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Anyone else think that 2-5 has more sharks in it then 5-10 at the shoe on say a weekend ....Nothings worse then a nitty, rock, or sharked out table, and I hit them at 2-5 way more then at 1-2 tables...I keep hearing there are more fish at 5-10 and it can be more lucrative... If this is true I shouldnt be spreading the word of this if true, but I would like a confirmation of there being more fishy games at 5-10 with more gamblers, stations, general fish before I take a big shot bankroll wise at the level.... appreciate your advice!

Totally depends on who is at the table. Some 5/10s are really good. Some are terrible. Sometimes, a table that was bad is now good because a "good player" is tilting.

Game selection is an art, not a science. There's nothing wrong with taking a shot at a bigger game... Just do it when the game looks good... which isn't always easy to determine.

Good luck.

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05-16-2012 , 03:02 AM

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SleepyLaBeef

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Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 443

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Originally Posted by sp1ke36

You should have the correct bankroll to play in this game. If you haven't generated one through PLAYING the lower stakes, then you should stay put. Have to agree with the others, seems like a terrible idea.

This is the wrong answer. DUCY?

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05-16-2012 , 03:47 AM

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Acesflow11

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Originally Posted by SleepyLaBeef

Yea I hear ya thats kinda why I said on the weekend cause weekend I was there one week had like 4 or more 5-10 tables playing...HAD to be a fishy one lol...I would hate to play a high stakes cash games with sharks so I will def wait for right game..plus does not help Im sorely under rolled for 5-10 lol....

I think maybe this weekend If I run good in 2-5 and BI for like $400 and run up to 1k+ I'll go up and take a shot at 5-10..Figure then if I get stacked Im only losing original $400..SO hard not to play bigger games when available tho takes alot to hold off ogf them for me lol!

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05-16-2012 , 01:50 PM

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sp1ke36

centurion

Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 147

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Originally Posted by SleepyLaBeef

This is the wrong answer. DUCY?

I may be wrong, but I've always subscribed to the practice of building a bankroll at a lower limit I could beat, then taking a shot at a higher limit. If I lose at the higher limit I can always drop down.

I guess if the money means nothing to you, take a shot and GAMBLE, but it seems to me the risk of ruin would be high regardless of how fishy the table.

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05-17-2012 , 12:48 AM

#5205

jonnytone

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Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 224

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Originally Posted by sp1ke36

This is nonsense. Head strait to 40/80 HORSE.

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05-17-2012 , 03:00 AM

#5206

Acesflow11

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Originally Posted by sp1ke36

you have good BRM and I have poor BRM, but I will still try to do thisbecause Im confident in my skills and like I said I wont even do it unless I run up money in 2-5

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05-17-2012 , 06:03 AM

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Morph3us

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Originally Posted by jonnytone

This is nonsense. Head strait to 40/80 HORSE.

It's a little easier to come up with the 1k for 5-10 than it is to come up with the 3 or 4k you need for the 40-80 Horse.

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05-17-2012 , 10:43 AM

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UCBananaboy

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Just curious for the 5-10 regs in this forum, how often is there a true recreational player that sits in the games on a weekend night?

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05-17-2012 , 10:45 AM

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sp1ke36

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Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 147

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Originally Posted by Acesflow11

you have good BRM and I have poor BRM, but I will still try to do thisbecause Im confident in my skills and like I said I wont even do it unless I run up money in 2-5

I wish you good luck. I guess I'm a little risk adverse because I'm a 1-2 reg. that aspires to be a 2-5 reg. I'm in no hurry to move up, but everyone is different.

A shot to me is playing 1-2 PLO lol.

Again wish you luck, and hope it works out in a big way.

BTW: Is the min you can buy in for at 5/10 $1000 and the max uncapped?

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05-18-2012 , 12:13 AM

#5210

22dueces22

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Originally Posted by sp1ke36

5/10 min is 500 and max is 1500

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05-18-2012 , 12:58 PM

#5211

chijim

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Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 100

do u think the nato summit and all the activities, protests, closures, will affect the poker room attendance , particularly today?

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05-18-2012 , 04:09 PM

#5212

jonnytone

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Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 224

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Originally Posted by chijim

do u think the nato summit and all the activities, protests, closures, will affect the poker room attendance , particularly today?

I think the stellar weather will impact it more.

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05-18-2012 , 04:15 PM

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Daniel Ocean

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Join Date: May 2012 Posts: 512

Beautiful weekend. Should I head to horseshoe or go downtown and chance getting pelted with human feces. I think I'll gamble.

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05-18-2012 , 09:22 PM

#5214

DrBoogerLips

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Join Date: Feb 2012 Posts: 50

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Originally Posted by Daniel Ocean

Beautiful weekend. Should I head to horseshoe or go downtown and chance getting pelted with human feces. I think I'll gamble.

Either of those could be considered gambling.

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05-19-2012 , 01:25 AM

#5215

jonnytone

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Originally Posted by Daniel Ocean

...or go downtown and chance getting pelted with human feces.

