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10-02-2023 , 12:22 AM
WrestleDream may have been the best in-ring show of all time. None of the results were out of place either, though I'd have preferred Julia winning and I'm not sure we need Bucks/FTR 4 so soon when there are so many other good tag teams right now. Though it is probably good that FTR went over considering it looked like Mark Davis may have broken his wrist during the match.

Darby/Christian was a master class in storytelling. Hangman/Swerve was phenomenal. Danielson/ZSJ might be the match of the year. Go out of your way to watch those 3 for sure but the whole event was fantastic and is worth a watch.
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10-02-2023 , 12:42 PM
Loved seeing Swerve get a well deserved W against Hangman.

Darby/Xtian was fantastic...aside from the killshot on the exposed ring wood that Darby kicked out of which was absurdly dumb. Xtian has been great the last few months and a feud between Xtian/Wayne and Edge/Darby seems like it could make for really fun matches

Bryan/ZSJ was way better than I thought it was going to be. I went expecting it to be a bit boring because I'm not a huge fan of ZSJ's style which can get redundant but the match was really good.
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10-03-2023 , 02:48 AM
Can we talk about Moxley on commentary? Dude was entertaining as hell.
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10-03-2023 , 01:08 PM
Hearing a “Golden Lovers” chant in Seattle felt pretty magical.

Honestly, as long as he keeps booking them like this, Tony Khan can create as many new PPVs as he wants. Lol
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10-03-2023 , 01:15 PM
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the killshot on the exposed ring wood that Darby kicked out of
AEW on a bit of a roll lately with mind numbingly stupid kick outs.
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10-07-2023 , 11:48 AM
What's going on with MJF? Trying to get over childish insults like Tofu and Taint? I usually have a high tolerance for light-hearted, silly stuff in wrestling, but that and the Roddy/Cole skit were just too childish for me. The Christian/Edge arc seems like it will be awesome though.
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10-07-2023 , 01:22 PM
MJF actually addressed that in a reply to this

https://twitter.com/RyanOguri/status...29176622489875

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10-07-2023 , 01:37 PM
OK, that's good news. Lots of time until the next PPV and an MJF/Jay White program has massive potential and I want to see both bring their A-game.
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10-07-2023 , 04:19 PM
Tony and Warner Bros. doing their best to make AEW invisible this week.

Missed Dynamite this week due to the DVR snafu that had it scheduled at 4pm instead of the regular time.

And after that, Collision is actually starting an hour earlier today for some reason.
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10-07-2023 , 04:22 PM
And next week's Dynamite is Tuesday. So whatever the ratings bump might have been for Edge's debut, we'll never know.
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10-07-2023 , 05:15 PM
Ah, that's why NXT seems to be stacking the show.
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10-09-2023 , 03:58 AM
I guess Edge really isn't moving the needle at all. Only 2500 attendance for Collision.

Here's a really good Reddit thread detailing the woes ailing AEW right now. Meltzer seems like a massive AEW mark, so that's not good if they've lost him too.

Dave Meltzer: "They (AEW) are cold, boy are they cold and how to change that?"
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10-09-2023 , 09:35 AM
Most of the top comments in there are on point.

In-ring has been mostly great. Feel like all problems are logistical.

They've had 3 PPVs in the last month and a half. ROH and AEW need to be much more separated than they are. Way too frequently they build people and then nothing. (e.g. Miro hasn't had a match of any time since the meat-fest on September 3rd).

I especially liked this comment:
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imagine Roman Reigns in the opening match of a WWE PLE defending the NXT tag titles by himself against Joe Gacy's cronies. That's what AEW has their world champion doing.
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10-09-2023 , 01:07 PM
I agree with everything said above. I feel if you miss a single show, you're lost. Tony's booking is like Vince Russo on crack. He runs entire 3-6 month angles in a week or two. He flips guys or teams back and forth too many times (Sammy turned for what, the 3rd time in 3 years a few weeks ago, Ricky Sparks was a baby face for a few months, the BBC were heals for two feuds). It seems like he has a favorite new toy or two every few weeks and forgets all the rest. With all the talent they have, he needs someone competent to come in and take over the booking. There needs to be a lot more emotional investment in these great matches. And reserve the blood for when it'll make an impact.
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10-11-2023 , 12:52 AM
Dynamite was ****ing awesome tonight.

As for this sudden online grumpiness towards the product, haters gonna hate.

Overall, the shows have been consistently great. There’s always room for improvement, but a lot of the comments on squaredcircle are overblown. Feels like half of of the complainers don’t even watch what’s happening, and their comments reflect the product 6+ months ago rather than now.

Ticket sales being low seems like a direct result of advertising (or lack thereof). This is one area where AEW desperately needs improvement. When WWE comes to town, you KNOW about it.
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10-11-2023 , 06:17 AM
Sad to see Swerve lose after beating Hangman. When he was paired with Bryan I almost thought that he'd get another big win. Silly me.

