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Coconuts to the rescue! I assume (perhaps incorrectly, although that would be rare), that we can't run it twice is because it is time consuming and costs the house rake. What other reason can there be to deny players this option if they want it?

it is a timed rake at the higher games... so big fail.

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12-16-2008 , 09:15 PM

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coconuts

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Originally Posted by ikestoys

it is a timed rake at the higher games... so big fail.

And this has to do with what? Give the timed-rake games this option, and you'll see all players with a few redbirds in their stacks. Won't happen anyway, so what's the difference.

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12-16-2008 , 09:20 PM

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coconuts

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Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 475

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Originally Posted by Raise It

80+20

Sounds like another bad beat for the Shoes devotees. It might not hurt so bad if we had a hot dog to eat.

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12-16-2008 , 09:22 PM

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DiamondsDave

stranger

Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 8

Jeremy, all I want for christmas is a feeder game for 2/5 nl.

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12-16-2008 , 09:26 PM

#556

coconuts

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Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 475

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Originally Posted by zaxx19

A doughnut/coffee/bagel spread would be awesome for us all nighters/early birders and be of minimal expense to the property(well it sure wouldnt break the bank). I played at the Orleans a lot over my trip and even though I never thought I would use such amenities I found out I actually did twice and honestly it did keep me at the tables longer.

All pleas for edible food at reasonable prices have gone unanswered, zaxx. Save your breath for running in and out of the McDonald's down the street.

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12-16-2008 , 09:35 PM

#557

coconuts

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Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 475

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Originally Posted by DiamondsDave

Jeremy, all I want for christmas is a feeder game for 2/5 nl.

You ask too much. Be happy if your sock isn't filled with coal, like mine will be.

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12-16-2008 , 10:29 PM

#558

iron81

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Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 17,729

Would you guys open the high limit area for tournament overflow?

Last edited by iron81; 12-16-2008 at 10:40 PM.

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12-17-2008 , 12:23 AM

#559

Raise It

Horseshoe Hammond

Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 560

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Originally Posted by coconuts

Sounds like another bad beat for the Shoes devotees. It might not hurt so bad if we had a hot dog to eat.

Come on, you might think your posts are funny but it's getting old. I have talked to people that have stopped reading this thread just because of your posts. Your welcome to your comments but most feel your not actually contributing to the thread.... There are no hotdogs coming anytime soon....

There will be other food options coming though in the next couple of months.

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12-17-2008 , 12:25 AM

#560

Raise It

Horseshoe Hammond

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Originally Posted by DiamondsDave

Jeremy, all I want for christmas is a feeder game for 2/5 nl.

I'm sorry Santa is not coming this year.....

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12-17-2008 , 12:29 AM

#561

Raise It

Horseshoe Hammond

Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 560

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Originally Posted by iron81

Would you guys open the high limit area for tournament overflow?

Yes if we knew it would not conflict with opening a high limit game. Not the back room though.

We talked about putting most of the cash games upstairs and all the tournament tables downstairs. But the tournament tables will eventually break down so we will open tables upstairs if needed. We'll have to take it one tournament at a time to see how many tables we will use.

I am interested to see what the turnout will be for the first tournament at noon on the 23rd. We haven't advertised it very long and it is close to Chrsitmas.

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12-17-2008 , 01:31 AM

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mitchman

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Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 505

Any tournament with a 25% rake is bad for the players and the house because not only is the tourney unbeatable it takes money out of the poker economy too fast and eliminates the chance to maintain a game/room for the longterm. Coconuts is an as s but he is right....

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12-17-2008 , 02:01 AM

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S2000Maniac

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Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 363

the house isn't going to run atourney for much less.

you want them to do an 80+8 like online? get real. They have to pay ppl.

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12-17-2008 , 02:01 AM

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LeeElia

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Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 43

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Originally Posted by mitchman

Its 20% of $100 or $200, the impact is not huge enough to take money out of the poker economy. The casino needs to make money too. I mean, what kind of player does a $200 tourney attract? I doubt most players are taking the rake into consideration enough to dry up the game.

I think the Sunday tournament is perfect, I hope it takes off like the old Majestic Sunday Tournaments. If anyone recalls, Majestic used to run a tournament on Sundays several years ago, they would run the tourney with 150 and there would still be a line 30 - 50 deep of people that were not able to get in.

