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12-30-2012 , 12:55 PM

#11676

Pot Odds RAC

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 4,393

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Originally Posted by Caveman921

20/70=~29% and you don't have to tip the dealer when u cash

You're doing it right.

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12-30-2012 , 03:00 PM

#11677

flipfish

old hand

Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 1,511

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Originally Posted by twoblack9s

In my years of playing live tourneys, I've found that at least 95% of people take the add on, so it essentially just gives you a few more chips which everyone has and doesn't really put you at any type of advantage, but rather just keeps you competitive with everyone else. And a dealer fee is still an admin fee, especially when everyone takes it.

Thus, $15 + $5 = $20 and $20 / $50 = 40%

Incorrect.

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12-30-2012 , 03:20 PM

#11678

twoblack9s

adept

Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 1,070

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Originally Posted by flipfish

Incorrect.

OK. And why is that?

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12-30-2012 , 03:44 PM

#11679

boutrous11

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Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 2,581

not everyone does the add on?

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12-30-2012 , 03:50 PM

#11680

flipfish

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Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 1,511

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Originally Posted by twoblack9s

OK. And why is that?

A 2K add on to a 6K chip stack is huge. Blinds started at 25/50 and I could play more speculative hands than others who did not add on. Some people add on and play the same weak/tight way they would play with a shallower stack.

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12-30-2012 , 04:00 PM

#11681

twoblack9s

adept

Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 1,070

Suppose you may be right. I think the add on compared to the size of the buy in reflects how many people take it. In most tournaments I've played, the add on is usually a dealer tip and an extremely small percentage compared to what the buy in is and it really makes it foolish not to take it. So it seems like the vast majority do take it.

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12-30-2012 , 04:40 PM

#11682

BeerBottlez

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Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 3,909

Anyone who don't take an addon for $5 increasing your stack by 33.33% is a fool and should never play poker.

Of course the downfall is that money isn't to the prize pool but still like others said if dealers are getting $5 from say 45 out of 50 players their is already a decent percentage in relation to the prize pool tipped to them that if you win you can tip less then normal.

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12-30-2012 , 05:39 PM

#11683

Turdzilla

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Sep 2011 Posts: 4,024

Quote:

Originally Posted by flipfish

Since a large majority of players take the add-on there is little benefit since most have the same stack. They are just allowing a minority to players at a discount.

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12-30-2012 , 07:50 PM

#11684

flipfish

old hand

Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 1,511

You should play a "pick your poison" tourney.

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12-31-2012 , 02:43 AM

#11685

gambit8888

Lack'n in some direction

Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 45,026

Quote:

Originally Posted by flipfish

You should play a "pick your poison" tourney.

Whats that?

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12-31-2012 , 03:52 AM

#11686

lighttower21

centurion

Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 119

Big beaver runs a pick your poison tourney tuesday nights I believe. Buy in from $10-60, 10k in chips for every $10 you buy in. No rebuys

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12-31-2012 , 10:53 AM

#11687

flipfish

old hand

Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 1,511

Quote:

Originally Posted by gambit8888

Whats that?

ES does this tourney, $20=30k, $30=40k $40=50k or $50=60k.

You would be surprised at how many people don't buy in for the max.

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12-31-2012 , 10:57 AM

#11688

twoblack9s

adept

Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 1,070

Quote:

Originally Posted by flipfish

ES does this tourney, $20=30k, $30=40k $40=50k or $50=60k.

You would be surprised at how many people don't buy in for the max.

Honestly in that scenario I don't think I would buy in for the max either. But my point was simply in the vast majority of tournaments the add on is so small compared to the buy in that it is foolish not to take it.

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12-31-2012 , 11:07 AM

#11689

BeerBottlez

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Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 3,909

I would like to know what people are buying in for in a pick your poison tournament. If most are only paying $20 then why should I pay 2.5x for that many more chips when the upside is not very good for profitability in the long run.

That is why I just prefer a buyin with addon over something like that as once people get to break many will take the addon because they are short or they want to remain near the chip lead.

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12-31-2012 , 11:55 AM

#11690

flipfish

old hand

Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 1,511

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Originally Posted by twoblack9s

Starting with a smaller stack than other players at your table is horrific.

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12-31-2012 , 12:13 PM

#11691

Coach McGuirk

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Join Date: Feb 2011 Posts: 4,606

I once played in a two table tournament (TTT). Unlimited rebuys. We chopped 50/50 when it got down to me and one other guy. $10 profit for two hours.

hashtag.tourneypro/allinagain

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12-31-2012 , 01:26 PM

#11692

flipfish

old hand

Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 1,511

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Originally Posted by Coach McGuirk

I once played in a two table tournament (TTT). Unlimited rebuys. We chopped 50/50 when it got down to me and one other guy. $10 profit for two hours.

hashtag.tourneypro/allinagain

Sounds like you have all the makings to play tourneys exclusively.

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12-31-2012 , 01:47 PM

#11693

NthDegree

banned

Join Date: Oct 2012 Posts: 268

Called into MCC and asked about the 5/10 PLO that's supposed to run today. He said last week there was a list of 21, but that he's not sure if it'll run today because it's NYE. Anyone there?

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12-31-2012 , 02:29 PM

#11694

Coach McGuirk

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12-31-2012 , 02:41 PM

#11695

BeerBottlez

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12-31-2012 , 02:51 PM

#11696

gambit8888

Lack'n in some direction

Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 45,026

Good work guys... More pictures and gifs!

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12-31-2012 , 04:07 PM

#11697

Atarirob

veteran

Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 2,637

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Originally Posted by BeerBottlez

Oh Bill Fillmaff, the best poker forum ever was the somethingawful forums.

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12-31-2012 , 04:26 PM

#11698

gambit8888

Lack'n in some direction

Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 45,026

Tuff Fish videos tho

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12-31-2012 , 05:03 PM

#11699

boutrous11

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Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 2,581

Quote:

Originally Posted by flipfish

ES does this tourney, $20=30k, $30=40k $40=50k or $50=60k.

You would be surprised at how many people don't buy in for the max.

it's the people that play there almost everyday that buy in for the min each time.

did you last longer than me yesterday? i looked for you on the way out but didn't see you. 5 tables left i think when i left. blinds were 1k2k. i was knocked out when an idiot limped w/ q7o, i shoved w/ A9hh holding 28k, and he called for 1/2 his stack and flopped the world.

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12-31-2012 , 06:02 PM

#11700

flipfish

old hand

Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 1,511

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Originally Posted by boutrous11

I shoved AcQd and got called in 2 places by AsJd and Ad10d. Flop came Kd4d2d.

The lady called of her stack otb and flopped the nuts. I wanted to chuck her little doggie card protector across the room.

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