This is a nightly occurrence in Chicago.

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05-19-2012 , 02:23 AM

#5216

Acesflow11

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Originally Posted by sp1ke36

haha Yea imo I would actually consider saying that 1-2 PLO is a bigger shot then 2-5 holdem just because its PLO ....thanks for your luck ..I'm also playing the heartland tomorrow night at the Majestic, so hopefully I can win that this weekend and I will actually be rolled for 5-10 and can play it with out saying Im taking a shot at it lol!

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05-21-2012 , 10:26 AM

#5217

bacats32

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Originally Posted by Acesflow11

you have good BRM and I have poor BRM, but I will still try to do thisbecause Im confident in my skills and like I said I wont even do it unless I run up money in 2-5

Go ahead, take a shot. I took an out of town trip with a couple buddies. He took enough for 3 buy ins at the limits he was playing. Also, bought into some luckbox turbo satellite which I told him was just wasting his money. Ahh, no biggie, it all worked out for him. He totally went on a weekend long heater. Moral to the story, take shots run goooooooood!!!!!!!!

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05-21-2012 , 02:11 PM

#5218

UCBananaboy

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How was the turnout despite LSD and such being closed this past weekend?

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05-22-2012 , 11:55 PM

#5219

Sly_Fox

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Originally Posted by UCBananaboy

Continuing on the horrible structure theme -- they've done a good job of ruining the $1/$2 PLO Game.

The game is now a $1/$2 with $5 bring in, so a pot open is $15. The game plays effectively as big as $2/$5, but the kicker is that they didn't up the max buy-in. So you you can buy in $300 max for a $2/$5 PLO game.

I guess the casino makes out because more chips get jammed in the middle, fewer time spend calculating pot when everyone is just AI, and rake gets maxed out.

Also -- new BBJ (reset to 20k after being hit instead of 100k) is bad too. They justify it by saying they've lowered the qualifier to Quad 2s, but any half-intelligent person realizes how asanine that logic is... especially since (afaik) they didn't make any changes in how they collect the bbj contributions.

Sorry for the rant.

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Originally Posted by FRGCardinal

I hate 1/2/5 PLO. If I want to play 2/5, I'll play 2/5.

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Originally Posted by erroneous

I've been playing this game a good amount, and agree with pretty much everything you have said. Takes some skill out of the game for sure. It seems that the fish enjoy the new structure while the few decent regs don't. I got into an argument with the jheri curl reg that the bring-in has turned the game into a 2/5 short buy-in game. He disagreed and said since it only costs $3 per round, it's still 1/2.

I understand why one can open to $15 pre, but I still find it rather stupid considering there is only $3 in the pot before the raise.

If people want to play 2/5, they will sign up for 2/5. I don't buy the whole speed things up. The game is still incredibly slow. For the most part, dealers there had no problem calculating the pot anytime preflop. I assume the main reason for the change is more rake, so I can't blame them.

I do think Jason (I think that's his name) does a solid job running the room, I just really disagree with this change. Ray does a good job too, thought I'm not sure he's a manager.

I definitely agree, should of done what I proposed in thread of simply rounding the opening raise up to $10. Could of even continued it and instead of $14 make it $15 etc. Game would of ran smoother, quicker, and maintained it's integrity as a 1/2 game. 60BB PLO is a bore.

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05-23-2012 , 10:24 AM

#5220

sp1ke36

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Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 147

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Originally Posted by Sly_Fox

This kinda of reminds me of the 2-5 NL games at Trumps/Majestic Star when the max buy-in was only $200. And on top of that there was a time rake. $7/½hr if IIRC.

The games were real juicy though.

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05-24-2012 , 09:26 AM

#5221

Hobojoe272

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If I have never played at a casino before, let alone cash games, is the $1-$2 NL here good to start at?

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05-24-2012 , 10:31 AM

#5222

LFE888

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What time does the 5/10 game usually start on Friday's? And has 10/20 ever ran on Friday's?

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05-24-2012 , 11:36 AM

#5223

UCBananaboy

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Originally Posted by Hobojoe272

If I have never played at a casino before, let alone cash games, is the $1-$2 NL here good to start at?

Yep definitely.

If you aren't comfortable, you can always buy-in for less than $200 as well.

Tight and solid is fine in the game and will show a profit.

The other poker players at the table aren't generally as friendly as what you find in Vegas (where there are a lot of casuals who are just there to enjoy themselves). Some grouchy grinders who take the game waaaaay too seriously.

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05-24-2012 , 02:43 PM

#5224

jonnytone

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Originally Posted by Hobojoe272

If I have never played at a casino before, let alone cash games, is the $1-$2 NL here good to start at?

$1/$2 at the Shoe is definitely the place to start. Play tight, be aggressive and respect position. This means don't limp into 80% of pots like all the weak players in the game will do. If you take the game seriously and continue to study you should be able to average $15-$25 per hour over the long run which can build you a roll to move up if that's what you want to do.