Those liberals all acting upset when people say and do things that are rightfully upsetting. What are they thinking?

Examples?

LOL

Where the **** was that skepticism when you were reading the article in the OP, farmboy?

I've seen it fizzle too many times to get my hopes up.

Continue eating your popcorn, but don't expect much.

More than likely, the liberals will tuck tail and run, screaming ad hominems and other logical fallacies along the way.

How about that kill -- ahem, "disposition" -- matrix, folks?

Yet, no impeachable offenses?

LOL Proph you are 100% on message in this thread

.... still crickets here, but Farmer McBumpkin is Johnny on the Spot demanding that Dids explain every offensive thing that's ever happened and why it was offensive.

Berate your way into slavery, one ignorance at a time.

right there destroys your entire "unfair" platform...

if your team weren't so full of biosphere destroying asshats, extreme expression (aimed at getting your attention, for once) wouldn't be needed.

like this?

all these insults were passed over in silence. I assume you're a liberal as well since you're jumping in to defend the guy calling people 'tards' and telling people they sleep with hookers and the mailman has slept with their wives.

That's the great thing about people like Cerveza. He will post something about how the other side is always insulting people immediately after he finishs insulting people.

I'll admit I'm not entirely clear if this is done on purpose to get more attention or if people like cerveza are literally completely unaware of their own behaviour. Unfortunately, they never real the answer.

I'm not clear why you would jump on Cerveza's bandwagon. I'm not aware of you being an obvious hypocrite like he is. I seem to recall you having value in someone who could argue something on merits rathar then just repeating empty partisan talking points. If this is the case, you've cleared misjudged who you appear to be supporting. I'm pretty sure you can find a better critique of the left then this collection of unsupported and largely silly stereotypes. (stereotypes is probably the wrong word since some of these are so much stereotypes as traits the author seemingly just fabricated out of the air.)

Isn't liberal deflecting the subject at hand? Whether or not liberals just mock opposing viewpoints, instead of engaging?

You all seem to be proving the author right, and I'm trying to give you an out.

Thanks for proving it again, Fly.

You're apparently also a ****ing idiot for not knowing what hypocrisy is.

Engage away. We're right here waiting for you to pick a topic your heroes are routinely wrong about. Dig in. Or stop bluffing.

I think there is some merit to the message, if maybe not the messenger.

I have issues with the runaway global warming sky is falling stuff. Look to an extent, we HAVE to be causing some warming, to get that 10 watts of light out of a 60 watt incandescent bulb, we dump about 250 watts of energy into heat, 75% of the gas a car burns is dumped overboard in waste heat.

But when I point out other possible factors in the issue the reply I get is "you're stupid" I continue to get "your stupid" until I trot out the chart that shows the real world measurements vs. the computer models, then they just run away.

Are we causing runaway global warming? Beats me. The models are inaccurate so I just don't know. But I do know a lot of people and companies are making billions selling carbon credits. Nobody on either side wants to talk about that.

Same with firearms. You cite a story and it gets dismissed as RW BS. So you go to the Brady website, pull out their citations, pull out the actual survey their citation cites, and they see that Brady has been fudging the numbers.

The reply, it they actually look at the raw data is "Why didn't the media explain that? Well the RW guy did, but you dismissed it, because the source was RW.

I'm tired of having poo flung at me, I'm using this thread to enjoy throwing some back.

for fun... my issues with the column.

I've literally never heard anyone make this claim. Absolute no liberal (pretty sure no one anywhere at anytime) has every said every caucasian is automatically successful. Its not a good sign when he starts off with such a whopper of a strawman.

It also makes you question what his point is. Yes... everyone has to work hard. The people who acknowledge "white privilidge" are simply saying imagine how much harder you'd have to work if you didn't face discrimination.

It would be helpful if the author actually laid out what the "liberal privilege" is. A lot of this kind of poor partisan rantings fail to be specific. When you actually have to define something it becomes much to easy to dismiss. I would be curious what the author would say I received via this privilidge that I wouldn't have received if I was a Republican? I mean - I have never received an apartment or a job on the basis of my political beliefs. They have never been discussed in this realm. He's not actually saying anything.

Where is the proof that liberals think they are nicer then others? And who are the others? I've commonly acknowledged that Mormons seem like some of the nicest people I've met? Are they liberals? What is this based on?

Again... this is based on what? Is there some polling that indicates that liberals think they are more compassionate then Conservatives think they are?

Who identified as a liberal or conservative in elementary school?!??! WTF is this guy talking about? And yes... probably most kids in elementary school only demonstrate kindness through verbal declarations... that's the thing about most elementary kids... they don't have money or control how they spend their time. Who reads this and doesn't laugh at this part?

Its funny how he says this like its a bad thing that some child would be applauded for their intelligence. A good conservative will never be applauded for their intelligence?!?!

So the dumb liberals in elementary school aren't challenging the rules of math and science like a good conservative?! I'd also like to know what the proof where critical thinking isn't encouraged. If a kid doesn't renounce addition then he's not being critical? If he doesn't reject the science of gravity he's "just regurgitating on cue?"

Is this a reference to evolution? A kid gets through school and gets As in Reading, Writing and Arithmatic and now he's "in a bubble of self-deception." Once again we're never discussing the alternative here. Let's keep in mind that conservatives go through the same schools, can get the same grades... but they're not living in a bubble of self-deception? What in the world could he possibly be basing this on? Who, besides Cerveza, finds this compelling?

