It's been approved afaik. They don't want to train all of the dealers.

wtf are you talking about

I also would love to see draw games in the mix.

Bad beat hit at a 3/6 table. Quad 9s over quad 8s. The 8s was his first hand on a playover

Not surprised that it was hit on 3/6, but totally lol-ing at the "first hand/playover" situation. Imagine the mind of the guy whose seat was being played-over when he came back!

How come with all the live poker I play I have never even come close to being on a table with the bad beat? Well that's not true one time we were one card away. Meanwhile I know this kid who won it twice and was at the table once. But a year later he asked me to borrow money so w/e I'll be the tortoise not the hair but damn....seems like everyone gets free money from lawsuits, relatives, jackpots, sinecures...meanwhile everything I get is a damn begrudging battle. I just want to be at at the table, just for a small one, just so I can say I gots something for free too

Yeah the guy who was walking plays every day too. The 8s guy gave him 4k though, so at least he got something

Can someone please let me know how many runners the 500 Sat tourney gets and what the break structure is like. Is it the same as the 200 dollar Sunday, no dinner break, etc?

Well over 100 last few times I played. I think close to 130-140 last time, but I really can't remember an exact number for some reason. 10k starting, 40min levels, break every 3. Not great structure, but better than the Sunday 200. It is officially a 450+50+10, which honestly, isn't too bad at >12%. Actually better than the 560s at the circuit.

I think they usually do a dinner break before the FT, or just after the cash. It is a small field at that point so I think they sometimes get a consensus from the players.

Maybe because the odds of a BBJ situation are still pretty miniscule; less than a million to one for quads over quads. Not that that'll stop nitty regs from giving you the stinkeye every time you raise preflop.

I finally know what you mean. Last time I played in it I was just decimated by the antes. I'm new to HORSE and this structure is horrible for a beginner.

I like to play tighter than most in the stud games and you just can't do that with this structure. Looks like I won't be playing in this game in the future.

I never felt so helpless in a poker game.

I've been playing for more than six years. Never even thought about hitting a bad beat jackpot when I played. I just never thought it would happen. Then late January this year I hit the big end at majestic star. The guy who had the winning hand hit the big end the previous year. It was quad 5's losing to runner runner quad J's w/8 kicker.

But I was like you. I don't think I even came close to hitting anything this big. The closest I ever came was a straight flush losing to a bigger one, but I only had one card in my hand, so it didn't qualify.

The only advice I can give is don't worry about, just play winning poker. I'd give back the bbj hit for a first place major mtt win anytime.

Continuing on the horrible structure theme -- they've done a good job of ruining the $1/$2 PLO Game.

The game is now a $1/$2 with $5 bring in, so a pot open is $15. The game plays effectively as big as $2/$5, but the kicker is that they didn't up the max buy-in. So you you can buy in $300 max for a $2/$5 PLO game.

I guess the casino makes out because more chips get jammed in the middle, fewer time spend calculating pot when everyone is just AI, and rake gets maxed out.

Also -- new BBJ (reset to 20k after being hit instead of 100k) is bad too. They justify it by saying they've lowered the qualifier to Quad 2s, but any half-intelligent person realizes how asanine that logic is... especially since (afaik) they didn't make any changes in how they collect the bbj contributions.

Sorry for the rant.

I hate 1/2/5 PLO. If I want to play 2/5, I'll play 2/5.

Will the Horseshoe Classic tourney series in mid-late June have a decent turnout? Has it in the past?

Thanks.

Aldo

Please disregard above post. It was meant for Southern Ind. Thanks.

I've been playing this game a good amount, and agree with pretty much everything you have said. Takes some skill out of the game for sure. It seems that the fish enjoy the new structure while the few decent regs don't. I got into an argument with the jheri curl reg that the bring-in has turned the game into a 2/5 short buy-in game. He disagreed and said since it only costs $3 per round, it's still 1/2.

I understand why one can open to $15 pre, but I still find it rather stupid considering there is only $3 in the pot before the raise.

If people want to play 2/5, they will sign up for 2/5. I don't buy the whole speed things up. The game is still incredibly slow. For the most part, dealers there had no problem calculating the pot anytime preflop. I assume the main reason for the change is more rake, so I can't blame them.

I do think Jason (I think that's his name) does a solid job running the room, I just really disagree with this change. Ray does a good job too, thought I'm not sure he's a manager.

Good to see they have PLO going. Twice I went and put my name on the list and when they had enough to fill the table I was the only one that sat down. The good news is I stayed for nlhe and I was like 36 on the list.

Can anyone here offer experience moving from 1/2 up to 2/5? I'm thinking about taking the plunge, and am wondering how different the games are. Do you think it's best to at first heavily game select 2/5 for tables where I recognize a bad player from 1/2?

at 2/5 game select tables with a lot of money on them. the players on average are worse than the 1/2 players. expect big swings.

Definitely agree. I'm sure we've played in this game vs each other, heh.

As a whole, I just don't feel like the poker room does a very good job of catering to the players. There is much less catering to the players than pretty much any other major cardroom that I've played in which is a shame. I don't expect to be waited on hand and foot when playing poker, but I also expect the management to listen to our thoughts and take our concerns into consideration.

They did well w/ the removal of phone aheads, but they really dropped the ball on this issue.

Anyone else think that 2-5 has more sharks in it then 5-10 at the shoe on say a weekend ....Nothings worse then a nitty, rock, or sharked out table , and I hit them at 2-5 way more then at 1-2 tables...I keep hearing there are more fish at 5-10 and it can be more lucrative...If this is true I shouldnt be spreading the word of this if true, but I would like a confirmation of there being more fishy games at 5-10 with more gamblers, stations, general fish before I take a big shot bankroll wise at the level.... appreciate your advice!

I def do not agree with that.

Sounds kinda like you are fishing for reasons to move to 5-10 without having beat 2-5. I don't specifically about the Horseshoe, but generally this seems like a terrible idea.

You should have the correct bankroll to play in this game. If you haven't generated one through PLAYING the lower stakes, then you should stay put. Have to agree with the others, seems like a terrible idea.