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09-10-2016 , 05:06 AM
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Originally Posted by Mr ATM
This new rating system was supposed to be implemented in October of 2014... only two years behind schedule typical for the Woods

Also heard from a very very reliable source that the Racebook will be moving over to where the arcade is now. They said construction is due to begin the end of October or early November. This gels with the story of the upstairs tournament poker area being dismantled and shuttered around the same time. Looks like they will be throwing up another wall at the end of the Asian gaming area near the elevator and stairs to the Poker room thus blocking off the whole upstairs tourney area and current Racebook. They seem to be obsessed lately with throwing up walls/blocking areas off lately. It also also seems to be in line with their plan to cut the square footage of the gaming area of Foxwoods in half before the Mass casinos open their doors. Foxwoods as we know it may be changing for good right before our very eyes.
Can't see them putting the new racebook where at arcade is. Word is that they are "downsizing" the size of the racebook. The better place would be to put it where the Guy Fieri place is suppose to be going.
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09-10-2016 , 12:30 PM
Too bad Foxwoods cant RELOCATE

Way to far off highway with too many local options becoming available to their client base.

I don't care how much you restructure the floor space, it wont matter when people are gambling at their local venues.

And I say this as someone who has always enjoyed the ride thru the countryside as I make my way down from Mass......but that was when Foxwoods was my CLOSEST Casino option.

It soon will be my FURTHEST option for a day trip.

Times are-a-changing.
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09-10-2016 , 02:27 PM
Noticed yesterday some kid continuously run up his max 500$ buyin to a g, get transferred from the must move, cash out and return to must move game 20 min later with a 500$ buy in. Is this legal? Like great for him for winning that much, but he essentially gets to hit and run and return to the must move, which I assume is his preferred game, with less than the stack he cashed out with 20 min ago. He did this 3-4 times within 2 hours. The floor could've cared less
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09-10-2016 , 02:45 PM
I'm pretty sure you have to wait an hour before coming back in at FW. They may waive this if there is no wait list but essentially they are letting him avoid going to the next game.

If I had to guess I would say the guy was avoiding a tougher game and just wanted to play in the must move game rather than doing a hit and run. But either way its bad for the game.

If you want the Floor to do something about it, you have to raise the issue with the Floor. There is a good chance they would make him sit out for the full hour if you did this because otherwise people like you might get up and break the must move game...
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09-10-2016 , 02:46 PM
This is typically very wrong. Most rooms make you wait one hour before returning to same table with a smaller stack, but maybe here it is different. I would ask.
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09-10-2016 , 02:59 PM
The must move at the 2/5 in Foxwoods is a joke. They only run it when tables start to fill up. Once they have their estimated full number of tables they stop running the must move. They even try to guess which table has players staying longer and change which table is the main game.

Funny they run the 5/10 must move like a traditional must move. Main game gets fed even if it breaks the move table.

Transfers are common nit strategy at Foxwoods. Buy-in...win...transfer to new table. Transfers are treated like new players so max they can bring is table max. OP you likely were seeing the player transfer, and not part of a must move.
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09-10-2016 , 04:44 PM
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Originally Posted by FloatingOOP
Noticed yesterday some kid continuously run up his max 500$ buyin to a g, get transferred from the must move, cash out and return to must move game 20 min later with a 500$ buy in. Is this legal? Like great for him for winning that much, but he essentially gets to hit and run and return to the must move, which I assume is his preferred game, with less than the stack he cashed out with 20 min ago. He did this 3-4 times within 2 hours. The floor could've cared less
No, he's not allowed to do this, he's supposed to wait an hour. But did anyone actually complain to the floor?
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09-11-2016 , 11:34 AM
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Originally Posted by FloatingOOP
Noticed yesterday some kid continuously run up his max 500$ buyin to a g, get transferred from the must move, cash out and return to must move game 20 min later with a 500$ buy in. Is this legal? Like great for him for winning that much, but he essentially gets to hit and run and return to the must move, which I assume is his preferred game, with less than the stack he cashed out with 20 min ago. He did this 3-4 times within 2 hours. The floor could've cared less
Before you criticize the floors you should first understand what their job responsibilities are:

The floor is recognizing open seats in mains, going down the transfer list while waiting for a confirmation from each one if they would like to transfer and to which table, then transferring to the must, confirming new players to must, running to another game to confirm HH, on to the next to do a fill, answering requests to change the channel on the television.........

And what their job responsibilities AREN'T:

To chart and track when a player has picked up and is returning to the table.


