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03-12-2011 , 11:07 PM
Ummm profit off of everyone?
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03-12-2011 , 11:09 PM
this is gonna be good for the games
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03-12-2011 , 11:12 PM
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Originally Posted by yaqh
this is gonna be good for the games
This anonymous AIMer believes it will have a very small impact:

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way to use your image to rip people off
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03-12-2011 , 11:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Honey Badger
What are you going to do when half of the HU reg player pool is in the program?

increase cost.

demand increases> lower supply ( raising price)>profit

using an equilibrium ofc
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03-12-2011 , 11:19 PM
I'm headed out for dinner/the night, will be back to answer more questions/emails/PMs late night or tomorrow.
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03-12-2011 , 11:20 PM
Does anyone else who's participating in this play at Stars ?

I'd like to use the $225 option and am looking for a way to send Mersenneary the money on FT, but don't have any account there, so I'm not sure about what to do.

/Edit: Posted in the transfer thread
http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...ostcount=95686, have never done this in my life.

Last edited by jackoneill; 03-12-2011 at 11:47 PM.
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03-12-2011 , 11:23 PM
Well that was me and ur using it as an argument that it wont affect the games much

So then in my oppinion ur using ur image to rip people off or it will be bad for the games?

Either scenario is not good for me and im sure a lot of others fit into the category with me.

Good for u though props
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03-12-2011 , 11:32 PM
frankly, i see alot of people hating on it, but i dont think its all that bad, i think mers is gonna put in a ****ton of hours and hours of work into this and i dont think he is rippin people off... i dont think every coach should employ a group teaching thing like this tho, but mers, with teaching experience, i think is most likely to pull it off and create something good for both students and him

just my 2 cents tho
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03-12-2011 , 11:35 PM
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Originally Posted by CutchaLosses
Well that was me and ur using it as an argument that it wont affect the games much

So then in my oppinion ur using ur image to rip people off or it will be bad for the games?

Either scenario is not good for me and im sure a lot of others fit into the category with me.

Good for u though props
I'm just laughing at you. I expect to help my students a ton. I don't expect to make Primo homeless. I don't think good players are going to be scared of something like this.

It's unseemly to bash it if that's what you're worried about though.
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03-12-2011 , 11:37 PM
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frankly, i see alot of people hating on it, but i dont think its all that bad, i think mers is gonna put in a ****ton of hours and hours of work into this and i dont think he is rippin people off... i dont think every coach should employ a group teaching thing like this tho, but mers, with teaching experience, i think is most likely to pull it off and create something good for both students and him

just my 2 cents tho
Only wadz is hating and I think he might be joking.
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03-12-2011 , 11:39 PM
for the record, i was also hating.
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03-12-2011 , 11:41 PM
I dont care if u coach people or improve people i just think its a ripoff what ur offering. Ur offering for 225 a month 4 hour group sessions with 5-10 people in it anf access to a private discussion board.
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03-13-2011 , 12:01 AM
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Originally Posted by CutchaLosses
I dont care if u coach people or improve people i just think its a ripoff what ur offering. Ur offering for 225 a month 4 hour group sessions with 5-10 people in it anf access to a private discussion board.
dude stop being such a prick ur awful

stop being such a dick, get ur head in reality and realise ur awful get real stop beggin ppl like mers to stop sitting you ur already sat 4 life u suck so insanely bad. u make empty threats and talk **** constantly and ur legit ******ed.

so stfu hu4rollz right now ur awful

it's clear mersenneary is a natural teacher and has put a lot of effort into this so stop bein such a complete douche srsl
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03-13-2011 , 12:07 AM
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dude stop being such a prick ur awful

stop being such a dick, get ur head in reality and realise ur awful get real stop beggin ppl like mers to stop sitting you ur already sat 4 life u suck so insanely bad. u make empty threats and talk **** constantly and ur legit ******ed.

so stfu hu4rollz right now ur awful

it's clear mersenneary is a natural teacher and has put a lot of effort into this so stop bein such a complete douche srsl
+1
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03-13-2011 , 12:08 AM
Why do mods get free coaching threads?

