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10-05-2014 , 10:18 AM
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Originally Posted by DWetzel
So, it's at least better than Wrestlemania 15.
Considering the curtain jerker, I can only imagine what the main event was like
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10-05-2014 , 12:08 PM
This is an idea for rejuvenating the midcard scene in the WWE. It also helps in other ways, such as alleviating the issue of viewers thinking the WWE has too many hours of TV.

Choose one singles belt: either the US title, Intercontinental title, merge the two, bring back the TV title, create a new one, etc. The wrestler that has this belt either will be somebody who is great in the ring, or has shown sustained significant improvement in the ring. Somebody who is great in the ring is defined here as somebody who has matches that consistently keep the fans interested without damaging the overall product in the long run.

When this belt is on the line, the announcers don't talk about Twitter, or the Bellas, or anything else that implies the action in the ring is unimportant.

Two things will be different about these matches, in ring wise. First, they will have a time limit. Somewhere between 10 minutes and 20 minutes is good. Maybe if somebody pushes the champ to the time limit a few times it can be extended temporarily just for that challenger.

Second, these matches will often end with something other than a finisher. The wrestlers competing for these titles will often win matches with multiple moves in general. It is a detriment, not to mention boring, for nearly every single wrestler on the show to have only one move capable of winning a match.

This gives them new endings, and more diversity. The have so much program time, and so little variety in the matches they show. If you are going to do Kofi vs Ziggler 17, at least make it significantly different than 1, 7 or 15. This makes it easier for them to do so. It also gives wrestlers a place to go After Cena if they are still doing good work instead of just being ignored by creative and given nothing like they so often are after being involved with Cena.

Last edited by moorobot; 10-05-2014 at 12:13 PM.
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10-05-2014 , 12:40 PM
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Originally Posted by moorobot
When this belt is on the line, the announcers don't talk about Twitter, or the Bellas, or anything else that implies the action in the ring is unimportant.
This really should be standard for any match. The awful commentary is such a detriment to Raw currently.
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10-05-2014 , 01:17 PM
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This really should be standard for any match. The awful commentary is such a detriment to Raw currently.
If their market research indicates that it's valuable then it's not going away. But again, that's why there should be squash time to deal with all of that, when it's perfectly understandable and non-harmful to bury the match to a certain extent.

Something like...
A squash by a guy who doesn't currently have a story - push the network, push Twitter, push Total Divas, whatever. Unless it's a brand new guy in which case you should concentrate the commentary on putting over how impressive he looks against Joey Joe Joe Jr. Shabadoo. I personally won't like this, but if it's non-negotiable that they're going to do it, then this is the time to carve out for it. Still the commentators should stop themselves when they see the setup to finish happening, and at least put the guy's finisher over so that the segment does something for him.

A squash by a guy who has a story can be used on commentary as angle advancement. They can occasionally do the guest commentary thing, but it should be way, way less often than they currently do it.

When it's legit star vs. legit star, absolutely put the match over the entire time (that and any underlying angles the wrestlers are involved in).

I like moorobot's suggestions pretty much across the board.
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10-05-2014 , 03:56 PM
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Originally Posted by moorobot

Choose one singles belt: either the US title, Intercontinental title, merge the two, bring back the TV title, create a new one, etc. The wrestler that has this belt either will be somebody who is great in the ring, or has shown sustained significant improvement in the ring. Somebody who is great in the ring is defined here as somebody who has matches that consistently keep the fans interested without damaging the overall product in the long run.
I always liked the idea of the tv title. I would have it be defended on both raw and smackdown every week. Different opponents each match. It's something that doesn't really need an in depth feud or big storyline. Of course they can always develop one over time. It would probably work best if it was a heel that held the title. Somebody you want to see lose.
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10-10-2014 , 01:31 AM
There isn't a total divas thread so I'll put this here.


Holy **** are Daniel Bryan and brie tilting.

Lol he is using eastern medicine, aka acupuncture and waiting...to heal his neck/arm nerve damage. Guy won't ever return
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10-10-2014 , 01:41 AM
Once you have surgery all you can really do is rehab. I've had 3 shoulder operations and acupuncture was a huge relief. I doubt he is doing in in place of rehab so it can only help.
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10-10-2014 , 11:34 AM
Right, I think it's a pain thing, not a healing thing. It's actually a good idea for someone not wanting to get hooked on pain meds.

He's always been kinda granolay and eastern, so it wouldn't surprise me if he has some spiritual mumbo jumbo, but I doubt he places it over real doctor advice
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10-10-2014 , 11:51 AM
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Once you have surgery all you can really do is rehab. I've had 3 shoulder operations and acupuncture was a huge relief. I doubt he is doing in in place of rehab so it can only help.
No, no...

The guy literally can't hold a fork without a jolting pain shooting down his arm and can't pick up a picture frame(coiple lbs) above his head. Doctors are telling him he needs second surgery yet he wants to let it heal itself somehow... This is an old episode so he's probably had the surgery I imagine but it's annoying to watch

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10-10-2014 , 01:38 PM
Total Divas is like months behind reality, right? It's not like we're seeing Bryan's current state...
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10-10-2014 , 01:50 PM
What odds can I get on "Bryan surprise returning at the Royal Rumble only to be tossed out in 1.9 seconds" trolling?
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10-10-2014 , 02:17 PM
Pretty poor... they're having Brie do the Yes chant just because they know the crowd loves it. I think when Bryan comes back he'll be whole-****ing-showing it all over the place.

I think there's so much money in a Bryan/Lesnar Mania match- I don't get why the rumor is still Roman unless they're just still super iffy on Bryan's health.
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10-10-2014 , 03:21 PM
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Total Divas is like months behind reality, right? It's not like we're seeing Bryan's current state...
Truth. At this point in the show it should be 3-5 weeks after his actual surgery that he had in May(?).
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10-10-2014 , 04:40 PM
Which means that the story makes perfect sense with what we already knew about the progress of his recovery and the ambiguity about what was actually wrong.
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10-10-2014 , 07:26 PM
He had second surgery in may?

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10-10-2014 , 10:50 PM
He's only had one AFAIK. It was never for sure he needed a second and was reported a few weeks ago that he didn't need it.
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10-14-2014 , 09:23 AM
Never having to hear him say John Cena's name again sounds lovely to me.
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10-14-2014 , 09:50 AM
who will Bootista fight at Mania?


i'm hoping for Batista vs The Rock in some type of Movie Star match
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10-14-2014 , 09:59 AM
This has already been heavily rumored on the dirt sheets, but I'll spoiler it in case people haven't seen it:

Spoiler:
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10-14-2014 , 10:29 AM
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who will Bootista fight at Mania?


i'm hoping for Batista vs The Rock in some type of Movie Star match
The Miz is the biggest Hollywood star on the roster imo.
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10-14-2014 , 11:11 AM
Pretty sure big Dave is or will be completely done with the E soon. He had the breakout role in guardians and he's now cast as the main henchman in the new Bond movie
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10-14-2014 , 01:48 PM
I posted this in the other thread yesterday. How many people have me on ignore dammit.
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10-14-2014 , 02:44 PM
I'd probably laugh more than I'd admit if Rock was cutting promos on Bootista's wardrobe.
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