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05-14-2012 , 02:09 PM
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Originally Posted by KingKongGrinder
Now I'm confused. I thought Lock was purchasing Cake????? Won't Lock now own all the players currently on Cake? If the answer to this is yes, then I will have 2 accounts. One from Cake and one from Lock. Are you saying that Lock will allow me to have 2 accounts? If yes, then that's odd. If no, then which account will I be allowed to play on?

If Cake going to remain a network like Merge? What you said makes sense if that's the case.
The second thing you said is right. Lock is buying the Cake Network, rebranding it as the Revolution Gaming Network, and leaving Merge to join their new network.
05-14-2012 , 02:44 PM
Will we be able to do player 2 player transfer among people on the whole Network, Shane?
This would be awesome because it is such a pain in the ass, having to have an account on each one just to transfer money to someone else. When you could do it all from one account it would make life so much easier, and not have money here and there.
05-14-2012 , 02:59 PM
Flushmonster, are you looking to do some scams?
05-14-2012 , 03:42 PM
I hope Lock decides to get rid of screenname changes on the cake network....right now you can change your screenname whenever you want on cake and IMO it makes catching cheaters so much harder.
05-14-2012 , 03:57 PM
I played on cake pretty heavily in 2008/early 2009. Played a whole ****load of rush when it became available on ftp. After BF played some on cake through late summer/early fall, then again some more late winter, but it's been minimal. Software is ok but not fantastic and definitely needs more input from a players perspective.

Couple of things off the top of my head:

Needs a timebank for ring games. Please god do this.

The lobby feels sluggish/clunky.

Better sunday tourney schedules (just better over all tourney schedules honestly, but hopefully an influx of players will help with that).

As someone else mentioned, resizing tables is something of a pain in the ass. Default positions of opening new tables also feels...awkward I guess.

There's more, but it's mostly little things. The problem is though that the little things add up. It starts at mildly annoying but eventually reaches the level of people who hate the software with a burning passion.

As a side note, Jason Somerville did some entertaining sessions on cake over the winter and posted them on youtube in a series called Eating Cake.

http://www.youtube.com/user/JCarverPoker/videos

I suggest this, because at the very least you'll also get an idea of what the software looks like, and how a very good internet player bitches about different problems with said software. On top of entertainment/education obviously.
05-14-2012 , 04:00 PM
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Originally Posted by shaunnn
I hope Lock decides to get rid of screenname changes on the cake network....right now you can change your screenname whenever you want on cake and IMO it makes catching cheaters so much harder.
lol 1st post July 2008 reg date.

But solid point and solid first post. Another reason I don't care for the cake network.
05-14-2012 , 05:16 PM
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Originally Posted by TheFlushMonSter
Will we be able to do player 2 player transfer among people on the whole Network, Shane?
This would be awesome because it is such a pain in the ass, having to have an account on each one just to transfer money to someone else. When you could do it all from one account it would make life so much easier, and not have money here and there.
There will never be transferring between skins on a network it creates too many problems and is too prone to fraud.

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Originally Posted by shaunnn
I hope Lock decides to get rid of screenname changes on the cake network....right now you can change your screenname whenever you want on cake and IMO it makes catching cheaters so much harder.
We are looking at the best way to deal with this, we dont love the unlimited changes either.

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Originally Posted by KingKongGrinder
Now I'm confused. I thought Lock was purchasing Cake????? Won't Lock now own all the players currently on Cake? If the answer to this is yes, then I will have 2 accounts. One from Cake and one from Lock. Are you saying that Lock will allow me to have 2 accounts? If yes, then that's odd. If no, then which account will I be allowed to play on?

If Cake going to remain a network like Merge? What you said makes sense if that's the case.
There was Cake the room, and Cake the network. We have taken over Cake the network which will be rebranded Revolution. Cake the room will remain separate.

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Originally Posted by Squibsorz
I have the same name reg'd on both Cake and Lock, will this be problem? how will it work out?
When we move over you will be asked to change your Lock screename.
05-14-2012 , 06:09 PM
Super excited about the new network. Hopefully a bit of competition with Merge will create a better poker environment for US players. I do have a couple of questions, though:

How will the VIP system change? (i.e. What percentage will players earn who hit the top tier?)

Also, for someone who rakes ~$30k per month, what level would that be on the Ronin chart? Would it be around 300,000 VIP points, or roughly $17k in bonus money from Ronin?

What will be the effective RB for someone at the top tier of the VIP system with the added Ronin rewards?

I am sure you're ironing out the details now, but I am going to be putting in some serious summer volume and want to get the highest RB percentage possible. Obviously, the sooner you release these details, the easier it will be to prepare to move networks and get funds ready for June play.

