets Y for doing a specific job at a specific quality but person X2 gets 7% less for doing the same job at the same quality - there's probably something flawed with the process that determines compensation.

What the flaws are is up for debate. For example, some would say its the fact that women are judged more harshly for certain characteristics than men.

I agreed that the US federal government has forced business owners into harshly judging women.

Just like the housing crisis of '08, the free market gets blamed for playing by the rules the government sets up while the government gets 0 blame.

Wat

While it is absolutely true that a negotiating gap isn't that big of deal... I'd like to point out that in organized workplaces this gap pretty much evaporates.

If owners are allowed to pit groups of workers against each other -- black -vs- white, male -vs- female, immigrant -vs- native, this religion -vs- that religion, etc.etc. the fact of the matter is everyone (except the owners, of course) losses. It's a situation where instead of the owners paying group A $100 and group B $100... by pitting the workers against each other, they can get away with paying group A $90 and group B $60.

If you are a male, and are concerned about being oppressed in the workplace, your best course of action is to make common cause with your sister fellow workers. Period.

sputnik has an ovious play here: copy-paste some MRA bull**** itt and call it his study, let his haters do his actual work when they correct him.

The problem is so does the gap between someone good at their job and someone not good at their job.

But I can only carry on so many arguments at one time - so I guess I shouldn't get into this too much.

But what about the average middle of the pack boys! If we discover how to make them above average then high school dropouts can be the new middle....

Please cite evidence showing problem transcends negotiation differences.

Your shock and awe at the example of somebody getting paid 7% less for doing the same job tells me you don't quite understand how hiring and salary negotiations work for many jobs in the U.S.

My current job, for example, I was made an initial offer on base salary 30% less than what I ended up accepting. So the difference in negotiations literally netted me an additional 30% for doing same job at exactly same quality (same person lol). This situation is very common (though not typically that high a difference). I have negotiated higher salary than initial offer on 3/4 of my post-college jobs

Other reasons for different salaries for same job include hiring someone for same job that has a higher base salary right now will typically cost more to aquire than someone currently making less.

Your narrow view on how offers work make me think you really need to re-visit this topic with more thought and would also like to see evidence dismissing claim that difference is due to more than men negotiating for higher salary more than women on avg

Citation pls