Thanks TGrinder!


Tomorrow I'll start going through the numbered hands in this thread and recording some commentary on them. I'll talk as much as I can about the hands and split it up into 10-15 minute videos which will be released every few days.

After that I'm going to be switching to ZOOM and playing a very different style.

Do u play fulltime? work? School ?

keep up the good work

I'm in school, I finish next year and I might play full time after that depending on how much I make at poker, what jobs I can get, where I want to live, etc.

I've been buying in short at ZOOM and so far it's been working well.


Hand 43: Villain is 22/13 over 23 hands


Hand 44: Villain is 30/20 over 10 hands

Not sure if a ssing stars pro would go down too well.

A member of Team Online is a SS.

someone's going on my scum list if they continue this short stacking business

+1

Probably the worst form of poker!!

Especially the ones who 3bet fold in mp putting in 20% of their stack.


But if its making you money, then go for it i say

I think that's the point... he's not very well liked.

I'm buying in for 65bb so I'm really a midstacker, I don't know if people dislike this or not but I think at most only partly scum.

I don't understand the 3bet fold comment... what's so bad about that? When you buy in for 100bb you 4bet fold in mp putting in 20% of your stack.

because if your 3betting in mp, then you are 3 betting an UTG and EP range, which is genuinely going to be very strong anyway.

3betting these isnt that bad as you rep a big hand in doing so, but there is no room for maneuverability vs a ss, so they will just be getting shipped on a lot by JJ etc that might otherwise flat vs a full stack thats 3betting.

So imo its pretty bad to be 3bet folding in mp vs ep opens... otherwise just flat and play IP



yeah in mp you do 4bet fold, but thats vs later ranges, as the 3bettor will most likely have position, and flatting 3bets oop is bad, so its usually 4bet call/fold
Also a lot of these 4bets will be in the blind wars, so more dynamics and weaker ranges

im no ss expert, but 3bet folding vs ep opens in mp seems bad to me, but ive never tried that strategy

The shortstacker should be 3bet/folding something... if he isn't then the other guy will only 4bet hands that beat him, and then the shortstacker's weakest hands will be losing. 4bettor needs 50% to 4bet and shortstacker needs 40% to call but I don't think you can find a range where 4bettor has only hands with 50%+ equity against 3bettor's range and 3bettor has only hands with 40%+ equity against 4bettor's range except when each player only has AA, and that's obviously not right.

Playing exploitative I don't know, maybe against some players you shouldn't ever 3bet/fold but they'd have to be 4betting a lot which I don't think most people do especially in early positions.

obviously ss have to 3bet fold sometimes, but vs an ep or utg open its just bad imo.

dont see many people stacking off with wide ranges vs ss 3bet in mp from utg though, dont think anyones going below QQ to be honest, and id give SS a range of calling a 4bet like AK, AA, KK, QQ, (JJ, 1010) occasionally, at 25nl limit that is.

What you're suggesting is pretty terrible, why does the 4bettor have QQ if he doesn't beat any of the 3bettor's calling range? If you're 4bet shoving too light that's probably why you're having trouble against short stackers. And if you're only 4betting KK and AA then you're likely going to be folding to 3bets too much, so the shortstacker's going to 3bet you and fold, so then you need to 4bet him light, QQ and AK didn't work so you need to have bluffs.



My results today sucked but I had a Valentines Day miracle, my HM2 ran all day without crashing

Hand 45: SB is 33/6 with 6% 3bet and UTG+2 is 27/20


Hand 46:


Hand 47:

Hand 48: Weeeeeeeeeee! The rest of this hand is on my blog with gifs
Poker Stars, $0.10/$0.25 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 9 Players

BTN: $46.81 (187.2 bb)
Hero (SB): $16.25 (65 bb)
BB: $15.22 (60.9 bb)
UTG+1: $53.80 (215.2 bb)
UTG+2: $29.71 (118.8 bb)
MP1: $41.94 (167.8 bb)
MP2: $29.41 (117.6 bb)
MP3: $39.44 (157.8 bb)
CO: $28.30 (113.2 bb)

Preflop: Hero is SB with 3 9
7 folds, Hero raises to $0.75, BB calls $0.50

Flop: ($1.50) 9 3 3 (2 players)
Hero bets $1, BB raises to $2, Hero raises to $3, BB raises to $4, Hero raises to $5

Hehe, good one ! I like the 'gif story' behind it

what are you talking about?

you arent even taking positions into context here, you really think that and UTG range will be 4 betting lighther than a SS calling range of 10s+.