Thanks for the info.
05-14-2012 , 06:12 PM
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Originally Posted by shaunnn
I hope Lock decides to get rid of screenname changes on the cake network....right now you can change your screenname whenever you want on cake and IMO it makes catching cheaters so much harder.
This x1 mirrion.

Not only does it promote (or shield) fraud, it's also what makes trackers harder to use on Cake. Allowing full-function HUDs is a step in the right direction, but continuing to allow frequent nick changes makes it largely useful only for session statistics. I'm much more concerned about long-term stat tracking than I am real-time HUD session stats. And to be clear, I neither use nor condone datamining -- I'm talking strictly about tracking hands that I'm dealt in myself, and used for my own study and improvement.

I'm fine with allowing infrequent nick changes for justifiable reasons, assuming you want to spend the resources justifying those reasons. Otherwise I like the position of PS and FTP where regular player nicks were pretty much sacred and almost never allowed to change.
05-14-2012 , 07:34 PM
imjustshane, can you please address the cashout problems on Cake. Four or five times it has been asked in one way or another...

Will you guys be handling the cashouts for those of us playing on your new network via the Cake skin? Many of us have accounts on Cake but refuse to play there because of the cashout issues. I would love to play on your new network but if nothing is going to change regarding cashouts at Cake Ill never play there.

As a side question, if you wont be handling Cake cashouts can I get my RB switched from Cake to Lock so I can play on your network with the assurance of actually getting paid?

Thanks.
05-14-2012 , 08:54 PM
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Originally Posted by ImmortalStyle
imjustshane, can you please address the cashout problems on Cake. Four or five times it has been asked in one way or another...

Will you guys be handling the cashouts for those of us playing on your new network via the Cake skin? Many of us have accounts on Cake but refuse to play there because of the cashout issues. I would love to play on your new network but if nothing is going to change regarding cashouts at Cake Ill never play there.

As a side question, if you wont be handling Cake cashouts can I get my RB switched from Cake to Lock so I can play on your network with the assurance of actually getting paid?

Thanks.
Hopefully the broke ass bums at Cake will be able to use Lock's monies to pay those who've been waiting for months!
05-14-2012 , 08:56 PM
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Originally Posted by RikaKazak
+1

Cake used to have the COOLEST promos back in the day. Their cake shop was one of my favorite poker site stores on the net. I got an apple t.v., rum cake, ipods (2), and a whole bunch of other things. Now all I can get is stupid $100 bonuses PLEASE bring back the cake shop...I loved it (I grinded so many extra hands to get my apple t.v., only way the wife would let me get one)

In other words, stores with cool things = makes me googogogog/grind. Because my wife is cool with anything I buy with poker points (big screen t.v.s, or ipads or computers etc. Even if I "could" get cash for my points, my wife doesn't care and is cool with it cause she knows that extra incentive brings in a lot more money for the family)
they took the cake shop out becasue the place that you were ordering from wasn't sending any of the products. I emailed them awhile back, and was told they would find a new deal once traffic picked back up so....let's see if they hold up there end of the bargain once there traffic shoots back up.
05-14-2012 , 08:58 PM
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Originally Posted by ImmortalStyle
imjustshane, can you please address the cashout problems on Cake. Four or five times it has been asked in one way or another...

Will you guys be handling the cashouts for those of us playing on your new network via the Cake skin? Many of us have accounts on Cake but refuse to play there because of the cashout issues. I would love to play on your new network but if nothing is going to change regarding cashouts at Cake Ill never play there.

As a side question, if you wont be handling Cake cashouts can I get my RB switched from Cake to Lock so I can play on your network with the assurance of actually getting paid?

Thanks.
Hi sorry I have replied somewhere, the threads a bit messy now.

For now we will only be handling the our own cashier. We would expect a flow on effect with the extra liquidity helping speed up the existing rooms cashouts.

We are still working on the finer details of rakeback, we will be making further announcements later in the week on this when its finalized.
05-14-2012 , 10:09 PM
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Originally Posted by imjustshane
Hi sorry I have replied somewhere, the threads a bit messy now.

For now we will only be handling the our own cashier. We would expect a flow on effect with the extra liquidity helping speed up the existing rooms cashouts.

We are still working on the finer details of rakeback, we will be making further announcements later in the week on this when its finalized.

Thanks Shane. Sorry if I missed your reply earlier.
05-14-2012 , 10:21 PM
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Originally Posted by imjustshane
All of the fine details of the promos will be out later in the week, the first thing I can confirm is that our $1 million Ronin rake chase is back June 1. http://lockpoker.eu/promos/ronin/
Dear Lock,

When I heard you purchased cake, at first I was concerned (I play on merge/bovada/cake daily). I was scared that you'd cut promos, or get rid of the awesome customer support, or end rakeback. In other words, ruin a site that I love.