sounds awesome though dude, if only i was as smart as you and thought about this... I've had coaching page on site for like 3 months and got one enquiry! mbn to be YOU.
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03-13-2011 , 12:10 AM
Lol dude i made a coaching thread saying i could beat most 570 regs besides u. Anyways i can have my oppinions and u can have ura and im not the only one whp thinks what i said im just the one who said it. And as far as your hu for rollz offer no thank you
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03-13-2011 , 12:13 AM
Even thouhh i dont like thoac atleast he speaks up while people like jackoniel is on everyones balls
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03-13-2011 , 12:15 AM
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Lol dude i made a coaching thread saying i could beat most 570 regs besides u. Anyways i can have my oppinions and u can have ura and im not the only one whp thinks what i said im just the one who said it. And as far as your hu for rollz offer no thank you
ok w/e lets not de-rail this thread any further after this post. ur just being a dick, mers is a much more talented player/coach than you, and yet you feel the need to just bitch and hate even tho what he is offering is clearly for the benefit of forum members and not for profit.

he can make way more per hour than he;s offering here and you seem to think it's a rip off like wtf are you actually on drugs or just plain ******ed which is it coz i honestly cannot tell?

****in standing ovation from an empty room sir ****ing bravo sat for life as always
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03-13-2011 , 12:21 AM
Maybe in husngs he should be aftet how many games and time hea put into them ive played much less than him and u.

Im not the only one not liking this yet u only attack me. This is for profit. Maybe he can make more with variance but this is guar money
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03-13-2011 , 12:35 AM
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frankly, i see alot of people hating on it, but i dont think its all that bad, i think mers is gonna put in a ****ton of hours and hours of work into this and i dont think he is rippin people off... i dont think every coach should employ a group teaching thing like this tho, but mers, with teaching experience, i think is most likely to pull it off and create something good for both students and him

just my 2 cents tho
Yeah, he's definitely a great teacher - I really enjoyed watching his videos at HUSNG.com.

I've already had some coaching in the past, but I've never done anything in a group - pretty sure this'll be some very amazing experience for me.

It's not just playing super great in that one or two hours you booked with a couch, this is now continually working and improving over a full month.
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03-13-2011 , 12:38 AM
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I dont care if u coach people or improve people i just think its a ripoff what ur offering. Ur offering for 225 a month 4 hour group sessions with 5-10 people in it anf access to a private discussion board.
That's my feeling too.
The program is far from unique since many coach use that kind of system, a friend of mine was coached for full ring cash game by a CR coach and they had access to that kind of special forum and he said that it was really positive and that's why he barely visit 2+2.

I've some difficulty to assess the value of the one hour group coaching but that sound indeed weak for the price, and either you are subscribing to husng.com and you are paying an additional cost to get one of their coach to be active in their forum or you should save your money to get a subscription which will be cheaper and most likely more efficient content wise.
That doesnt look that good on paper, and to me asking some money to chiry to work on the already existent forum would be more effective and serve the same kind of purpose.
Maybe mers will prove us wrong but that will be really though to balance so that the time mers spend is worth it for him and for students aswell.
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03-13-2011 , 12:45 AM
I want to make sure i understand this

I ship $50 on tilt for a month of coaching

I agree to play 200 matches at at least $10

I play 200 HU matches $10+.50 on full tilt

200 matches × ($10 + .50) Total cost $2100
Lets say I Win 110 matchs × $20 Total winnings $2200
Real Profit $100

$100 x 15% your percentage

I owe you 15 more bucks. Then we do it again the next month.

Am I missing something?

BTW I don't have rakeback
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03-13-2011 , 12:50 AM
this does seem like a good idea, by the idea of someone feasibly paying $700 (assuming they have an awesome month) for one hour of group coaching and access to a forum seems a bit much. For people who are breakeven at the time of joining, potentially paying just $50 may on the other hand be a good deal - though it would seem logical to give an hours coaching up front, otherwise that first month you are taking 15% of their profits without even having little to no effect on the way they are playing.
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03-13-2011 , 01:08 AM
I used to play HU limit and I'm starting to get the same feeling I had back when The Bryce started making videos. That game went from incredibly profitable to dead in a year and a half. HU limit coaches came out of the woodwork and pretty soon there were 20+ regs filling the lobbies from 3/6 to 30/60 and not enough fish to go around. I don't know what kind of impact HUSNG.com is having and all of the relatively affordable coaching going on but I hope it doesn't end the same way as HU limit.

Whether this program is a good value or not - I don't know. If I was a break-even player at the $10s I would certainly give it a shot. If it is a successful program those break even $10 players might soon be playing the $50s.
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03-13-2011 , 01:22 AM
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I used to play HU limit and I'm starting to get the same feeling I had back when The Bryce started making videos.
Bryce should have stuck with limit hold em rather than real estate investing. One of the sad stories of poker. So smart yet so dumb.
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