Let's pretend that this is correct. What's the point? Conservatives make best sellers out of books that call liberals treasonous, "If the Liberals Had any Brains they'd be Republicans", etc. Fox News doesn't regularly assure their viewers that they are superiour to liberals? They regularly use liberal as a slur. Even if this was entirely true about liberals it would make liberals no different then conservatives.

Again... this is another one of those things that's silly to be partisan about. Wouldn't it be accurate to say most politicians are unlikely to apologize? That they constantly blame the other side even for things that are their own fault? Again, the writer is a kettle calling the pot black.

This is easily the most laughable. Has that professor somehow remained completely deaf to RW radio? Has he never heard of Ann Coulter? This guy is literally (as another stated) taking the worst characteristics of his party and pretending that its all on the other side.

same as above. Any montage from the Daily Show demonstrates this beautifully.

It would be interesting to see some substative critiques of liberal ideas. But this pablum has the opposite of its intended effect, imo, that it just makes the people posting it look like they're wildly projecting (or just masters of cognitive dissonance)

Listen - there is no doubt that we (by we I mean nearly everyone one 2+2) enjoys ragging on each other. Particularly in unchained. I actually don't care if someone says they think I'm stupid if they post a decent argument about why what I've said is dumb.

I'm not sure that you and I have discussed Climate Change. And I don't intend to make a big tangent here. But - in brief -- my issue with climate deniers is that these are typically people who don't question the world of science except in this one case... and nearly all the people questioning it all share the same political leaning. I have trouble taking people seriously who feel that in this one area of science they feel qualified to challenge the vast majority of the scientific world despite the fact that they are nearly unanimously unqualified to do so.

I don't partake in those debates too much because I can see there are people there who know the science much better then I do. Though when I have debated (like my brother - who is a born again/Rush Limbaugh loving/Sarah Palin worshipping dude - who was kicked out of multiple highschools when he was young and was never gifted academically) its completely clear so many lack even the basic fundamentals not only of climate science but even the basics of what science is and how it works.

That was a tangent though -- I posted above my problem with the essay. If the problem with people is that we insult others... then yes, we humans are guilty. If someone wants to write an essay that the problem with politics is people being rude to each other then it would be valid. If someone wants to post a partisan piece that says the problem with liberals is that they get a false sense of the world because they do well in school and they always lie and insult others... it deserves to be mocked as partisan and particularly ironic crap.

More names? You really want to keep this going? Keep proving OP's point.

You're a hypocrit for calling someone else an idiot after choosing to be a greenie yourself. I've seen very few rational, intelligent moderators on this site, not to imply that they are rare; I just haven't seen many. Why join their ranks? Plus, you'd either have to be crazy or not know what you're getting into if you want to moderate a site amidst the company of MissileDog, Fly, Alex, and their ilk; though, they may all only be the same person at different parts in their life journey. (lol!)

That's where the hypocrisy lies, since you need it spelled out for you. If, however, you still disagree, I apologize. I forget that I'm walking on eggshells around you liberals, for fear you'll take offense. I should know better than to expect any sort of mutual understanding between the two of us, when you cling onto even the tiniest misused word you can in order to disagree.

If I were surrounded by people that held authoritarian, fascist views all the time, I'd probably go crazy, too.

Its confusing what you think the OPs point is.

Is it your contention that liberals insult people and conservatives don't? I'm having trouble believing this is the road you're going down.

Please answer this, Proph-
When the OP calls people IN THIS VERY THREAD libtards, how does this fit into the OPs point?

What do you think about Obama's kill list, Jiggs? Do you believe unilateral decisions regarding murder, without due process, are acceptable? Also, why are my "heroes" -- whoever they are, not sure what you're getting at -- routinely wrong for opposing such a notion?

And, would you classify yourself a liberal?

If you debate on the topic, yet don't consider yourself a liberal, nothing is proven.

That's what makes the article fun. Try this:

Let's pretend that this is correct. What's the point? Liberals make best sellers out of books that call conservatives treasonous, "If the conservatives Had any Brains they'd be Democrats", etc. MSNBC doesn't regularly assure their viewers that they are superiour to conservatives? They regularly use conservatives as a slur. Even if this was entirely true about conservatives it would make conservatives no different then liberals.

Or maybe this:
Charges of black dependency make it sound as if every African American is automatically on welfare.

random bold phrases

It's a horrible thing about Obama and the libertarian critics are exactly right. I would only hope that any movement to impeach anyone for this is going to treat all politicians who endorse and have gone along with similar things like rendition and torture are treated and prosecuted the same.

Obama deserves a slap on the wrist compared to Dick Bush Corp.

so Proph and cerveza are just going to ignore post #90 then?

it's pretty long; i doubt they'll miss it.

i have no idea what point you're trying to make, or what makes that fun, but you DO understand that kurto's posts was true, right?

EDIT: just saw the thing about "white privilege" changed to "black dependency". do you have any idea what point you're trying to make? it seems like the whole post was just blind poo-flinging b/ after reading kurto's post you found nothing wrong with it.

Liberals insult people more than conservatives, because currently that party is the "flavor of the month" and the majority looks the other way. People in this thread -- whether they are conservative, liberal, or libertarian -- shouldn't be insulting one another. However, I try to stay out of it when they do, because often liberals are simply getting pushback from their silly, indoctrinated, "government can fix anything" beliefs.

Listen to the hateful, divisive rhetoric coming from MSNBC on the Ed Show or from Reverend Al Sharpton. It's nothing more than propaganda, yet some people eat it up; namely, liberals.