However, I am officially VERY excited after seeing your attitude towards software improvements and promotions I'm so happy you bought cake and I think it's going to be a HUGE positive for online American poker players June 1st is going to be a great day in online poker imo, and I'm planning on making revolution my new main site

GOGOOGOGGOGOOG!!!!!!
05-14-2012 , 10:26 PM
fwiw I LOVE the fact that you can change your name weekly on cake. I really hope you leave that aspect in. I'm sick and tired of people buying my hands on PTR and using that against me.
05-15-2012 , 12:28 AM
I would say monthly basis name change would be fair. Takes approx 1 1/2week of grind with regs at the same table for me to accumulate data. Leaving me with 2 1/2 before they name change to use it. Sounds fair.
05-15-2012 , 12:32 AM
But this is of course with multi tabling, which I hope I will be able to do... Because if I can't I'm done with revo until they fix it. Someone can start making a table ninja for revolution, cuz I'll buy one
05-15-2012 , 01:10 AM
Yeah, I've always been a fan of the name-change idea.
05-15-2012 , 01:41 AM
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Originally Posted by RikaKazak
Dear Lock,

When I heard you purchased cake, at first I was concerned (I play on merge/bovada/cake daily). I was scared that you'd cut promos, or get rid of the awesome customer support, or end rakeback. In other words, ruin a site that I love.

However, I am officially VERY excited after seeing your attitude towards software improvements and promotions I'm so happy you bought cake and I think it's going to be a HUGE positive for online American poker players June 1st is going to be a great day in online poker imo, and I'm planning on making revolution my new main site

GOGOOGOGGOGOOG!!!!!!
Same here I could not say it better. Think a bunch of people feel the same way.
05-15-2012 , 02:07 AM
Here's an issue with the Cake software that I haven't seen anyone else post. I have the newest verison. A lot of the time when the action is on me, the only reason I know it is is because I can hear the sound. My tables won't pop up. Support told me to have all the tables maximized and auto-focus checked. I did both and still have the same problem. It's not all the time but it gets annoying having to click the toolbar and find the table that's flashing.

Also, for those of us who have $ on Lock and Cake, will we have the option to combine our rolls? It seems pointless to me to have a roll split up on two skins of the same network. It would be a reallllll hassle to have to cashout and re-deposit. Especially the way Cake cashouts are going right now. If you could make this happen it would be fantastic.
05-15-2012 , 02:09 AM
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Originally Posted by imjustshane
When we move over you will be asked to change your Lock screename.

will all lock players will be asked to change? i want to change mine..
05-15-2012 , 02:13 AM
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Originally Posted by Revis Island
Here's an issue with the Cake software that I haven't seen anyone else post. I have the newest verison. A lot of the time when the action is on me, the only reason I know it is is because I can hear the sound. My tables won't pop up. Support told me to have all the tables maximized and auto-focus checked. I did both and still have the same problem. It's not all the time but it gets annoying having to click the toolbar and find the table that's flashing.

Also, for those of us who have $ on Lock and Cake, will we have the option to combine our rolls? It seems pointless to me to have a roll split up on two skins of the same network. It would be a reallllll hassle to have to cashout and re-deposit. Especially the way Cake cashouts are going right now. If you could make this happen it would be fantastic.


Don't think you understand. Lock is just adding itself and taking over the "cake" network and rebranding it the revolution network or whatever. The "cake skin" as it is now will still remain...under the new named network (which Lock is buying and taking over.) Lock poker as a client/skin and cake poker as a client/skin aren't combining. The two as skins of the network will be separate as I understand it.

So you will more than likely have two rolls on the same network.

Your Lock balance will move over. Your cake balance will stay the same.
05-15-2012 , 02:20 AM
Would certainly appreciate the new revolution network to accept players from New York State and other states that are not permitted to play on Lock. Doesnt make sense that players from these states would be allowed to play on Cake but not Lock.
05-15-2012 , 03:03 AM
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Originally Posted by AUGUY55
Don't think you understand. Lock is just adding itself and taking over the "cake" network and rebranding it the revolution network or whatever. The "cake skin" as it is now will still remain...under the new named network (which Lock is buying and taking over.) Lock poker as a client/skin and cake poker as a client/skin aren't combining. The two as skins of the network will be separate as I understand it.

So you will more than likely have two rolls on the same network.

Your Lock balance will move over. Your cake balance will stay the same.
No I understand, I was just hoping since Lock is in charge of the network that they could facilitate something like this. I'm sure I'm not the only one who has accounts on both current networks. This would just take away a ton of the hassle of waiting months for a check to basically re-deposit back to the same site when the switch happens. I'm sure that since Lock will have better promos that many people with accounts on both would pick Lock.

Obviously it isn't a huge issue, but would be nice to have your whole roll on the site with the better promos, rb, etc.

      
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