Service= hilarious, rake= high, Asians= pai gow

Rake is not high. It's $4 in most Holden games. Tell me where it's lower.

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The full jackpot? (They used to have a smaller jackpot for aces full beaten by quads and a bigger for quads beaten.)

Yes, full jackpot during those hours. Probably not permanent though.

Confirmed

Hey guys, just wanted to give a quick trip report from when I came out to the Left Coast for my cousin's wedding a couple weeks ago:

Arrive w wife at around 9 and get on list for 6-12 and join open 1-2 slhe game and wife gets right into 3-6 game. First floor I notice is 'M' and I chuckle to myself after remembering the comments in here about him. First hand of SL 3 people are all in pre, best hand was 88 which lost to J10suited. My first playable hand is AQoff otb; couple limpers I raise to 13, SB flats, everyone else folds. Flop comes off J10x and I fold to c/r and get shown the 93suited. Welcome to Cali! Moments later I'm called to my 6-12 game.

The table was great- friendly and loose, but not nearly as aggressive as I expected. Many times players would beat each other into the pot with their calls, but nobody seemed to be making plays. It doesn't get much better than friendly, loose, predictable players. I was dealt KQ 3 times in first 45 minutes and made top pr or better every time and got at least one caller all the way to river every time. People seemed to overcall a ton in this game. Although I was never dealt any pair above 10s, I ran quite well post flop and managed to win about 350 in the 5 hours.

Last hand of the night I'm dealt KJ spades in MP after folding for a couple orbits and raise a limper. 5 to the flop which is Qs x x. I ch/c. Turn is 8s and I ch/c again. River is the beautiful 9s and I lead out, get called in two spots and win a decent pot and rack up. Didn't seem to be many at the table that I would expect to be on 2p2, maybe one or two at most. Tableside food service was a nice option and the room had a friendly, informal vibe to it. The ghetto stuff didn't faze me, it gave the room some character. One thing that did faze me a bit was having employees playing and having a dealer hand me chips and ask 'can you pass these to him?'

Wife lost only 50, which is breakeven for her as far as I'm concerned and my 5 hour excursion covered my cousin's wedding present and a decent meal in SF. Just as important, the people were enjoyable to be around. Looking forward to my next trip out Left.

Glad you had fun!

Thanks! They don't have player comps do they? Or any sort of 20 gets you 50 in chips for first time players like some other CA rooms? Also, I had seen on the website that 'lowball' was dealt and I'm curious which kind, as I have been playing a fair amount of fl2-7 td online. Although I figured it is probably more like SL A-5, if they even spread it.

what's the general skill difference between the 6-12 game and the 15?

No comps of any kind. However, you'll note that the drop is the smallest of the SFBA major cardrooms - $4 NFND for most games (jackpot is house funded out of that).

The skill difference from 6/12 to 15/30 is significant, but SSLHE still applies. There's no table changing at 15/30 and many seat changes will br contested, pkus the game is big enough so that pros will play it, and the atmosphere is more serious. Play is tighter and more aggressive on average but the best 15/30 games are better than the worst 3/6 games. Likewise, the worst 15/30 games are worse than the best 30/60 games. The drop is really low - at 4 NFND, this is the equivalent of 0.5 BB/hr, which makes the game pretty beatable.

I will say this about employees playing in games: I think it's bad policy to let them play in a game when there's a long line for the game.

Right now there a ton of people waiting for 15/30. There are two floor men and a prop in the game. That kind of rubs me the wrong way.

Is the prop on duty? If so, that may not be the best, but if they pull him out of the game they still have to keep paying him to some extent or it's not fair to him. Assuming the floor are off-duty I can't see why they should have to get second-class citizen treatment vs anyone that walks in off the street.

I believe there exists a rule about the prop. It was/is selectively enforced.

Rules question: dealer doesn't move the button, I post BB twice in a row but notice it just as he finishes dealing.

"Wait," I say, "I was the BB last hand. I should be the SB."

SB agrees.

"Oh, ****, you're right," dealer agrees, and he now stops the action.

Two people have now folded, one raised, and a coldcall.

1. Hand is a misdeal even with the action?
2. Hand would have been a misdeal without the raise, but is no longer since the raise occured?
3. Hand would have been a misdeal without the folds, but is no longer a misdeal since people acted?
4. Hand would have been a misdeal only if dealing hadn't finished yet?

On top of this, does it matter when I started objecting (i.e., when I first opened my mouth, dealer had just pitched the last card, but EP may have folded already) or is it only when the dealer calls for action to stop (after raise before coldcall), or does it only matter when action does stop?

on east coast, hand is a misdeal even with action. at oaks...im curious what happened

What actually happened was quite boring. The dealer apologized and said it was too late, and I shrugged it off.

At bay101, once there's action the hand stands and you have to continue.

Stay classy, Oaks.

There was either feces or a large wad of chewed up steak in one of the urinals today. I did not figure out which one it was.

This happened to me twice in 3 hours on Tuesday at Oaks 15/30.

First scenario I was asked to post the big blind by the dealer twice during the rotation of the dealing and I never posted chips, half paying attention while talking to a player to my right.

The player to my right posted his small blind and once he realized that the he had posted his small blind last hand, there had been a raise and a call.

After the dealer was unnecessarily rude about the situation, the floor was called and it was ruled that the house would "make the pot right" with house money and pay for my big blind, while small blind was forced to pay again.

Pretty wacky ruling.

Does anyone else get a sore ass from sitting on those cheap chairs?

I played for about seven hours last night, and it feels like my tailbone is bruised or something. Sheesh...

You sure you didn't get a sore ass from getting spanked repeatedly?

Ha! No.

Anyone here who plays 100max regularly willing to discuss the game/hands with me?

Hit me up on PM if you want to do lunch sometime.

Someone must be reading this thread; the Oaks got new chairs for all the tables this morning.

How nice are they?? Swiveling? Adjustable?