While Club Metro is virtually impossible to talk to unless in-person, I did call the Sports Book and they were very helpful. Also got lucky that an 'informed' higher up was walking through.

Poker will return to MCC on Saturday, but we don't know what time. The obvious assumption is that it would be open by 9 AM .. but .. GL

Wow. I wonder if that will be the death of greektown.

Got an email saying MCC reopens at 2pm this Saturday.


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It won't help any, but it certainly won't be the death of Greektown.

Different people like playing at different place for different reasons.

In the "before times", some people liked playing at Greektown because of it's good location. Some people liked to go in to Greektown after a Tigers or Lions game. There used to be nightclubs and bars within a block or two of Greektown. A block away there was an establishment where women took their clothes off for money!

Sadly, that is gone now...but the elders speak of a time when it might come back?

We will see!

With limited capacity still in effect in MI at least Greektown has a chance to win over some 'different' Players who may not care where they play .. at least initially. The room is in a different location (ala MGM) and it will really come down to staff and service as it does when you have choices so close to one another.

It really didn't help that that other building towards the river is now gone as well! GL

For me, the problem with Greektown is the situation in the parking structure.

With only 1 elevator working, you've really got to walk the stairs. On weekends, that means parking on the higher floors....Then you've also got the problem with people "acting the fool" in the parking structure.

In the BEFORE TIMES there were SEVERAL instances where I saw people going the wrong way on the spiral ramps. Once that resulted in an accident and it took over an hour to get out of the dang place.

One could try parking on the street...but that is also probably foolish...I imagine crime is high down there. You could park in the Greek Orthodox church, but you got to pay to do that. There used to be a parking structure WEST of Greektown, you would walk through the building that has the Fishbones in it. You would get your parking ticket validated in Greektown. Wonder if that is still an option? Anybody know?

I'm not sure about the other parking structure that you mentioned, but there are a lot of idiots in the parking lot that drive the wrong way. I'm not sure why so many people do it, but every time I go it's several people. That sounds like a nightmare when there was an accident on the ramp.

Motor City Poker is open, 7 tables open.

Motor City is very different. No table changes, no buying chips at the table, you have to use hand sanitizer every time you leave the table and come back, 8 handed, if you move to a different game you have to turn your chips in and get new ones, chips are given to you in a bag.

I'm hoping with all three being open that we'll be able to play without much wait at any of them. I'd really like to stay playing at MGM again.

FWIW, you could never buy chips at the table at Motorcity. At least not in the last decade.

I was very disappointed that Motorcity wouldn't start the 15/30 round-by-round today. We had enough regs interested to start a game, but Kito said they were only going to run 1/2 and 2/5 NL today.

Based on the paltry waitlists all day I saw on Bravo for Motorcity compared to MGM, I don't understand why they couldn't have opened our game.

I was at MGM earlier...

They were reasonably busy...if you called in, and had any amount of luck, you did not have to wait long.

REMEMBER: MGM has a 90 minute check in time, not 60 minutes. So the trick is to call about an hour or so before you think you will want to play/get there.

The problem, as I perceive it, is that at this point in time, there are very few "casual" players. This is unfortunately true even on the weekends....same of bunch of filthy degenerates that are usually there. I think the games are pretty tight, most of the time.

I don't think it will change until you start getting conferences, people traveling (staying at hotel), people getting married & having receptions at the Casinos, sporting events with spectators, restaurants/bars mostly open...

For me, a lot of the money comes from these casual players.

Conversely, while few people know my true identity....a distressing amount can recognize me by face. They know/remember that I am generally a tight player, and thus I don't get as much action as others. So I need to rotate where I play, when I play, and who I play with...that is really restricted now

What's your true identity? I'm sure we've played together.

That's not surprising. Is it still the same handful of regulars that play that game? If so, that's probably why.

Haha, yes. Same old, same old...

Conversely, you could just open up your game lol.

The way I handled it was I asked her why she did that and she said because I might have the winner. I explained that it was against the rules to do that. I went to to the floor later and explained what happened and asked if he could tell his dealers that it's illegal to roll a mucked hand and he gave me a $10 food voucher. I didn't want to make a huge deal about it with her because she seemed ignorant of the rule and I'm not sure if it's her fault or greektown's.

I do sometimes open my game a bit...but it seems that I do so at inopportune times.

One favorite strategy is to start off very, Very, VERY tight. Do so for at least 90 minutes or so...Let and make sure other people at the table see and appreciate that.

Once it has been established that I'm a very tight player, keep that going for just a bit longer. If it works, and I get the cards, then so be it. If not, then open up and even start bluffing a little bit, maybe 1 time an orbit or so. That frequently works well.

In the end though, "tight is right" and I seem to be able to win with that.

Lol I usually would go the opposite way. Start off like a maniac and get caught bluffing, ideally in a hopeless situation that everyone sees. After that, no one will fold to you for the rest of the night. Just take the table to value town.

Yeah, this is easier. Works well, but only against basic players.

