Ah yes, guy next to me books a first class flight then complains about Commerce charging $1 for bottled water for 20 minutes

Sounds like you've done at least decent in poker OP congrats. Just out of curiosity, how many hours per week did you average playing poker last year? And, what was your gross annual income during that time?

I'm probably not going to be answering this question anymore; I'm not as open as I used to be I suppose. Sorry!

Narrow ranging river spot where I wish I had called instead of folded yesterday. Villain is a solid pro who hero has played hundreds of PLO hours with but not that much NLHE. On the tighter side preflop, very aggressive on rivers. Hero's image is solid LAG.

5/10 NLHE, $1500 effective. Tight ABC rec player limp UTG, villain $50 in MP, stationy rec player call in HJ, hero call in SB with AJ, limper calls.

Flop KJ3, pot $210
Checks around.

Turn K, pot $210
Checked to villain who bets $150, only hero calls.

River 8, pot $510
Checked to villain who bets $375, hero folds.

OK so first the main factors to consider here. I'm at the top of my range barring unusual slowplays with trips. It's pretty much impossible for either of us to not have SDV here, s I'm heavily discounting airball bluffs. I suspect villain will cbet Kx+ almost always on the flop, so I'm heavily discounting those hands as well. Thus, I'm mainly facing a range of 6 combos of AJ and 6 combos of QQ. Against that exact range it would be a fold, however I think villain could have some combos of QJ played this way on all streets. While she may not always open offsuit combos preflop or valuebet it on the river, in addition to pot odds + other random hands, I prefer a call in retrospect.

I noticed that guy asked the same question in some other threads too..weird fella...dude got an envy thing going I think.

Well it doesn't really bother me that much but I've also given the answers he's looking for (winrate info) probably AT LEAST 15 times in this thread too lol, many times in great detail

Does he ever fold QQ? Does he call rivers with QJ?

I think that there may be better lines to take rather than check/call turn, check/decide river. If your image is laggy, I like lead turn lead river since by leading turn and river calling range can include a lot of worse hands and it becomes a great thin value spot.

If your image has a bit more fold equity, then we can pretty much ensure that V rarely wins the hand with QQ by x/r turn or x/r river (since we know he's betting thin). It's really tough for him to put you on QT or AQ since he blocks and those are the only hands in your range that he beats. So he can obv hero a x/r with QQ, but if he's doing that he's also going to do it with QJ so you actually break even vs his range combos if it turns out to be a thin x/r and not a bluff.

There's so few river spots that come up like this where it doesn't matter if you know whether you are bluffing or value betting since your not sure about his tendencies, but the times it's a value bet it breaks even and the times it's a bluff is +EV, so overall EV is going to be +.

what changed if you don't mind

It's all good, was just curious and too lazy to sift thru 300+ pages. GL with the poker endeavors.

lol. please quote where I've asked someone this recently.

I encourage all questions to be asked! That being said I may decline to answer some. You guys have a pretty good shot though my track record for answering questions in this thread has to be like 95%+

I wonder in the AJ hand....surely if we're thinking he never has a King, and we give him a range of QQ, Jx, that there may be merits to raising?

If we have a K we aren't leading this flop. If he has QQ then KJ and KT become our most likely kings, so are we showing any aggression on the turn?

And given villain history, we know that they're going to be aggressive, and they know we know that, so surely a xr river could lead villain to fold a good deal?

So I responded to this in general, but which post exactly were you referring to? Talking to someone else about this

Well when I say Kx+ is unlikely, I kind of discount it by washing it out along with random bluffs (at a ratio roughly weighted for pot odds). Raising hurts us more the larger this "wash" is, which wasn't entirely clear to me. I think raising has merit but I felt that targeting a range of basically exactly QQ and also AJ is a bit too narrow.

This seems to be backwards to me? In a metagame situation where both players know that villain bets rivers at a higher than usual frequency, then it would logically follow that villain should be calling against x/r's at a higher than usual frequency.

I mean the MAIN thing that changed is just I answered it so many damn times already I feel like I don't need to anymore lol

in addition to not getting as much enjoyment as I used to when writing in this thread (at the moment, it's cyclical :P)

in addition to being older

My other work that I've been focused on in the past 2 months has basically fallen through... pretty disappointed right now. I had really high hopes for it, oh well.

Curious what the other work was.

He was an extra in magic mike 3.

Lol lady announces last hand. She gets stacked, says "that was supposed to be my last hand!!" then rebuys

Here is an unusual spot that caught me off guard and I misplayed today. Just moved to main game from MM, first hand dealt in. 5/10. Villain ~35 year old nicely dressed asian in UTG limps, I overlimp A5 from MP, LP limp, SB complete, 5 ways to flop. $1500 effective.

A95, pot $50
Checked to me, I bet $40, folds to UTG who raises to $200 then says "I'll show you one if you show me one".

Best way to proceed?

Call and see if you can bink a spade on the turn.

If there's good reason to think he's actually going to show one, agree and show the A, play rest of hand as though you have AJ or something. If he shows a 9 you can just fold unless he's a ******.

(also just to confirm, live poker stereotype -> Asian = spaz, right)

I don't really see much value in seeing one of his cards (and in general have a rule against showing cards prior to the river), but if you are going to show you certainly never ever ever show first.

Well I think it's fair that I have to show first then he gets to choose which one given that it's my action. I guess he just had nothing at all though and I'm not even sure why he offered the deal since I showed a 5 (mistake, should have shown the A), then he showed a Q.

(I realize the comment above is concerned with angle shooting but that was not an issue here)

Been seeing this thread on and off in the PG&C thread for the past 3 years. Was never really interested because lol@livepoker. But boy did you prove me wrong, finally finished this behemoth. Keep up the great writing!

Showing the 5 is a very big mistake since we never cbet 5x which isn't at least two pair.