I used to work Loss Prevention for a retail store. It's not uncommon to handle petty theft and other minor* discretions internally. Paper work and involving authorities is a pain in the butt, especially for, say, someone stealing $100 or the like. So it's not surprising to hear the MDL doesn't report that stuff. That's not covering anything up it's just not wasting time and state resources on minor infractions.

No possible way. Robbery is a violent felony that involves a forcible taking of property from a person. Perhaps you mean petit larceny?

It's NOT a big deal, which is exactly the point. I do not work for MDL and I have no idea why you'd think that based on my pointing out someone complaining about free money.

This is what happened: guy gets $1 for showing up to MDL. Guy then comes to 2+2 to complain that it wasn't $10k or whatever. I said that his sense of entitlement was silly and that if he's complaining about the amount of money he's given for showing up, then there aren't any real problems he's encountered.

Then he said "it's not a poker room promo" as if that were relevant. Your response was just as coherent/relevant.

You congratulated mike for the response that was given. Thats why he pointed out it wasn't a poker only promo - mike had nothing to do with it.

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They should have just given a message in the envelope that said sorry you did not win. Giving a dollar is insulting! It's like giving a waitress a 10 cent tip.
I asked if you work there because you appear to defend MDL no matter what they do. You also imply they are giving away free money when most of it comes from the bad beat reserve which is already the players money. You also think they are so generous giving a dollar an hour comps when they are raking up to $5 instead of the standard $4.

I take it you are not familiar with Asian culture. Red envelopes are not for "prizes" that you "win".

So which is it? Is it coming from the bad beat reserve or is it not a poker promotion?

And if it is coming from the bad beat reserve, how is $4 "standard" when MDL's closest competitors are CT at (I think) $6+$1 and DP at (I think) $4+$2? (I haven't looked at those rake numbers in probably 9 months so I don't know if they've changed in that time frame.)

I think you're mistaking "defending no matter what" for helping to differentiate between legitimate concerns and identifying a few people in this thread who are attempting to give poker players in general a bad reputation for being a bunch of implacable whiners.

If you have a legit gripe let's hear it so that Mike can help. The people who complained about line jumping when it was a problem or the people who are worried about inconsistency in rulings relating to, for instance, running it twice in multiway pots had/have legit gripes. The people complaining about receiving a dollar for simply showing up to the casino do not.

Moving players from existing tables allows the latecomers to get into the game earlier .. advantage them

Yes, I'm a tournament player and I expect to get moved .. much later in the tourney as the field shrinks .. not in the 3rd level as it is expanding.

I arrived on time and have been at my table since the tourney started .. I've established an image, I've learned a lot about the players at the table and adjusted my play accordingly and may even have some momentum going in my direction .. all of that is lost when moved to a table just to accommodate latecomers.

Getting moved at any time is disruptive, which is exactly why it should not be done until it is necessary .. as the field is shrinking or to balance tables .. not to get tables started.

Not to mention that this is not standard practice in most casinos .. certainly never done in any of venues or the hundreds of tourneys I've played in. It may be "getting to be" but it is not yet and hopefully never will be. And it is certainly not done for the benefit of the most of the players .. only the latecomers.

I rarely speak out about anything, but this is just not acceptable and it is making me consider not playing any more tourneys at MDL until I can be assured that it will not happen again. I'm not sure I want to run the risk of being routed from my established seat at the whim of the TD for the sake of starting a new table.

Yes .. not a great argument .. I didn't enter the tourney and arrive on time to watch the clock tick. Most tournament players would agree that this is not the best solution to get a new table started.

How is coming in late and therefore by definition with shorter stacks relative to the blinds than you started with an advantage to them?


20 min levels there right? So in an hour you've established an image. That's what, 30 hands or so?

This I DO agree with. The table should be ready to go, and if they're *going* to move players to start a table then as soon as the players sit the play should start. Even if it's 3 handed.

Getting them a seat yes - but benefit? Again, I think late comers are handicapping themselves by coming in with short stacks.

Overall, I really do agree with you, its just some of the arguments you're using are not really that good.

If they have more than 5 people standing there then they should simply check them all in and seat them all at once with a dealer who is already ready to deal.But they do still need to balance tables and if they ONLY have 5 people there then pulling a few from other tables to balance does make sense.

But the existing players I think should be last to be pulled not first.

I don't know about getting moved to a table of latecomers, but what definitely doesn't make sense to me is losing your stack, then rebuying....only to find yourself getting moved to a different seat. There's no reason for that. Let me rebuy and remain at my table.

This makes sense as an anti-collusion measure. If you're at a table with a partner you might be losing to him on purpose. If you buy back in and remain at your same seat you can just continue to add chips to his stack.

Not saying YOU would do this - just saying that could be the reason for the rule.

That is one of the differences between a rebuy and re-entry. In a rebuy, you would remain at your seat and rebuy into the tourney (from the dealer or a floor person). In a re-entry, you are treated as a new player entering the tourney and are supposed to be assigned an available seat at random. However, in many instances in a re-entry tourney that is full, the only seat available will be the one you just busted out of, in which case you will be get sent back to that seat.

See replies in "red" above

The standard rake in AC, Vegas, Del, PA and everywhere else I know of is $4 max.

"One Obtusely Strange Dude' is a good title for you and I will no longer bother to reply to anything you say.

Where does the promo money come from? Is there a jackpot rake on top of the $5?

^Yes, it is $5+$1 for jackpot games.

How do they prevent the victim from reporting the crime?


--klez

Hi Guys,

My brother lives in Adams Morgan. I want to come visit him/play a decent amount of NL at MDL. If someone would be so kind to pm me the answers to the following questions, they will earn a significant amount of instant good karma run good (ime). I will also look them up if/when I come out and I will ship them a lucky 100 chip or drinks on me the entire time I play there (you choose):

Is this place safe?
What NL do they offer (stakes, buyins, days/hours)?
What's a good/safe hotel to stay at nearby/possibly in the direction of Adams Morgan?

Thx in advance!

Someone just answered all my questions in a pm. Thx.

No chips necessary:
1) Yes
2) 1/2 pretty much 24/7. 2/5 the same. Higher stakes in the evenings and weekends. 1/2 BI is 100-300. See the bravo link on the first post of this thread for current active games and waiting lists.
3) You're 45 mins from Adams Morgan in the DC area. "The Hotel" at Arundel Mills is close to the casino, but basically - google is your friend for that one.

Tyvm.

http://www.marylandlivecasino.com/li...otel-partners/

So you're whole thing is "I'm used to tournaments being run in a certain way and I refuse to accept change" it seems.

Well get used to it because tournaments have been changing since they were conceived and will continue to do so. In almost every major way, it changes to the advantage of the casino hosting the event. And after 'chipgate' at the Borgata, its going to change again in some ways depending on how much the Borgata winds up out of pocket.

That's where stabbing comes into play.

Boy, who knew MDL was such a dark operation?