best cash games are in Canada, its worth the drive to the BC area.

I don't think they spread 2-5 anywhere else, but not a big deal, just think you get an extra dollar when you steal blinds. that **** can add up lol..

If you're doing well at the Muckleshoot, stick to it, Tulalip 3/5 is more aggressive than Muckleshoot. Sure, there are fish at Tulalip, but most of the players there display some semblance of fundamentals, whereas many of the players at the MS are clueless.. Not sure about Snoqualmie, its too far from me, actually Tulalip is too, but they have a pretty nice outlet mall there

will you drive me there? lol

played 3-5 at the muckeshoot last Saturday was overall a good time. Haven't played much live poker in the last few years but the games seem so much tighter now than i remember them. One good thing about being an unfamiliar face is that the regs think they can run you over. They go out of their way to win pots off you and it is pretty easy to get your money in good. I will be back in the coming months.

I agree completely. Washington poker is borderline horrendous.

Just too nitty or what?

This sounds more like Tulalip IMO.. I haven't played at the Muck since August so who knows maybe the internet pros have infested the place

Well since I make a living playing live poker in Washington I must be amazing. The truth is you just have to know where to go and when to go to find the best games. If you're a lower stakes player the 1/3nl games at Tulalip can be very juicy. For higher stakes players you can't beat Monday night at Snoqualmie (3-4 games of good 5/10 nl action). Tulalip has good 5/10 action on Thursday's and Saturdays, with some PLO mixed in. The only good time to go the Muckleshoot for higher stakes players is on the first Sunday of the month (get their early).

On any given night you might not have that great of a game (I've been in some horrendous games in Vegas, even during the WSOP). But with a big sample size and choosing the right days you will find Washington poker is legit. Is it has good as it was 3-5 years ago? No, but neither is LA, Vegas, or the internet. Players are better and bad players have run out of money.

Enough of the Washington bashing, from what I've heard and experienced the games in BC are very hit or miss and only are good during their big tournaments. Thus, a bunch of Canadians always travel down to Tulalip to play in our games.

BC is a great place for cash games, theres the rich HK chinese, the eastern european outfit guys, and the gambling greeks.

Snoqulamie is the best though for cash games, you get that Eastside money up in there.

The laws haven't changed recently, have they? Do you mean Spread Limit?



Serious question = Why?
Yes, I understand that there are some very soft games, bad players with deep pockets, but that can be found almost anywhere poker is played. With casinos 20 - 50 miles apart, only a handful of decent-sized rooms in the greater Puget Sound area, gas prices ~$4/gal. (a serious impact on your BR driving from Tulalip to Snoqualmie to Muckleshoot), a legislature that despises poker players, a horrendous cost of living due to obscene taxation....ugh, I could go on and on....why would someone that CAN make a living playing poker choose WA as the place to do it?

I grew up in Washington and 90% of my family lives here including my wife and kids. Moving isn't really an option but even if it was I'm not sure where I would go. Vegas (lots of cardrooms, but sucky place to live). LA (several good card rooms, but expensive and crowded). There are plenty of states where playing for a living isn't even an option. I'm not saying Washington state is an ideal place but for me it works just fine. I'm also active with the PPA and I'm confident that we can get the online law reversed (especially when the state sees how much money can be made off of it).

On the whole Tulalip 3/5 NL is a much stiffer challenge than that at the MS IMO. More fish at the MS makes it the better place to make a living.

how high are we talking?

i heard that hideaway spreads 10/20 o8 on mondays. the secret's out.

yeah? i will definitely start going if it goes regularly

5/10 spread limit

They used to have a big limit game that went on Tue./Thur./Sat sometimes. 100/200 w/over buttons. Usually was a mix game between holdem and O8. This game still probably goes but is usually short handed.

Yeah. That game is lolbad.

Does 30/60 o8 still go on Tues/Thurs? I may have asked that earlier in the thread, if so, I apologize.

Maybe its because of the stakes and times that I play. I'm not rolled for 3/5, and I work fri-mon nights. I dislike the Tullalip 1/3 because it often plays nitty, and a nitty game where they only let you buy in 66bbs really sucks. If you have a 10k plus roll and don't mind driving over an hour to the next casino, you might be able to get good enough game selection to do well. Maybe you are just 10x better than me, who knows.

I do know that I went to Edgewater on Tuesday morning 8am with one table running full of old men, the kind of table that should be an enormous nit fest, instead it was one of the best games i've ever played. 150bb buy ins made it fairly deep stacked, and there was an all in and a call at least once every three hands. In 2 hours I won 3 hands and made $600. Obv anecdotal, but I've rarely seen a game like that at Tullalip, and never in the morning or on a weekday.

In 5 sessions over 2 days only one table was light on action but still profitable. Overall I made $1200 in under 10 hours. I am eager to get back, and dreading the nitfest session of 1/3 I'm about to put in at Tullalip. Oh well, adjust and hopefully exploit.

I can understand frustration if you're working around a work schedule or short roll, but if not you're just lazy and not game selecting well. There is a good game pretty much every night of the week. One of the best poker cities in the country IMO.

At this point in my life i just play recreationally for a little extra spending money. I can tell you however there isn't a night of the week a "pro" shouldn't sit down and crush the 3-5 games in this state. I have sat in some 5-10 games that were pretty tough where I felt a little over matched. I do agree with you that the poker is pretty good it just sucks you have to drive around so much. I really wish Omaha caught on at all the casinos that would be fun.

The list starts on Sunday, so call ahead

Ahh game selecting. So at the 1/3 level in this area I have the choice of 1-4 (usually 2 on non weekends) 1/3nl tables at Tullalip, and nothing else. At that table they will grace me with the ability to buy in with 67bb max, although many players will buy in for 33bbs. The table will be full of bad nits and loose passives, but lag play will be of no use because of the small stack sizes.

Somehow I'm missing how this is a poker mecca. The structures of games are bad, there are not that many tables available at any level, and the action is poor at the 1/3 level.

I'm going to be working very hard to build a consistent limit H or O8 game at either $50/100 or $100/200 depending on who I can get to commit. The game will have to be by appointment at first since the high stakes players and businessmen don't really just show up unless someone calls them. I'll be making the calls/texts to try and make it happen.

If your interested please PM me and I'll put u on the list.

Travis

Could anyone give me a quick rundown of the 2-5 or 3-5 nl (spread limit) games at the following casinos:

Muckleshoot
Tulalip
Snoqualmie

During weekdays/week day nights/week end

Are there any other viable options at casinos not listed? What is the rake? What do they offer for rakeback/casino points w/e? Do people make a living playing in these games? What exactly are the buy in/betting rules?

Any information you can provide would be very much appreciated.

any place is good, all you pretty much have to do is play ABC poker and you will be ok. But Snoqulamie is best, if you can fade a few beats against the fish you can eventually take them down

I played some 2-5 SL at Sno about a week ago on Friday when I was there on a lark. The game I was in was very good and people were calling for table changes to the "better" game because there were 2 competent players at our table (not including me). I stayed since it was a plenty good game. 4 loose-passives (fish), 2 tight-passive (people who read a book once on poker), and 3 tight-aggressive (me and two others).

If that's not a very good game for big-bet poker, I'm not sure what is. Plenty of straddling by the TAGs (including me) and lots of 4-5 way calling the straddle. Big PF pots.