I think there's a lot more negativity to AEW because Da Meltz has written a few articles recently about how bad it's been doing lately. Also, it really hasn't been good at all. Wrestle Dream was great and ppvs in general are but the weekly shows are pretty bad
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10-11-2023 , 03:21 PM
Swerve lost BECAUSE of Hangman. This is going to be a feud for the ages. These guys are perfect for each other.

I don’t understand how you can praise the PPVs, but then say the shows connecting them are “pretty bad.” They’ve been way better with the builds and nearly everything is linked together now with multiple weaves. The only complaint I understand is too much ROH stuff creeping in again.

But whatever, to each their own. But the more flip-flopping I see, the more I agree with Danielson. Fickle, indeed.

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10-11-2023 , 07:12 PM
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I don’t understand how you can praise the PPVs, but then say the shows connecting them are “pretty bad.” They’ve been way better with the builds and nearly everything is linked together now with multiple weaves. The only complaint I understand is too much ROH stuff creeping in again.
because ppvs are all in ring action which is fantastic. weekly shows have more elements and they're terrible at all of them.

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But whatever, to each their own. But the more flip-flopping I see, the more I agree with Danielson. Fickle, indeed.
or maybe AEW just isn't consistent. It's not like they can't put out a good show but they actively decide not to a lot.
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10-11-2023 , 11:18 PM
"They've been way better with the builds"

Umm wat?

The last 3 PPVs were WrestleDream, All Out, and All In

WD is just a collab show where the whole build is "hey, this guy that wrestles in Japan is good, he should wrestle this guy". At most, maybe 3 matches had any build whatsoever, and incidentally, happened to be among the best matches on the show (Darby v. Cage and Swerve v. Hangman). Here's a novel idea: maybe build a whole card of matches like that.

All In was notorious for being a cluster**** with no card really in place until the last second and All Out couldn't possibly have a build b/c it took place a week after All In.

These are the PPVs with good builds???

wtj loves AEW, and that's cool, but he's part of the 500k who are gonna watch week in and week out no matter what, and for some reason Khan is only ever listening to and creating the product for those people. How is AEW every gonna grow if he isn't trying to remedy legit complaints (which have been enumerated here and in the reddit thread numerous times)?

I was excited about Miro coming back, but it was the exact same **** it always is. He shows up in June/July with consistent appearances for about 4 weeks, then disappears, does a PPV, disappears, etc. Why should I give a **** about watching the shows when this repeatedly happens with all but a couple of Khan's boys? Miro might come back for a PPV and put on an awesome match, but then I don't really need to see any of the weekly shows, I'll just come back for the PPVs (which have mostly been excellent).

Another good example is Danielson v. ZSJ. The only reason I even know it's a dream match is b/c I read some forums and stuff and have heard a bit of the legend of ZSJ. But the casual fan is gonna have zero idea why this is really a big deal. There are so many of these matches where random guy appears from Japan, and unless you're really tuned in to the industry, will have no clue what's going on. Again, amazing for the 500k and Khan, but a turn off for the rest who just want to tune in to AEW stuff and figure out what's going on but it's impossible b/c:

1. rando shows up from Japan
2. guy holding ROH belts shows up and you have no clue what ROH is
3. guy shows up who had been off TV inexplicably for 3 months and you barely remember what happened
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10-12-2023 , 01:43 PM
I know Tony wants to be an alternative to WWE, but he doesn't have to be the exact opposite of it.

Vince books like nobody remembers anything because he doesn't.

Tony books like everyone knows everything about everyone in the industry.
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10-26-2023 , 12:27 AM
Boom. MJF vs Kenny Omega, this Saturday on Collision.

Really love how everyone is gunning for Max and the belt right now.
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10-26-2023 , 01:38 AM
Joe: "I want my rematch for the AEW title". Why does he get a rematch? Dude lost and shook MJF's hand afterward.

Omega vs. MJF will be great but the way to get there was hilariously bad and capped off by Omega being a terrible promo and getting crickets while talking.

There's still great heat for Bryan vs. Okada and I hope we get that again some day.

Juice vs. MJF was fine and the main event tag was good. Skipped everything else.
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10-26-2023 , 01:43 AM
Joe will tag with MJF to defend the ROH titles, his price is a rematch. Seems logical enough.

I imagine we get some kind of screwy finish against Omega, setting up another match for a PPV down the road.
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10-26-2023 , 01:48 AM
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Joe will tag with MJF to defend the ROH titles, his price is a rematch. Seems logical enough.
It was the entitled way he phrased it that was odd to me, "I get my AEW title rematch" like he was always going to get it at some point because ??? I guess you had to be there . I do agree getting there is logical enough.

I actually thought they're setting up for a 4-way match some day. MJF, Jay, Joe, Kenny. That'd be a really fun match too
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10-26-2023 , 02:15 AM
I don’t love 4-ways, but that match would rule.
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