Deuces just pm him that question in the future.
Can anyone confirm or deny that royals for O8 count in that March promo? I was under the impression they do...

Anybody know how many entrants for event 1 so far today? Will be playing tomorrow, just wanted to get a feel for how many runners will be in the event.

Total is193 on the board but I think that's for both

THR dealer who I believe is credible said that they had discussed internally that it would be better to jack up the BBJ and try to get it closer to $1 million than to fund monthly promos. They believe that this will cripple the poker rooms at the tracks. So instead of promos like gas cards/gift cards they are doing these royal flush promos because they don't have to pay out as much and they can then add more of the promo money to the BBJ so that it goes up faster.

They do. That's worth about $0.50 a hand in O8... assuming you play every hand with a possible royal draw, which is mostly bad hands.

There were 181 today. I would expect tomorrow to be at least 50% more.

Yeah, but the royal thing is terrible, since no one comes hoping to hit a royal. They would be better off doing an hourly hot seat one day a week or something. I heard a dealer say last time that it 4 or 5 royals a day were expected. Make that $1000 to a random person an hour and people are more likely to think they might actually win it, not to mention it would help the late night shift.

I agree, the day specific royal flush promos are the worst, especially for grinders. So few benefit from the BBJ. I'm not sure if there is a way to quantify the so called "increased" traffic to the room due to a larger BBJ but it seems marginal at best so it doesn't really benefit regulars who bear the brunt of paying for the BBJ.

I don't know if I would characterize them as "grinders" but good poker players are much less likely to get BBJ due to the fact that normally when one has AA or KK, one is more likely to make it to make it too expensive for opponents holding hole cards that could produce straight flush or holding QQ, JJ, TT to continue with the hand and see both hands qualify. Since the majority of deals that would produce a BBJ at the river never make it that far with two hands qualifying for BBJ, so no one ever even knew what they missed out on.

Do most "grinders" play for the promotions? I really don't know, and assumed most of them are going to play anyway because they are degens.

Alex, most of the time lower stakes tables hit the BBJ due to more of them being in the room on any given day, plain and simple.

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1) Tampa Hard Rock doesn't know what a grinder is. To them, you are a degenerate and you're going to show up day in and day out anyways, despite the promotion they run.

2) Gamblers love bbj. It's all about a dollar sign to them, and they completely lack the statistical knowledge to understand they'll never hit it. That being said, it drives gamblers to a cardroom in droves. This is both a benefit for the grinders (softer games with people calling massive bets Pre-flop for the potential to hit), and for the casino in the form of drastically increased rake produced.

That's it boys and girls, that's the future of poker. If you don't like it you should move up to stakes where the bbj isn't taken, or take your business somewhere that caters to grinders, killing the softest games in the country.

One dealer at THR said that the limit games hit a lot of BBJ, and some of them conspire together to only play TT, JJ, QQ, KK, AA, or suited straight flush hole cards, and everyone else is to fold. All players who get one of the above agree to min bet (or check) and play until no BBJ is possible. Hand count per hour is very high.

Bad Beat was hit tonight. Quads JJs > Quad 10s.

what table limit?

2/5.....first guy shoves $700 into $200 pot and once the next guy said call we all knew it. lol at the third guy in the pot who had been betting trying to steal the pot earlier in the hand.

Was playing at table 8 when the jackpot hit. Some black dude had apparently just got up from the BBJ table and his seat was still empty when it hit. He was steaming pretty hard.

Also, wtf on WPT Event #3?????? The structure is this--The only action in the hand is preflop and you can either fold or go all-in. No other options. Despite this, a multi table with only like 65 players lasted 4+ hours. Can you imagine how boring that must have been? Look down, AA? No? Fold. Repeat for 4 hours. Ugh.

In that case, the BBJ would not have hit if he had stayed, since there would have been one more player in the hand.

I'm not saying he was rational, just that he was ticked off.

Other funny note, table that hit the jackpot was only barely more loud than the jagoff yelling "ship it" at I'm guessing table 28 or 27 every time he won a pot.

What time did it hit Saturday/Sunday? What table number? Any Regs?

130 am on table 50. All regs except one kid in from hollywood for the night.

It went 6.5 hours and it was awesome.

I was playing 2/5 PLO next to the table when it hit. There's always that brief moment of "****" when you hear the yelling and celebrating...then the smile and congrats .

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how money was the BBJ?

It was around 442,000.