"QQ and AK didn't work so you need to have bluffs."
what are you on about? How can QQ and AK not work?

BTW i never said im having trouble vs shortstackers, its like you dont read what im saying, and then just start rambling on about other concepts and stuff

Position doesn't matter to the 4bettor since there's no other players behind when it gets to his action, all that matters is 3bettor's ranges for 3betting and calling a 4bet which you listed. Against AK, AA, KK, QQ where the 3bettor never folds to a 4bet if the 4bettor has AK and QQ that's a huge mistake.

I don't think I worded my QQ and AK don't work correctly, I mean they don't work as value hands if 3bettor is never folding, if he is folding though you can 4bet them as bluffs (they don't have enough equity against the calling range but they also need the least fold equity to become profitable)

I didn't go on about other concepts, I directly explained why your claim was wrong. Then you just listed a range where the guy who isn't a shortstacker (you) is making a mistake against the shortstacker and I explained why it's a mistake.

im pretty sure that gettin AK and QQ in vs a SS calling range of 10s+ and AK is profitable even if he never folds.

If ss is 3bet folding some of these hands then thats just bad, and he should be folding.]

if hes 3betting wider as a bluff, then i believe its also bad vs ep opens and utg, as he will just get shipped on or folds, whereas its ok to 3bet bluff deeper, as if he calls, you can play postflop IP, you cant do that when SS

Yeah, I agree with the first part... pretty bad for the shortstacker to call with TT or JJ in that spot though.

I hope you mean just calling, those hands are going to be a profitable flat against the opener's range which has smaller pairs.

The last thing is a good point, I'd be interested in what a shortstacker's hand chart says... I think it would probably try to be close to GTO and have the bluffs but possibly they're just nits. I can't imagine a good shortstacker 3bet calling with TT or JJ in EP though.

Hand 49:

Forgot to post my review of some hands from the thread here, I'll be doing this for most of the hands I posted.

Yeah i meant 3bet folding is bad, and they should be flatting hands they arent willing to call shoves with.

not sure if what your saying about "good shortstackers" calling with these hands, as i believe the good shortstackers play higher limits, and they are probably more agressive and pretty standard hands to stack off with vs certain opponents.

but at 25nl, the SS are just pretty bad, and play very tight, some open quite loose but you dont see them shipping in that light vs 3bets.... when they do they usually have QQ+ even in the late positions.

So coming back to what i was saying earlier about 3bet folding in MP, at 25nl i think its gonna cost more than it will gain, but as i said im no expert.

theres also an argument that, because people are so tight and dont like to get in vs shortstackers so light because of their reputation, then maybe they should be 3 bet folding in MPs, and folding to shoves... just gonna be difficult when SS gets called and then its do i cbet or not, putting in 50% of stack and then maybe folding.

Yeah, I guess good shortstackers just don't really play 25nl... but most of them are probably still better at 40bb preflop play than people buying in for 100bb

I think 3betting and getting called EP should be really easy to play for a shortstacker, it's just like a 4bet pot 100bb deep. The raiser's range is polarized, he's in position, the caller's range is fairly small and face up, and there aren't that many options for bet sizing.

MIDSTACKING MADNESS FREEROLL

Inspired by everyone else giving away money in PG&C I'm going to do it too! I've recently started getting coaching for playing ZOOM with a 65bb stack, and whoever can guess closest to my winrate from Feb 11 to the end of the month will get that amount of bb shipped to them. There will be a winner for each stake I play but you only get one guess which will be counted for each stake (so I will send $0.25*guess for the closest at 25nl, $0.50*guess for the closest at 50nl, and so on).

To help you guess, here are my results so far:





Guessing will end on the 19th so people don't wait until the end when almost all hands are already played.

4.3 bb/100

GL