All filthyvermin wanted to do was play poker. Black Friday had cut down the playerbase on Full Tilt, but there were still sufficient fish to go around in the superturbos. He thought he could survive on the online poker scene, but his fellow regs didn't agree.


filthyvermin has been killed. He was a

DO NOT POST DURING NIGHT.

Everyone with night actions, please send to me by 1am. Thanks!

Mod Announcement 1:

Clarification regarding the role of the angel: the village angel cannot protect the same person two nights in a row. The angel can protect themselves. Sorry for the omission.

Mod Announcement 2:

Clarification regarding votes and votecounts. The posted votecounts do not take into account doublevoter powers and thus are not the same as the "real" effective votecount.

Mod Announcement 3:

Don't talk about the game outside the thread! Very important.

Q + A with your mod


Answer: No, they don't. There's a "grace period" of 1 min where you can post at night (but try to stop posting by 8:00). However, only votes timestamped at 8:00:59 or earlier will be counted.


Answer: I use a random number generator to pick who dies.


Answer: No.


Answer: No. There's only one winner in this game. If the serial killer survives to final 5, and neither the village/wolves have won yet, then the game ends and the serial killer is the winner.


Answer: No. For reference, majority lynch means ending days early when one player has over half the votes. Generally, it's not enacted in games where voting powers (ie doublevoters) exist.


Answer: No. Someone who gets voted off is dead 100% of the time. The angel can only protect against night kills.

Inactive Players:
moteutsch
nine9

These players did not post on day 1. If they do not post on day 2, they will be subbed out.

IT'S STILL NIGHT DON'T POST

After the unfortunate events of yesterday, everyone was hoping for better news in the morning. The night, however, claimed two more lives.

The Americans sent a trained assassin after one of their primary targets. He didn't even have time to let out a scream before the end came.

Punch Dancer has been killed by the wolves. He was a

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Meanwhile, a lone ranger was wreaking his own brand of havoc. He picked his own target, and he quickly died as well.

Kurru has been killed by the serial killer. He was a



Dead players
punch dancer - villager, killed n1
Kurru - villager, killed n1
filthyvermin - villager, lynched d1

Live players (27)
bambam192
bbq
berksonz
bob ross
chadders0
chugenemes
coffeeyay
dhcg86
donjonnie
duncelanas
earl
hookt
IheardJoeBlows
jackoneill
jspazz
karlizl
lolsteamroller
mersenneary
moteutsch
nine9
polycarpus
raised by jews
sheerb
spamz
tamas6
yaqh
znark86

IT IS NOW DAY

So pretty obvious that that the serial killer, double voting wolf, or both are within the people who voted for filthy, my first thought was that it is probably someone who voted earlier today, and then did not see come back at night to see how close it was, and ended up accidentally outing himself, but that basically describes 4 of the 5 people who voted for him, and the last one is jackoneill, who basically had to vote for someone in hopes of saving himself.

could be one of the 4 random people who voted for filthy early today and just didnt change away, i have a reasonable lean towards Jack though, mainly because of this :

unvote

dhcg86

Wtf. is that friend / no friend list about ?

He was voting for kurru or whatshisface, who was (because of his vote?) Tied up with filthy for the lead, so in this position Jack could potentially out himself as double voter if he did not change vote, so he does what he thinks is logical, to change to someone who is not likely to get a lot of votes anyway so he avoids having his doublevote exposing him. So he randomly changes to dhcg, then a bit later he realizes that if he does not change back to someone with more votes he is going to die, so he decides he has no choice but to vote for filthy even though he is probably out himself somewhat as doublevoter. Also keep in mind that if there is just 1 doublevoter in the group that voted for filthy, there would be a 50% chance that jack got killed, but filthy got killed so although it is not at all certain, there is a chance that both double voters are in that group.

Last but not least this also proves that nobody in the group that voted for jack is a doublevoter, which i guess can come in handy knowing later.

No idea what to make of either of the kills yet though. maybe some smart strawberry eating turtle or something will come explain this to us .

punchdancer was pretty active in trying to start wagons of voting, prob why he was offed, so if anything we should def be more organised and do that again.

i failed at voting last night because of the stupid time differences, so it turns out 8pm it 7pm on 2p2!?

I seriously considered unvoting for filthy last night after bbq asked me to reconsider. I don't think a wolf would do that considering we were headed to kill off a very important villager. Going through bbq's posts really leads me to believe he's a villager.

Chadders: EST is GMT-5

this statement struck me as pretty strange

if he was a villager how would he have "messed up". I kinda feel like he messed up his wolf game. but it was a death message and all of his posts have been pretty hard to understand so maybe he was apologizing for the LC vampire stuff.

I'm going to try to find key posts from the people who voted for filthy--we know there is a wolf and/or serial killer among them so I think that should be the first place to start looking/start wagons.

Since you're already posting Bob Ross why don't you explain why you voted for filthy even though a ton of people gave logical reasoning why it was a bad vote. Are you a wolf, and if not then why should we believe you aren't? Are you the serial killer? There were already suspicions yesterday...