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12-17-2008 , 02:05 AM

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coconuts

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Originally Posted by Raise It

Wow! I never imagined I'd be the topic of conversation, and I'm flattered, thank you. You've actually "talked to people that have stopped reading this thread" because of my posts? Really? I find that so strange, but I know you wouldn't b.s. a customer, and I respect you for that. I'll miss them.

I understand the hotdogs not coming soon. They're nowhere to be found here in this area, and to ship them in from the midwest would probably cost a fortune.

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12-17-2008 , 02:31 AM

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ikestoys

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Originally Posted by coconuts

And this has to do with what? Give the timed-rake games this option, and you'll see all players with a few redbirds in their stacks. Won't happen anyway, so what's the difference.

Your stated assumption for the house not allowing a hand to be run twice is that they house doesn't want to lower their rake.

Their rake is time based so this obviously isn't the case, as the house makes the same amount whether they run 30 hands/hr or 5.

What doesn't change, however, is your EV when you run it twice, so you are basically costing other people money haggling over something that doesn't matter at all.

Also, you are a huge drag on this thread.

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12-17-2008 , 04:54 AM

#567

69x11

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Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 170

I scored my first straight flush bonus tonight. $200 really helped since the table i sat at was so tight. Now to get back the other 10k the tables have raked off me lol.

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12-17-2008 , 11:05 AM

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DiamondsDave

stranger

Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 8

Santa, please reconsider stopping at Horseshoe for x-mas they do need this gift for
there 2/5 nl game. This gift would reward players that have been playing the longest
on that day!

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12-17-2008 , 12:26 PM

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RoccoTerrier

journeyman

Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 216

Unfortunately, I think the 20% rake is in line with what you find in most live tournaments with this kind of buy-ins (e.g., Commerce, Las Vegas strip poker rooms etc.).

For that rake, however, I am hoping that there will be a really good structure -- and I don't consider the Majestic tournaments to have had good structures.

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12-17-2008 , 01:22 PM

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midlimithe

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Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 6

I'm interested in playing 20/40 or 10/20 limit during the week. On an average Monday morning/early afternoon, what time should I arrive to get a seat? I'd like to get there before the waitlist forms, but I don't want to get there so early that there's no game yet. Any suggestions? Thanks.

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12-17-2008 , 01:32 PM

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zaxx19

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Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 5,045

Just to clarify...

The Sunday tourneys will have a 20$ VIG attached or a 20% vig attached........equivalent to 40$ dollars total.

200 broken down to 160+40vig would be rough for me to swallow in all honesty.

Id still probably play for the live tourney experience and just as a nice change of pace but I certainly wouldnt leave a good cash game for a tourney with excessive vig like that.

Not B*tching just giving a realistic appraisal from a semi regular player in the scene.

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12-17-2008 , 01:42 PM

#572

Sunglasses13

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Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 344

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Originally Posted by 69x11

I scored my first straight flush bonus tonight. $200 really helped since the table i sat at was so tight. Now to get back the other 10k the tables have raked off me lol.

Jeremy

How many straight flushes and royal flushes have been paid out since the beginning of this promo? I was at a table where someone hit a Royal Flush and I received $100.

. Every little bit helps!

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12-17-2008 , 06:08 PM

#573

coconuts

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Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 475

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Originally Posted by ikestoys

Ask the higher limit players if they would prefer the option to run it twice, at a nominal fee that benefits everyone, and in spite of it "basically costing other people money." You and I can make a big bet on the polls results.

As far as me being a drag on this thread, there are several, and here's what I do about it: I keep a list of those names, and when I see their name on the post,....(are you ready)....I DON'T READ IT. Simple when you think about it, don't ya think?

No need to respond for my sake; I just put your name on my list. Stay well.

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12-17-2008 , 06:43 PM

#574

Raise It

Horseshoe Hammond

Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 560

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Originally Posted by midlimithe

If the 20-40 isn't going from the day before it usually starts around 1pm on Mondays. 10-20 usually doesn't start until 5-6pm

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12-17-2008 , 06:44 PM

#575

Raise It

Horseshoe Hammond

Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 560

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Originally Posted by 69x11

I scored my first straight flush bonus tonight. $200 really helped since the table i sat at was so tight. Now to get back the other 10k the tables have raked off me lol.

Have you won (not played) more than 200 hands there? Just wondering how many people are still in the negative EV even AFTER winning one of the promos.

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