I think it is time to take a break from Foxwoods for a while.

I have noticed (Especially over the last few months) that it seems there is just no more life at the 2/5 NL tables (My game of choice). It honestly seems that 90% of the players are regs or those under the age of 25 who have flocked to the casino because they can't play on the internet anymore.

The game doesn't seem any fun any more; just a boring snoozefest every time I go. As a purely recreational player- What' the point if I'm not having fun anymore? The last half-dozen times or so I have gone to Foxwoods, My stomach drops as soon as I enter the poker room because I know I am going to see the same degenerates, regulars, and under-25 crowd.

I dunno...Maybe I'm just getting old. I've been playing this game since the boom happened, and I've been good (LUCKY lol) enough to actually make some decent money overall playing the 1/2,2/5, and 5/10 games. But honestly now it just seems that the life has been sucked out of the room and it is getting worse.

Am I off? Anyone else see this?

Negative. I was in the middle of the room at 20/40.

Play the donkaments that's where all the bad players are.

Maybe it's time you learned to play Pot-Limit Omaha?

Zero chance of that happening. I have a young family and would rather spend my time with them. Also, the money it would cost me to catch up to the learning curve is not something I am interested in paying.

I am just going to go with this self-imposed sabbatical and see where it leads me to. I am hoping that the urge to play doesn't come back at all in a lot of ways (At least not until my kids are grown and I will be the old drunk at the table LOL).

Things being what they are right now, the time is right to step away and hopefully never come back.

Why not just save up and use your funds to play the bigger tournaments? Much more fun than grinding especially if you have a family.

That's a good Idea, Ed. Just go every few months and play in a biggie. The only problem with that is that I know what will happen...I'll go busto early in it and be looking to play at the cash tables and BOOM get myself hooked again lol

BBJ just hit again. New BBJ is $38k.

Play limit. Its soooooo much better and much more entertaining. It's correct to see/play many more hands and not everyone is a nit like in LLSNL.

3 days in a row?!?!?! I wonder what the odds of that are, or if it's ever happened at any other room where it's quad-anything to qualify.

This statement is one reason NL players are complete fish at limit.

Well, if we assume that the odds of it hitting on any single day are roughly 1 in 25 (which has been roughly FW's avg frequency), then I think the odds of it hitting once on each of any 3 consecutive days would calculate to about .000064, or about 6.4 times in 100,000 3-day sequences, or about once per 15,625 3-day sequences.... or about once per 43 years, on average (in a very long term).
Of course, it COULD happen again next week....

Doesnt the 3-day sequence restart every day it isnt hit though? I feel like it would be shorter. Regardless, still an extremely rare occurance.

I wonder if somethin like this would bode well for the poker room.....? Sure, the BBJ is low now, but it proves to recreational players that it can be hit rather frequently.

Yes, it does. Each day calculates as the start of a new three-day sequence (whether it was hit or not hit). I.E., they overlap, because each day is actually an independent event, so there are 363 complete 3-day sequences in a 365 day year (plus 2 incomplete ones).

As bad as the structure is for the dailies and mega's, the old timers who play will never understand bet sizing, and other standard fundamentals needed to succeed in the MTT's.

What limit game are you referencing?

Any of 'em. Well, 10/20 is a kind of nitty....so i retract my statement for that game.

I was just making a suggestion. I know there's a ton of people out there that are exclusively NL players. Playing and learning other games has tons of benefits imo.

I agree about learning other games.

I wanna learn to play 20/40 but I dont wanna waste my time starting at 2/4-4/8-5/10 etc...is that possible?

It's not a waste of time if you're learning.

i've been mixing limit and some 1-2
the skills you learn at limit serve you well at no limit
play 4-8 and above
2-4 is slow nitty and a rake fest

I started by playing 4/8...just to learn the dynamics of the game. It was only for a few days. Jumping right in to 20/40 might be a mistake....the swings are fast and pretty large at 20/40. Ripping through a grand in a couple hours isnt out of the ordinary if you're running like ****. Probably worse if you're not accustomed to limit.

Also, learning stud helped my preflop patience for NL. Playing other games will break the monotony of grinding NL all the time too.

Btw, 5-10 is pretty much obsolete now. I havent heard it run in a long time. 4/8 - 10/20 - 20/40 is a good path to take imo.

This might not be the right spot to post this but since we are talking about switching from nl to limit i figured i'd post here. I'm a young guy that has only played nlhe since i started playing cards. I want to start learning some other games and i plan on starting with limit holdem but i have a few questions. i plan on starting at 4/8, how much should i buy in for? and what are some of the major differences in the 4/8 limit games and 1/2 nl games?

I'd say no less than a rack of yellows ($200). I used to buy in for $300, but that's just cause i like to be deepstacked.

Your second question is kind of broad. Idk if you're referring to the differences between NL and limit in general, or how the players will be. I guess you could compare 4/8 and 1/2 to be quite similar in reference to player abilities. In 4/8, you'll see a lot of limping...too much calling, and not enough value betting...just as you see at 1/2 a lot.

Just don't get discouraged early on. Expect to lose a little money over all at first. It takes a little bit to get through the learning curve and swings can be tough. Just consider it an investment.

perfect that's exactly what i was looking for thanks!