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GL wolves. This village is awful!@!!!@#! :P


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i kinda think jack must be a villager from his talk, either that or a genius levels man, i just cant see him talking the whole day like he did when he would have been in contact with the wolves at some point, i feel like if they had discussed a strategy with him either that woldnt be it, or he would have changed his posting style after discussion, but he was just full on all day

so I was thinking in the shower about secure ways to get the seer's messages out.

what if we all write one post a day of the form:

"if I was seer, I'd say X was a Y"

where we all make stuff up except the seer posts his read from the night before. that way, he wouldn't out himself, but if he was ever confirmed as seer, we could go back and make sure we didn't lose any of his info.

is this a good idea?

perfect, that way we can get all the seers info 100% when he dies, gotta make sure everyone keeps on it though so nobody gives off clues that they are not the seer and makes it easier for the wolves.

i dunno, jack gave a pretty confused/shifty vibe yesterday. and then he avoided voting for filthy to save himself until the last minute as if maybe he was trying to avoid giving away his doublevoter status. so i think hes still pretty wolfy or possibly the serial killer?

tbh i dont really know what to think about the serial killer role but i guess wolf hunting should be the more important focus.

I definitely agree with looking at all of filthy's voters.

I didn't change my vote because I didn't understand why filthy was making this huge show of helpfulness toward villagers right off the bad. I'm new to the game and read the strategies, which noted that wolves need to get villagers riled up right away, so it looked wolfy to me.

While I certainly now appreciate punch dancer and filthys genuine help, I was too cautious at the time to think it was sincere. With so many suggestions to let filthy live but keep a close eye on him, I strongly considered unvoting but I had to work for a couple hours (6:30-8:30) and couldn't make any last minute changes or even consider them.

I'm not a wolf by the way. Also, where did you read these "suspicions" of me being the serial killer? Maybe in the wolf chat?....

edit: *right off the bat* not right off the bad.

the wolve are 6 strong and at the time of going to night there seemed no effort to protect jack at all, or any last minute changes to filthy to put his votes over the top, i would think it may have been relatively easy for the wolves to stop the death of jack if they wanted to

^ yea thats true, i'm leaning towards serial killer for jack but who knows. maybe he was just sleep deprived

i think people who voted for filthy are our best candidates for wagoning today. in addition to one of them necessarily being a double voter, i still really dont see why anyone would have voted for filthy. it makes no sense. wouldnt surprise me if there were several wolfs in there.

so yea we should start going over the 5 guys in that list. maybe we could each take one of them and go back, multiquote all the guy's posts, and do a sort of analysis.

jump on it if you want, i have to run to campus, will be afk for a couple hrs.

Bob Ross posts 1st post then takes a break for a long while, then attacks filthy. But then again, could be a little too obvious wolf behaviour to really be a wolf. But he still has my vote for now based on other stuff as well

I feel like I was part of starting the whole coffeeyay wagon. I still do not trust this dude at all. Would not surprise me if he is a wolf that realized when there was a good chance he was gonna get most votes he started to defend filthy so we would put them on the same team once we saw coffee was a wolf, and vote out filthy, one of our most experienced villager the next round.

But OTOH if coffee is a villager he seems very helpful, so I'll leave him for now.

So it is day now, and I must admit, I'm very, very surprised to still be alive.

I'm at the office right now and can't post very much, so lemme just give you a quick recap of what I think happened last night.

Let's start with me. I think it has become clear now that I can't be the double-voter. Why ? Well, it's all very simple. Someone with such great powers is almost certainly also the pack leader, the Alpha. And why would the Alpha take such strange lines to save himself, exposing his true identity - instead of just calling the pack for help. As the pack leader, it would have been very simple to save myself and kill filthy without revealing the secret.

bbq can't be a wolf either - the pack would have done everything in their powers to guard and protect the secret. Voting against me was basically voting against their pack, knowing that he'd risk revealing the secret.

So what about Duncelanas ? I doubt that he's a wolf either since he stayed with coffee for so long. It doesn't make sense for the pack to willingly keep a tie between the target of their Alpha and some other guy - they'd just risk revealing that secret by doing so. I also don't think he had enough time to see my last vote change, quickly talk to the pack and then try this last second attempt at protecting the secret.

Now let's talk about the serial killer for a moment.

Why did he kill Kurras and not bbq ? Was he thinking Kurras was a wolf ? IMO the obvious choice for him would have been bbq - taking down the guy who's true identity has already been revealed, thus taking information away from the other players.

And it would have been absolutely foolish for the serial killer to kill me.

Because I already cleared myself from being a wolf - but I can't clear myself from being the serial killer at the moment.

Need to go back to the office, so can't check the forum within the next ~5 hours, sorry guys.

I think hookt is a wolf.

I was the first one to vote for filthy because he was "stirring **** up" and he jumped right on, quoting me saying "I was thinking the same". Shortly after he votes for filthyvermin.

Then after it's strongly heading toward filthy getting lynched, he says this...

So hookt first casually agrees with me that filthy was stirring **** up, but then goes back later and says he really didn't? Then changes his vote to coffee because he was wolfy in the beginning?

I also noticed that hookt is from sweden and he was on 2p2 verrry late at his time last night, so I'm pretty positive this guy is a wolf.