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05-16-2012 , 02:41 PM
So since lock will be going into software dev, does that mean cake and intertops will be getting these upgrades as well? Or will it be unique to lock revolution players?
05-16-2012 , 02:43 PM
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Originally Posted by vanity02
So since lock will be going into software dev, does that mean cake and intertops will be getting these upgrades as well? Or will it be unique to lock revolution players?
I assume it would be network wide.
05-16-2012 , 02:45 PM
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Originally Posted by GLUIPERIG
I personally think the powers at be at Lock/Cake/Revolution...whatever you want to call it, are going to be in for a rude awakening once everything rolls out. Players have shown repeatedly that they are more willing to go to a site based on software as opposed to rakeback, tournament structure, etc. So if Lock thinks their entire player pool is going to roll over and continue playing once they switch over to the current ****ty Cake software, then more power to them.

Oh, and just saying that the software isn't that bad is not going to get people to believe that it isn't that bad...you'll need to do something really fast or you'll end up with just another low traffic Cake network skin.

I for one, hope that this works out and that new software is rolled out ASAP. I would love to play on a site that has great tourney structure as Merge's structures are just god awful. Glad I have an account on Lock so I can pay attention as to what's going on, however I will not switch over until the software issue is resolved.
+1 will be temporarily moving to bcp until I see a good software update
05-16-2012 , 02:45 PM
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Originally Posted by vanity02
So since lock will be going into software dev, does that mean cake and intertops will be getting these upgrades as well? Or will it be unique to lock revolution players?
Sigh! I guess I was wrong about people understanding how a network operates.
05-16-2012 , 02:55 PM
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Originally Posted by KingKongGrinder
Sigh! I guess I was wrong about people understanding how a network operates.

Ok. I'm going to admit that I really DON'T understand the network/skin relationship. Most of my online poker playing occurred at Paradise, PokerStars and Full Tilt, none of which was part of a "network", per se, correct? I saw that some other sites were referred to as "skins", which I took to mean a particular client which shared ownership with other clients ("skins"). But this is only a guess on my part. I would be happy to be directed to a thread or post which defines "network", "skin" and their relationship.
05-16-2012 , 02:59 PM
Maybe the Lock reps need to do a FAQ on poker network structures. Or they could have us keep answering the questions for them.
05-16-2012 , 03:03 PM
I have no idea what they could include in an FAQ that they haven't answered over and over and over in this thread already. People would read the FAQ and then come back and ask all the same questions yet again apparently.
05-16-2012 , 03:27 PM
Ok, so for the people still confused, I'll just go ahead and try to explain the whole network/skin system instead of calling you all stupid and ignorant.

The term network should be pretty standard and easy to understand. The network is all the "skins" combined. Merge is a network. Lock is a skin.

A skin is just a paticular site that is part of an overall network. Think of it in terms of say automobiles. GM would be a network with Chevy, Pontiac (when it was around), etc being skins. The advantage of skins is that it allows players the ability to take advantage of different promotions that are skin specific. For instance, look at RPM, even though they belong to the same Merge network as does Lock, RPM has a lot of daily promotions that are specific to that paticular site that Lock does not offer. It just allows more variety to the consumer. The benefit to the network of course is that it allows them to reach out/attract a larger consumer base.

The last thing you need to know is that WHEN IT COMES TO SOFTWARE, EVERY SKIN SITE OF A NETWORK RUNS THE SAME NETWORK SOFTWARE. That's why when you play at Lock, RPM, BCP, Carbon, Aced, etc. all the software/lobby features etc. are in essence the same. There is obviously some color features and other subtle changes, but the overall gameplay is the same. This will be what happens when Lock takes over Cake. Seeing how Lock is currently running the MERGE SOFTWARE, they will need to drop it and adopt the current CAKE SOFTWARE which IMO, is absolutely terrible. If you don't believe me, youtube cake poker vids to get an idea.

Again, in the long run, this might be a good move for Lock. However, in the short term immediate future, this is a step in the wrong direction and will continue to be -EV until Revolution is able to roll out a networkwide software overhaul.
05-16-2012 , 03:42 PM
Will there be a iphone/ipad app like PokerStars, that would be great
05-16-2012 , 03:44 PM
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Originally Posted by GDog1666
Will there be a iphone/ipad app like PokerStars, that would be great
Never gonna happen.
05-16-2012 , 03:58 PM
I have played about 300-400k hands on Intertops and the software is certainly a bit jerkier than Merge and I do run into little bugs from time to time when doing things like accessing the cashier. But, in my experience, it is very playable and I usually run 8-10 tables at a time and run many other programs simultaneously.
05-16-2012 , 06:46 PM
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Originally Posted by GLUIPERIG
Ok, so for the people still confused, I'll just go ahead and try to explain the whole network/skin system instead of calling you all stupid and ignorant.

The term network should be pretty standard and easy to understand. The network is all the "skins" combined. Merge is a network. Lock is a skin.

