Unlikely he will "STACK" you.... unless he manages to double up vs someone first

GL with is though Pita, interested to see how you get on and if it works for you.

you gonna make some videos of you playing it, or just hand history videos?

Because when I buy in for 65bb I force everyone with 100bb to play with 65bb. The main edge I'll have is that ranges are different preflop so other people will be making a lot of mistakes there, and postflop SPR is different that what people are used to although this isn't that big of a deal. If you buy in for 65bb and play 1000 hands you'll notice you're in a lot more difficult situations than you normally are in just because you're not used to the stack size.

I might in the future, I don't really think I should now. I'll do a lot of hand history videos but I'm going to do that for the hands I've already posted in here first so that might be in a month or so.



And for those of you who missed it:

1.35/100 at 50nl

You almost certainly will not be put in more difficult situations playing with a 65bb stack. They may seem more difficult, but it's just because you aren't used to playing with this stack. I haven't went over any maths to know this, it just seems logical since 65bb < 100bb.

out of interest, if you have such an astounding edge at 65bbs why have you wasted 6 weeks of this year playing 100bbs

.... i think i might know the answer teehee

#hatersgonhate

Imo, haters and trolls should gtfo. OP can play whatever he chooses, and if he gains/loses an edge/becomes a nuisance at the tables then so be it.

No, Stars doesn't require you to be a winning player nor do they require you to play 100bb stacks to become a Stars pro. They choose their Stars reps by how the person presents themselves, and the ability to be an ambassador for them.

Although OP, you really do hate money by giving out these freerolls.

I know that if someone has spent the same amount of time playing each stack size 65bb will probably be easier, but someone who has always played at 100bb will come across more situations where they don't know what to do and will make mistakes.

I didn't know how to play 65bb

**** it gl

Yeah +1 to what z0mgtiltz said.



No need for comments like this imo.

Thanks for the support guys


I didn't play much today since I was looking over some of the stuff I did over the summer. I found that I forgot a lot of the stuff I learned and I also found a lot of mistakes that I made back then. There are some things I wrote which don't make sense and I'm not sure if it's wrong or incomplete or that I just thought I'd never forget it so I skipped a lot of steps and now I'm just having trouble filling in the blanks. I'm probably going to spend a bit more time on this tomorrow.



Hand 51:

What do you mean pita?

Why will it "probably" be easier??

Pretty much every type of poker you will be facing situations where they dont know what to do and will make mistakes.

But why will 100bb, see more of these than 65bb??

"putting 100bb regs into unusual spots" doesnt make up for the fact you miss 35bbs for value everytime you get stacks in

This

I really wonder what the average short stacker reg makes in terms of bb/100, any ideas?

they definately cant make more than 2bb longterm. there is a cap for how much your winrate can be that correlates to stacksize

Because there are less possible situations with 65bb. When you've always played 100bb you have faced a lot of situations for 100bb already and then when you switch to 65bb you will see more situations that you haven't seen before.

They miss 35bb of value too so it should balance out.

This is true but it isn't true that a similar-skilled deeper stacked player will have a better winrate for all tables.

not necessarily but the deeper you play then your potential winrate is higher

as for 35bbs balancing out, you also lose 35bbs vs fish when they stack off incorrectly which happens way way way more frequently than swapping coolers w regs

i really think you are hurting yourself both by bb/100 as well as improving as a player by playing 65bbs but does not seem like you are going to change this so keep doing what you do, gl with your challenge

I think chiego is making a valid point.

Also, in that same train of thought, you mentioned about 100bb stacks:

"They miss 35bb of value too so it should balance out."

This is really only true if you're stacking off agaisnt them with the worst hand. If you're consistently putting in your stack ahead of your opponent, 65bb is not a better way for you to approach the table. Those 35bbs will not 'balance out', they'll simply be bets that you're missing.

Unless you're deliberately trying a short stack strategy for the time being, the whole 65bb approach just seems like scared money to me. Obviously you're the only one who knows each hand you've been playing and how they turn out, but if you're winning with the 65bb stack, I don't think that it's exclusively because you're playing a 65bb stack.

Anyway, good luck to you, I like seeing how your game evolves. US resident, so no bb/100 guess for me. But lets see you put >5+/100!

As I've said before I'm doing this for coaching, I have an amount of hands where I am staked to midstack ZOOM and I'm not going to back out of this agreement since it's well worth it to give up a part of my profit to get coaching.

I'm not sure what I'm going to do after yet, but of course the plan isn't to never buy in for 100bb or to leave profitable tables just because my stack size gets too big. If I play normal tables my best option is probably going to buy in for whatever worse players have for the reasons chiego said and as I get better I will probably be buying in for 100bb more and more often. If I want to keep playing ZOOM I will have to switch back to 6max to move up, right now there is no plan to do that but we'll see what happens in a few months.


Here are the final guesses for my winrate. GL Craigster1!

-3.00 ty71087
1.35 Billion$Guy
2.35 Micro Zoom Addict
3.50 YaMIZNoGouD
4.00 dissection
4.01 B Champman
4.30 Declanisfolding
7.00 FrankShank
18.20 Craigster1

Can I still sneak in? I'll take 5.10

GL!

can i sneak in too for 3.49 please?

Sure guys, no more though since I'm posting my results so far



-3.00 ty71087
1.35 Billion$Guy
2.35 Micro Zoom Addict
3.49 dirrrr
3.50 YaMIZNoGouD
4.00 dissection
4.01 B Champman
4.30 Declanisfolding
5.10 joshmeyer
7.00 FrankShank
18.20 Craigster1


Today's graph:


I also have a new post on studying on my blog if anyone is interested, you can find the link in the second post in this thread.

Hand 52: Villain is 13/12


Hand 53: Villain is 19/16.

if i was you, id stay away from the ZOOM games, much more profit at the reg 6max tables, especially if you can 12+ table them comfortably, pretty easy at 25nl.... 50nl would be tougher... but then again so is 50nl zoom

bet you wish you was 100bb in them 2 spots

even though the 2nd guy sucked out

Right now I'm just playing whatever I'm told and that's probably going to be FR ZOOM for a while.

I'm not sure how many tables I can comfortably play... I played 6-9 tables when I played 6max and I know I can 4 table ZOOM really easily. I played 12+ FR at the start of this year and that didn't go well. I suppose I'd get a lot less hands/hr if I played normal games so maybe ZOOM could be more profitable just because of the extra hands.

Being deeper would have been nice for those but I'm glad I didn't have 100bb in a few hands today.



Hand 54: BB is 20/16 over 214 hands and UTG+2 is 40/0 over 10 hands. Should I raise flop? I want UTG+2 to call but he might call a raise with the hands that would call anyways.

if I'm a 20/16 and you raise that flop after limping utg the first think i will think is set.
But there are lots of cards that with come on the turn that will kill any action though, like a K,Q,J,A, also 4,5 are bad T & 8 fill straights, 3 handed I think raising the flop is the best play here