Now, there are certainly obvious cases (and this could be one) however to expect the floor to recognize this on a busy Saturday without players pressing the issue isn't fair to the staff for all they do. Not to mention a different floor could be seating that player so they wouldn't even have a red flag raised. Players in CT are really really spoiled by the work on their staffs. Your minds would explode if you witnessed other acts around the country.
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09-11-2016 , 11:47 AM
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Originally Posted by 12bigworm81
The must move at the 2/5 in Foxwoods is a joke. They only run it when tables start to fill up. Once they have their estimated full number of tables they stop running the must move.
The primary purpose is to protect the main games. Whenever they have dealer availability a 2/5 must typically gets priority over a number of the other games. Not sure what your complaint is here.


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They even try to guess which table has players staying longer and change which table is the main game.
I've played this room for 12 years and have never once seen this occur. I'm not even sure what you are trying to say. Please state a specific example of when a main game was changed.

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Funny they run the 5/10 must move like a traditional must move. Main game gets fed even if it breaks the move table.
As stated above this is exactly how the 2/5 musts are operated, to feed the mains. The must is very often broke once they are too short when players no longer wish to play or when their is a long list and it is changed to a main.



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Transfers are common nit strategy at Foxwoods. Buy-in...win...transfer to new table. Transfers are treated like new players so max they can bring is table max. OP you likely were seeing the player transfer, and not part of a must move
I'm with you on this but there is no real solution. You cannot allow players to transfer with entire stacks so you must have the 500 limit in place but as you correctly state it also allows a player a legal way to take chips off the table. The good thing is that most of these table hoppers are so easily exploitable and they ultimately be back in your game in the future. Can't allow it to bother you as you cannot control these moves.
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09-11-2016 , 12:57 PM
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Originally Posted by RhodyGuy
The primary purpose is to protect the main games. Whenever they have dealer availability a 2/5 must typically gets priority over a number of the other games. Not sure what your complaint is here.




I've played this room for 12 years and have never once seen this occur. I'm not even sure what you are trying to say. Please state a specific example of when a main game was changed.



As stated above this is exactly how the 2/5 musts are operated, to feed the mains. The must is very often broke once they are too short when players no longer wish to play or when their is a long list and it is changed to a main.





I'm with you on this but there is no real solution. You cannot allow players to transfer with entire stacks so you must have the 500 limit in place but as you correctly state it also allows a player a legal way to take chips off the table. The good thing is that most of these table hoppers are so easily exploitable and they ultimately be back in your game in the future. Can't allow it to bother you as you cannot control these moves.
I've played the room for longer than 12 years going back to when 20/40 limit was the dominant game, and $5/5 uncapped was the nl game.

Changing which table is the main game happens EXTREMELY frequently. When it happens it is usually late morning. Perhaps you primarily play late afternoon or evenings when the there is typically no longer a must move.
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09-11-2016 , 01:05 PM
I sat down a 2/5 w/$500 once at FW, played one hand, and they said I had to move.

When I sat at the next table everyone had stacks that dwarfed my little itty-bitty $500

I told the floor I prefered not to sit at that table, but they said I had to.

So, I picked up my chips and went back to 1/2
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09-11-2016 , 01:53 PM
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Originally Posted by ZenForest
I sat down a 2/5 w/$500 once at FW, played one hand, and they said I had to move.

When I sat at the next table everyone had stacks that dwarfed my little itty-bitty $500

I told the floor I prefered not to sit at that table, but they said I had to.

So, I picked up my chips and went back to 1/2
Most likely someone with a big stack asked for transfer to table you sat at and it took them a hand to get floor.
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09-11-2016 , 03:00 PM
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Originally Posted by 12bigworm81
I've played the room for longer than 12 years going back to when 20/40 limit was the dominant game, and $5/5 uncapped was the nl game.

Changing which table is the main game happens EXTREMELY frequently. When it happens it is usually late morning. Perhaps you primarily play late afternoon or evenings when the there is typically no longer a must move.
Ok so you're saying 10am or so there are two mains and someone decides to make one of them a must? That does sound strange as I've never seen a main turn to a must in any room I've ever played but as you say this occurred in the morning so if you say this happens I won't doubt it does. Strange though.
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09-11-2016 , 03:57 PM
Hello chaps,

The 5/10 NL game hasn't been running consistently most weekdays. A few of us dastardly degenerates are getting a regular Wednesday game going, starting in the morning and running all day. The hope is that by committing to starting the game every Wednesday AM, more people will see and hear that 5/10 NL is running and the game will get bigger/more consistent over the Fall.

