Ty!

But I have enough bankroll for 15$-s and opponents seem to be playable even with small experience.

^ @JP; its deffo not std, hence its interesting...

also; i have a really small penis and a robust red line validates my existence as a man.

I'm playing 15s hopefully moving up to 30s soon.

PM me your skype SN if you want to chat about strategy and hands.

Geometric betting should work. Say blinds are 10/20 and effective stack size is 400. You bet 61.2% on each street which is 49 on the flop, 109 on the turn and 242 on the river.

now post a graph that means something


filter for 20-25bb, your bluff range, and 3bet pre and ck out some of these expectations in bb/hand

think ur prob close to right, but maybe just running good with card dist and board textures, only numbers will prove ur crazy ramblings

curious...how did you get the 61.2%

Hi Steve, just wondered if you could shed any light on to why there are no $15 dollar 6 man or 9 man turbo tables?

I play the 30's quite a bit but would like to multi table the 15's. I feel that they would get a some volume.

i am steaming.
how is pokerstars ******ed enough to keep the timebank for rematching at 30 seconds IN SUPERTURBOS???

You want to bet n streets to get effective stack size all in so the percentage of the pot you bet on each street is:
r = [(1 + 2*S/P) ^(1/n) - 1]/2

The example I gave is for 3 streets of betting, S=400 and starting with P=80 on the flop.

ty sir

it depends on what your goals are.

if you're trying to be a grinder and move up in stakes and eventually make good steady cash playing these games without ever risking busting your bankroll... then i would say you should have a bankroll of about 100 buy ins. So $1500 in your case.

however, if you've got a job and a career and money and are just doing this for fun and to make a bit of extra cash on the side... and that it wouldn't be a big deal if you busted your account.. then you certainly don't need 100 buy ins.

if you're better than most of your opponents are are able to beat the game at your current stakes... you shouldn't really have much more than a 20 - 30 buy in downswing. that's why having 100 buy ins is really safe because even if you lose 30 buy ins, you won't have to drop down in stakes or risk busting your bankroll. If you're on a 50+ buy in downswing... it means you probably need to re-evaluate your game, maybe get yourself off tilt, and start to rebuild, and move down in stakes if you keep losing.

so ideally you would want $1500 playing $15 a game if you want to be super comfortable at those stakes and be able to grind them without worrying about your bankroll. But for most people, if you have over $500, that's probably reasonable enough. Like if you're just a student playing poker for fun or something, 100 buy ins might be excessive... depends on how safe you want to play it. I wouldn't really recommend playing those stakes with less than $500 because you can have a 10 buy in downswing really quickly with these games and you don't wanna lose half your roll in an hour or something like that.

in general, maybe consider moving down when you lose between 30% - 50% of your bankroll at that stake... and conversely, maybe consider moving up when you increase your bankroll by 50%.

a safe way to move up in stakes if you don't have a big bankroll would be to "take shots" in a careful way.

so let's say you have a $700 bankroll... and you grind it up to $1000 playing $15 a game.... and let's say you want to move up to playing $30 a game. Wait until you get maybe $1100 in your bankroll, then play the $30s... and if your bankroll drops below $1000, then drop back down to playing $15s.

just keep in mind that having a 20 buy in downswing will be relatively rare... but they'll pretty much happen to just about everyone. i would guess that pretty much every serious poker player will have 20+ buy in downswings at some point (many have those swings every week).

anyways, hope that helps... gl at the tables

What? I'm the best superturbo player in the world and I regularly have 50+ buyin downswings.

Thnak you very much. It was very helpful.

you should invest a portion of your equal to your ROI every game, hence 2-3% for most winning players. that's why most people move up with 50BI and move down with 35BI for the target stake. it is a good approximation for optimal growth until you have a better idea of your "real" ROI.

Hello gentle 2p2 reader. Working on some calculations without much of a database of ST matches. What percentage of hands is a typical opponent calling jams over a min raise with at at the 25, 20, and 15 blind level would you say?

hmmm, i was looking at HEM db, filtering for A2-A5 hands in the big blind at 21b+ eff stacks to see if me shoving them against raises was costing me money versus flatting. i thought for sure i was hemorraghing money shoving them, even tho math tells me to, with some exceptions depending on player type.

well, i couldn't have been more wrong. much better than flatting. at least for my skill level - i'm sure Spamz would have higher winnings than me postlfop with one of those hands.

i'm actually -99bbs/100 flatting, which is pretty much same as folding. and i'm +8/100 3bet shoving with evbb of 25. i win w/o showdown 74% of the time, which makes sense given people's calling ranges.

curious what you guys' stats are for those hands, filtered for 3betting them versus flatting

For the 15 blind level I am also curious to know how often the average readless player in position is going to get their stacks in (either by open jamming or calling our jam).

same filters as above but this time for flatting hands like J8o, Q9o, T8o deep and i'm surprised how profitable calling with those are. for some unknown reason i thought i was losing money with them. go figure. analyzing my db always surprises me.

Including suited?

3betting jamming = -0.10bb/100 (371)
flatting = 32bb/100 (428)

Those are evadjusted, how big is your sample for jamming and flatting?

yeah including suited, so A2s-A5s. i have a decent sample. i'm sure i fold too much postflop which is why the winrate is so crappy.

for 20bbs+, all else being equal, about 20%, give or take depending on the player. this is the range i usually see, weighting the worse hands less (so reduce the combos when using Stove for hands like KT, QJo)

A6s+, A7o+, PPs, KTo+, KTs+, QJo+, QJs+

at 15bbs range can be a little wider, especially with Ax hands

if you see tighter or looser ranges after a good sample, then keep that in mind so you can adjust to how people are perceiving your range. also before you shove, keep in mind recent history. randoms remember the way you played your last 4 hands more than your overall stats, especially if you have been out of line.

how small is small? i don't see how you can get the SPR for the 70-90-jam line that you said in your other post unless i'm missing something

Thanks for reply. So at 20 bb you are getting around 20. What sort of difference are you seeing from 20 to over 20?

Yeah I also think 30 seconds is over the top.