A skin is just a paticular site that is part of an overall network. Think of it in terms of say automobiles. GM would be a network with Chevy, Pontiac (when it was around), etc being skins. The advantage of skins is that it allows players the ability to take advantage of different promotions that are skin specific. For instance, look at RPM, even though they belong to the same Merge network as does Lock, RPM has a lot of daily promotions that are specific to that paticular site that Lock does not offer. It just allows more variety to the consumer. The benefit to the network of course is that it allows them to reach out/attract a larger consumer base.

The last thing you need to know is that WHEN IT COMES TO SOFTWARE, EVERY SKIN SITE OF A NETWORK RUNS THE SAME NETWORK SOFTWARE. That's why when you play at Lock, RPM, BCP, Carbon, Aced, etc. all the software/lobby features etc. are in essence the same. There is obviously some color features and other subtle changes, but the overall gameplay is the same. This will be what happens when Lock takes over Cake. Seeing how Lock is currently running the MERGE SOFTWARE, they will need to drop it and adopt the current CAKE SOFTWARE which IMO, is absolutely terrible. If you don't believe me, youtube cake poker vids to get an idea.

Again, in the long run, this might be a good move for Lock. However, in the short term immediate future, this is a step in the wrong direction and will continue to be -EV until Revolution is able to roll out a networkwide software overhaul.
TYVM. Perhaps this should be made part of a sticky or FAQ?

Now I have a question. What about the money I have in my Vault? Where does it go? Do I need to transfer it to my regular account? I haven't seen this issue referenced in the 200+ messages in this thread.
05-16-2012 , 06:51 PM
I believe that the Vault is handled through a web browser so I would assume it would not be affected.
05-16-2012 , 06:59 PM
Check the FAQ.


Oh, wait... nevemind.


You don't need to move funds to or from the vault. When you open the client for the first time in June, you will get a software update. Then you will be able to play the pokers as usual using your funds, but on the Revolution network with the Revolution pool of players.
05-16-2012 , 07:23 PM
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Originally Posted by pianospike
I have played about 300-400k hands on Intertops and the software is certainly a bit jerkier than Merge and I do run into little bugs from time to time when doing things like accessing the cashier. But, in my experience, it is very playable and I usually run 8-10 tables at a time and run many other programs simultaneously.
Have you always been able to run 10 tables? I've played a decent amount on intertops and have had problems when multitabling. I stack tables and often a table wouldn't pop up for me when it was my turn and I would time out and have no idea for a while if I had a lot of tables going. I think I have played since the latest update but not sure. If I hadn't had this problem it might have been my main network. Now I play mostly on merge for easier multitabling.
05-16-2012 , 07:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Max Cut
Check the FAQ.


Oh, wait... nevemind.


You don't need to move funds to or from the vault. When you open the client for the first time in June, you will get a software update. Then you will be able to play the pokers as usual using your funds, but on the Revolution network with the Revolution pool of players.
Yeah, but what about the Vault? Does the Vault exist in the new network?
05-16-2012 , 07:36 PM
They said the vault and the dashboard would remain after the switch.
05-16-2012 , 07:47 PM
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Originally Posted by yurk
the Vault is handled through a web browser so I would assume it would not be affected.
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Originally Posted by transversal
Yeah, but what about the Vault? Does the Vault exist in the new network?

WTF?


I'm starting to think some of these questions are just trolling.
05-16-2012 , 07:47 PM
If you have problems with lag while multitabling Cake you need a new computer. I have a 3+ old computer and have never had any problems.

My major complaint with Cake software is the tile function. It doesn't work with multiple monitors. At least that's the case for me.
05-16-2012 , 07:54 PM
Please don't remove the 24 person limit o8 tourneys and the double or nothing o8 sit-n-gos. That is all I ask!
05-16-2012 , 08:03 PM
Need to make a new thread, this one is just overload of repetitive questions that have already been answered.... Read previous posts!!! Don't just ask cuz I'm pretty sure damn near all possible questions have been asked and most answered.
05-16-2012 , 08:04 PM
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Originally Posted by MicroBob
WTF?


I'm starting to think some of these questions are just trolling.
Well, you're obviously a lot smarter than the rest of us, Bob.
05-16-2012 , 08:24 PM
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Originally Posted by MicroBob
WTF?


I'm starting to think some of these questions are just trolling.
Ok, I searched this thread. I was the first to ask about the vault. How is that trolling?
05-16-2012 , 08:38 PM
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Originally Posted by transversal
Ok, I searched this thread. I was the first to ask about the vault. How is that trolling?
Note how Bob quoted a response about a previous vault question from before your post.
05-16-2012 , 09:04 PM
Imjustshane, as far as I know, and please do correct me if I am wrong, currently many skins on the cake network use the cake network cashier. If Lock is taking over the Cake network, does this mean that Lock will also take over cashier duties for those skins that currently use the cake network cashier?

      
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