Pretty much trying to put the defibrillator on the heart of the 5/10 NL weekday game. I'm planning on talking to the authorities about putting it on Bravo too. They put on Bravo a 10/10 PLO Thursday notice, except that game doesn't run anymore so it should probably be taken off Bravo anyway .
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09-11-2016 , 06:12 PM
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Originally Posted by RhodyGuy
Ok so you're saying 10am or so there are two mains and someone decides to make one of them a must? That does sound strange as I've never seen a main turn to a must in any room I've ever played but as you say this occurred in the morning so if you say this happens I won't doubt it does. Strange though.
What happens is a new table gets sat. It becomes must move. Game that is still running from previous night becomes main. So far so good. Sometimes after an hour or so the main game starts to lose players quickly. For example everyone has been there overnight and once the action/fish player leaves several also decide to rack up. Rather than move the must move guys over to fill they make the must move the main game. (Try to explain that to the couple of players staying at the original main game.) There is a list at this point so both tables remain full. Then about an hour or two later they have several games going and cancel must move altogether. Then the table transfer nit strategy becomes prevelant.

And yes I know table transfers can be for table selection, but many use it as a permissible way to go south.
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09-11-2016 , 09:39 PM
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Originally Posted by 12bigworm81
What happens is a new table gets sat. It becomes must move. Game that is still running from previous night becomes main. So far so good. Sometimes after an hour or so the main game starts to lose players quickly. For example everyone has been there overnight and once the action/fish player leaves several also decide to rack up. Rather than move the must move guys over to fill they make the must move the main game. (Try to explain that to the couple of players staying at the original main game.) There is a list at this point so both tables remain full. Then about an hour or two later they have several games going and cancel must move altogether. Then the table transfer nit strategy becomes prevelant.
That is ridiculous if this is what's happening.

As far as no longer having a must I begin my session either early afternoon or early even and begin in a must a minimum of 90-95% of the time.
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09-12-2016 , 06:52 AM
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Originally Posted by ZenForest
I sat down a 2/5 w/$500 once at FW, played one hand, and they said I had to move.

When I sat at the next table everyone had stacks that dwarfed my little itty-bitty $500

I told the floor I prefered not to sit at that table, but they said I had to.

So, I picked up my chips and went back to 1/2
Your choice, but:
1) This is how a MM works anywhere, not unique to FW (although it's surprising you were moved after only one hand; perhaps the table was breaking, or you had been seated at the wrong table in the first place, or the floor just made a mistake reading the MM list?). But anyway,
2) Most of those guys with bigger stacks at the next table were probably stuck and had rebought multiple times before building them up. If you're properly bankrolled for the game, this is good, not bad.
3) In a cash game (unlike a tournament), playing a short stack is not a disadvantage (unless you let it be), and can be a big temporary advantage (i.e., until you win enough so that you're no longer a short stack ). (See many strategy threads on this.) It's also a good way to get the feel of the table and other players before you commit major funds.
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09-12-2016 , 12:30 PM
Sorry to change the must move subject, but has anyone seen a schedule yet for the World Poker Finals for October? It's not on the website or Bravo yet. I think it's a little strange that the series is potentially beginning in 3 weeks (based on previous years) and there's still no available schedule. I'm guessing they don't update their website very often because there's still a link for the Labor day series. But maybe some regs have seen a flyer around the poker room and can confirm that this series is in fact in the works. Thanks!
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09-12-2016 , 12:44 PM
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Originally Posted by SAHM
Sorry to change the must move subject, but has anyone seen a schedule yet for the World Poker Finals for October? It's not on the website or Bravo yet. I think it's a little strange that the series is potentially beginning in 3 weeks (based on previous years) and there's still no available schedule. I'm guessing they don't update their website very often because there's still a link for the Labor day series. But maybe some regs have seen a flyer around the poker room and can confirm that this series is in fact in the works. Thanks!
Schedule from Cardplayer:

http://www.cardplayer.com/poker-tour...d-poker-finals
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09-12-2016 , 12:50 PM
Ah! Thanks! I figured it had to be out there somewhere.
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09-12-2016 , 12:55 PM
fast fact 2006- CT tribal gaming revenue 3.2B
2014- just under 2B
still a pretty big pie but that's a huge revenue drop
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09-12-2016 , 08:15 PM
Any info on new rewards system ?
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09-12-2016 , 08:56 PM
Nothing new since last discussion ITT a few days ago.

Last edited by Lattimer; 09-12-2016 at 09:03 PM.
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09-13-2016 , 09:08 AM
Well their new promotions are starting to make an appearance. Across from the rewards center near the Cedar casino is a Gas Monkey Garage/Foxwoods Dodge Charger giveaway. The poster reads for points earned now through September 30 for those with a Diamond card.
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09-13-2016 , 09:36 AM
Correct, it only applies to Royal/Diamond card holders so I didn't bother mentioning. The giveaway is that Saturday night Oct 1 during the Welcome to Diamond party. Of course I can't make it that night so no prizes for me.
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