tx for the tip.


i've only played 25/50 once, but yes, it was full of nitty regs. they all liked to limp and c the flop and was basically playing fit or fold. stole from them a few times by just raising in LP when a few of them limped.

My post got deleted b/c I included a request that was not allowed, so am re-posting the benign questions I still have:

1. I'm only in town for 3 days...looking to get in as much action at 5/10 (USD...so whatever the equivalent is in HKG) and higher as I can. What casino(s) are my best bet? Wynn? And where else...?

2. Assuming I put in most of my action at the Wynn, where should I stay (the Wynn is cost-prohibitive and is booked for my dates anyway)...hopefully I can get something 4-star or higher within walking distance for $150 / night or less (or at least that's the hope...)

3. Any 2+2'ers stationed out there for the next week or so who want to get dinner?

You'll find multiple 50-100 (about US 6-12) games at Wynn, depending on which days you play. There will also be multiple 25-50 games (about US 3-6). Since the games play larger (and deeper) here than Vegas for example, you might find them to be big enough for you.

I'll answer your other questions in the China/Macau thread in the travel forum.

150.00 USD = 1,167.74 HKD


for that price you will have to settle with a room at the old Lisboa, they are around 850HKD if booked trough travel agency ...

Teddy the Wynn is the only casino with games 5-10 and higher USD. A lot of casinos have 25-50 HKD games including Starworld, Grand Lisboa, City of Dreams, and Venetian.

Make sure you book your hotel online as the walkin asking price is often double. I stayed awhile at Casa Real which is 3-4 star. I think it's $80 USD a night weekdays and a little more on Weekends and close to the Wynn, Starworld, and Lisboa.

How about the 5/10 equivalent at Wynn Macau, how does that game compare to the 5/10 at Bellagio... softer? And taking into account the higher rake at Wynn Macau, which game is better value for the poker pro?

The game is softer factoring in rake but not necessarily when factoring in travel expenses.

Are they? Are you taking all year into consideration then? What I have understood is that games in Macau are very good at holidays and weekends, but pretty nitty big portion of the year.

Games are good all the time, considering you know how to play cards...

Yea, but we are not talking about that. We are comparing Macau games to Vegas games.

I dont play much 5-10 but the 5-10 at the Rio during the World Series was the worst 5-10 I've ever played. I played it two days and spent the rest of the month playing video games. I assume the regular 5-10 at Bellagio is also one of the worst around so yes the 5-10 in Macau is better. Woot. Centurion.

I dont know about that ;; if a good game means a profitable game .. then no games are not good all the time .. doesnt matter how good you are .. if you are surrounded by more than decent players you are not bound to make as much money as when surrounded by complete idiots who are just there to lose some money and get drunk , me thinks

You could say that if a game is running it's good because good players won't play in a -EV game. This isn't true either as some people here either really love to play or have nothing else to do so they play every day whether the game is good or not. This occurs a lot in the 20-40 game at Commerce. If there's no good game a lot of people have to wait out the traffic so they play anyway sometimes all with -EV.

So I played a few days in Macau and had been at the table for a few hours before I realized how much they were raking us: 5% capped at 200 HKG...that's like $28 USD, which was reached with most pots that went to the flop. I'm guessing this is common knowledge ITT. Still: WTFBBQ.

the rake should not really be an issue .. wether winning or losing ... when losing you lose just as much with or witouth high rake .. when winning .. it is the losing player that pays rake not you .. you get your initial bets back plus the losing players bets minus the rake ..;

and taken into account that you should not tip in Macau .. it should be ok

200HKD max on 5% means the pot was at least 4k HKD so if you win you know get 3800 HKD if it was heads up starting preflop this means you put in 2k HKD to win 1.8k HKD wich is not bad at all I think .. if you lose , well you just lose all with or witouth high rake .. but thats just my opinion

Lol what if you win 1 and lose one .... Break even ?

Oh no the rake !!!!!

Anyway still confused by this thread and hkdollar
10/25 + USD games going on 24/7 or what ?

the 10-25 comparable game generally runs every day from the afternoon till the wee hours of the morning. the 30-60 comparable game is hit or miss generally starting later ending earlier and sometimes not running at all.

Ty sir

like I said it is just my view on things ... if you are just going to win one then lose one all night might as well not play ...

is the cup half empty or half full ??

Check out the worst "ruling" in the history of poker. Not because it was a big deal but just because even non poker players get the absurdity of it. A few days ago I was depositing into my account at the Wynn well over their minimum of $25K or whatever. After the deposit I noticed I was running out of cash so I asked to withdraw 3K cash. She told me, sorry 25K minimum! I thought she was kidding but she was serious! So I had to withdraw 28 cash 3 and deposit 25! I think the reasoning behind the rule which is to shorten the line for cashouts mustve been lost in translation or something.

Sid, in the highest stakes the difference between the winning players is like the difference between a windmill dunk and a scissor kick dunk. The end results are almost the same the differences are mostly stylistic. Today we had a game with an American celebrity where the regulars in the game were almost all clones of each other and would certainly have ALL have -ev if playing only against each other with $75/hour rake.

Sid please show me which casino is rake free. I don't see how your point isn't true for every poker room.

i think the real issue with high rake is not who ends up playing for it, it's the fact that a good chunk of money is taken off the table each hand

I'm heading to HK and macau in early april for a week and was wondering if there is a 10/20 HKD game..i.e like 1/2 US i think..not to comfortable playing higher for swings on my travels..thanks in advance

10/25 is lowest but you can just buy in for 2k if you really want.