The Superturbos (aka "sejjeturbos") Discussion Thread - Page 80 - Heads Up SNG and Spin and Gos -- Two Plus Two Poker Forums

@pokerstars Steve

You guys should really introduce some intermediate levels at the lower stakes Hyper HUSNG.with the current $7/$15/$30/$60 everytime a player need to have doubled his roll before to move up. If you had more intermediate levels (may be 5/10/20/30/50/80/100??) people would be able to move up quicker and you guys would generate more rake.
The players would also benefit (and so would pokerstars) when moving down because they wouldn't have to go down to half the stake they are playing.

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11-10-2011 , 06:53 PM

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Shove

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11-10-2011 , 09:01 PM

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you have got to love this game

Hero (BB): 520 (26 bb)
SB: 480 (24 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 8

SB raises to 40, Hero calls 20

Flop: (80) 8

(2 players)
Hero checks, SB bets 40, Hero calls 40

Turn: (160) 4

(2 players)
Hero bets 90, SB raises to 400 and is all-in, Hero calls 310

River: (960) 5

(2 players, 1 is all-in)

Spoiler:

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11-10-2011 , 09:37 PM

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Siriusz

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Pretty sure PokerStars should be fixing that also

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11-10-2011 , 09:54 PM

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nuclearpore

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Originally Posted by genher

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11-10-2011 , 10:03 PM

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Originally Posted by genher

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11-10-2011 , 10:10 PM

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Originally Posted by genher

That seems like a simple, but great idea.
Without thinking about it too much I think it would be great, I suppose the only concern would be that the games get spread out more and be thinner at each level? But I guess the traffic is so thick that this probably wouldn't be much of a concern? Be interested to hear more thoughts

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11-10-2011 , 10:13 PM

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Originally Posted by UniqueFreak

That seems like a simple, but great idea.
Without thinking about it too much I think it would be great, I suppose the only concern would be that the games get spread out more and be thinner at each level? But I guess the traffic is so thick that this probably wouldn't be much of a concern? Be interested to hear more thoughts

Isn't this a good thing? Would you rather have regs bunched up together in same stakes?

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11-10-2011 , 10:24 PM

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There should be a option box where u'd enter amount of value ur willing to gambol before lobby is created, then anyone could sit u.
I would become the greatest 69,69$ reg there has ever lived

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11-10-2011 , 11:10 PM

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That's a great idea!

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11-11-2011 , 06:24 AM

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Originally Posted by genher

Good idea!

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11-11-2011 , 07:48 AM

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Originally Posted by fastcolt

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/48.../#post29762836

I DO NOT cite bad connections you can see the other tables continue to work smoothly while the actual table itself only pops up 26 seconds POST villain joining my table

I DO NOT claim to have bad connection, i also really doubt i have you can see all other tables continuingly to work proper and completely lagg free

i have one wired connection directly to inet acces which is the highest speed possible purchasable in belgium
and i have one backup connection lieing next to computer ready to plugg in at any time

yet support keeps saying hmmm must be your connection can you please send network status report one more time??

Has anyone else ever experienced anything like this/what did they do to fix it?

I've brought that thread to the attention of the appropriate person. Thanks for offering such a clear video showing the issue. You may be contacted to ask for your technical logs to help determine the issue.

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Originally Posted by omg sea monkeys

OBV software error.

I have been on both sides with first hand folded within 10s of table opening. Often the table opened and I was up or down 10 chips.

IMO it is to do with a delay in opening the table at the server side. Maybe a bottleneck during busy periods.

Stars can't admit this as they would have a nightmare trying to deal with all the complaints etc.

With respect to PokerStarsSteve I would be interested in hearing what Stars would do for affected players if it found to be a server/software error, bearing in mind we pay huge amounts of rake.

When compensation is considered, either due to player request or due to us thinking it's appropriate, it often takes quite a lot of time to come to a decision as it's important to get it right. It wouldn't be appropriate or efficient to initiate a decisionmaking process for a hypothetical. We cross such bridges as we come to them.

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11-11-2011 , 08:23 AM

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thank you steve, im very tilted already because i feel like pokerstars support doesnt grasp the issue correctly even after me sending em the video

they basically said HMMM Maybe buy a new router, then again, we dont guarantee that will fix it

...

I mean... you expect better

however steve always does the best he can ! so ty

Ill prolly even miss out on my 200/300KVPP milestones because of this thing occuring so often to me, but i obviously cant continue playing STs untill its fixed because look at the math;

Imagine a 100$ HU ST stars

20 chips = 4$ worth (in those)
because chipEV = $ EV in all husngs.

in other words, if a 100$ Superturbo HUSNG stars and you autofold the first hand you lose t20

or 4$ of average profit of that game, since your average profit per game (if you are good) will only be 3$, you already have a -1$ profit for that game, in other words, making these unbeatable...

Last edited by fastcolt; 11-11-2011 at 08:28 AM.

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11-11-2011 , 08:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Deepak

There should be a option box where u'd enter amount of value ur willing to gambol before lobby is created, then anyone could sit u.
I would become the greatest 69,69$ reg there has ever lived

horrible idea.
think it through... there would be gazillion lobbies. HT would be dead like HU Cash!

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11-11-2011 , 08:58 AM

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11-11-2011 , 09:27 AM

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i understand the math behind it..but how the **** +- 1 bb = +-4% roi? seems too high to be true, there must be something off

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11-11-2011 , 10:25 AM

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intuitively it does seem wrong, but purely math based

1bb out of 25
=
1/25th of buy in

?

should be right no?

if anyone thinks this is wrong or KNOWS it is wrong, feel free to explain/correct

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11-11-2011 , 10:40 AM

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Chip10Leader

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Originally Posted by fastcolt

i obviously cant continue playing STs untill its fixed because look at the math;

Imagine a 100$ HU ST stars

20 chips = 4$ worth (in those)
because chipEV = $ EV in all husngs.

in other words, if a 100$ Superturbo HUSNG stars and you autofold the first hand you lose t20

or 4$ of average profit of that game, since your average profit per game (if you are good) will only be 3$, you already have a -1$ profit for that game, in other words, making these unbeatable...

i know this bug, but sometimes i just lose the small blind, often i don't lose anything, and even more often is my opponent who misses the first hand. No way the bug makes games unbeatable, unless you actually start with 480 chips every game

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11-11-2011 , 10:53 AM

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i dont want to say this excuses my poor results at pokerstars or anything

but as you can see in the video i uploaded i often start with t450 t400 even

which happens 1 out of 5-6 games it seems

So i do think this should urgently be fixed, and asking to do so, is not an overreaction. Esp not given the amount of rake we pay.
just because it doesnt seem to occur as often for you and if it does in a more mild manner, doesnt seem like a reason to advocate not fixing it.

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11-11-2011 , 11:43 AM

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don't get me wrong, i deff think it should be fixed, i just thought you saying "obviously i can't play until this is fixed" is a bit of an overreaction. altough it might be that i ran good in this.