Out of everywhere I've been MGM seems to have the worst action, which is very weird. This will be my go to place though considering it's the only one regularly running 2/5, let alone multiple 2/5 tables.

Hey all:

One of the things that is keeping me from playing more is the lack of food & drink.

In the before times, Motorcity used to have a pretty decent food selection. Drinks, candy, trail mix, chips, sandwiches, pizza, fruit, salads, you could actually eat a meal here. Late at night, when the restaurants would close down, they would bring the leftovers into the poker room. Those were usually ribs, chicken wings, pizza, mac & cheese & such.

MGM was getting better just before the pandemic. Some of their sandwiches were OK, their pizza was also OK. You also got $1/hour comp towards the buffet which was always a fun place to take family/friends.

I think the casinos LOVE having the no food/drink rule. Think of all the money they save by not having to pay for the food. All the money they save by not having cooks/servers.

I get that we are in a pandemic...but I've got a funny feeling food might never come back, and drinks may be long time away. Maybe keep the food away, BUT increase the comps to $2/hour for casino restaurants OR give poker players a 50% discount at the food court?

The food helped draw in newbies and casual players.

Casual players are in VERY short supply at this time. The couple times I've played during the pandemic have not been particularly fun or social times.

Plenty on stars.mi, welcome to the new world order

100%. This is what I've been telling people. Even though the game I reg live doesn't run on Stars, there's little incentive to get back to live poker right now with the games this good across the board online.

Hey all:

I played the other night at Motorcity Casino's poker room.

It was good to see it open again...but it felt/looked very different. The room was more spacious? Did they remove a couple/few tables? Everything was VERY clean. When you buy chips, they bag them. Then you get hand sanitizer at your table, and then take the chips out. They had cleaners coming the room regularly, so they get marks there.

I was surprised that there were so few people on the waiting list. I called MGM and there were 70+ people on the 1/2 wait list. I was seated at MC in about 10 minutes or so.

Around midnight, the action really started to slow, and most tables had an empty seat.

They only had 1 2/5 game going. No PLO, everything else was 1/2.

The action was decent, probably the best I've encountered in Detroit yet? A lot of short stacks though (<$100).

No food, no drink.

So that is all the good news/stuff.

Unfortunately, there is some pretty bad stuff...

The demographics of this casino are definitely "lower end" and different than Greektown and MGM. After playing live poker, I went to play a little bit of video poker on the main floor. I was shocked at how many people there were.

After 15-20 minutes, there was a commotion amongst some young gay guys. One of them was drunk/stoned and had lost all his money and credit card(s) in the slot machines. He got VERY loud & belligerent and started yelling/arguing with his friends/lovers. Evidently, he did not understand HOW to play slot machines, and his friends did not teach/help him. He was very distraught over this, and was yelling at the top of his lungs how they betrayed him, did not teach him. He put his credit card in one of the machines and lost it. He also lost his money and drivers license. One of the group members starting laughing at him...and that is when he got VERY loud, shrieking and yelling as loud as he could. He then proceeded to get into graphic detail about what they did/what he suggested they do. This type of graphic discussion should not be allowed t all...does not matter if you are gay/straight. I don't want to hear it. This prompted response from others in his party, and all of sudden, fists are flying, these dudes are punching/kicking and grappling in the aisles of casino. I now stop playing and just watch what is going on. Eventually, one guy gets the other into headlock and pins him on the ground MMA style. The others are yelling obscenities at him/each other the whole time. One of them kicked the guy who was down. This goes on for another 2-3 minutes....and they finally break up and go their separate ways.

What is concerning to me is where in the hell is security? These guys were yelling at each other/threatening each other/shrieking obscenities (very graphic) for a few minutes BEFORE the fists started flying and the MMA in the aisle. Security was NO WHERE through this whole incident! A couple of slot technicians saw it and were scurrying about, talking into their mic's and running around, but security never did anything.

After this incident, I cashed out and decided it was high time for me to leave. That is NOT a safe environment. If somebody decided they wanted to attack/rob a slot player, you are on your own.

On my way out, I flagged down a security guy who was clueless....a technician came up and they confirmed what I saw and they wanted to know where was security. We were told that there were MULTIPLE fights in/around the parking structure. I can confirm this, as I saw the aftermath of one of these fights with security & police present in the parking garage.

Once you get out of the casino, your problems are not over. You have to deal with drivers/traffic in Detroit. I saw multiple other drivers brazenly drive through red lights on Jefferson. This was not rushing to beat a light...but simply not even stopping, not even close. On the way into the casino, saw somebody passing on the SHOULDER of the freeway (I-94)! I have noticed this trend of VERY aggressive driving primarily at night on the weekends. This is coinciding with "party time", say from 9PM to about 3 AM. Could be people drinking/smoking MJ? So it is good to be off the roads from about 9 to 3.

So I am not sure that I'll be going back to Motorcity, especially on busy weekends...crowd is too wild, security is spread too thin. It is just too dangerous in my opinion. Not a very good way to run a casino.

Guess who's back to playing poker badly in Mi!