1.3+ is a ripoff. Yuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuup

Great job cashing. I'll be reading your thread again this time next year for the main event wisdom.

Did you cash?

Your sample size of a few hands is surely not enough to determine someone's long term ROI in the main event. If it's more than 30% which almost all of the 2p2 users are then selling at 1.3 will (in the long term) yield profit.

Congrats on your journey. Tournament poker is a different beast than cash, and live can be really frustrating!

Good run man.

Sometimes you can tell if a person is good or not by one hand.

Keep buying these randoms at 1.3 and 1.4

I'm sure one of them will eventually do something and then you can say I told you so.

Also. Taxes are a thing

There's a big difference between subjective value and intrinsic value.

Just because people sell and other people buy something at price X is completely disconnected to whether it's worth X.

If I had Timex's roll I would immediately book against just about everyone of those guys.

Since Timex has Timex's roll, that's probably why he did it.

The main event is also not as soft as people make it out to be. Great tournament with lots of amateurs, but lots of good players as well.

Like every legit mtt pro on the planet is playing it combined with a lot of good to great cash game players. I've heard it's extremely soft for a 10k but nowhere as near as soft as like your average 1600 @ the Venetian.

The song is from the end of the seminal Eastwood movie The Good The Bad and The Ugly.

The Ecstasy of Gold.

+1; you can frequently deduct if a player sucks or is clueless by hearing them talk or seeing a few hands.

And a point that is often missed is that by the time you're playing for the real money, most villains are good be really good.

Nice run, Rob. Sounds like you and I use a similar style of play in tourneys. I open to 3x until the effective stacks are below 100bb then reduce accordingly. I also played with some "name" tourney players who I thought were not very good at NLHE. Lots of the MTT pros are button clicking and I also wonder if they know why they're doing 90% of what they're doing...

It's definitely sickening to get knocked out knowing how long we have to wait to play it again. Better luck to both of us next year!

Solid effort, congrats on the cash!

No, got in AA pre 3 way for 180k pot at 1200/2400 about 100 away from the money; old man spiked a king . Had a great time playing but you're right about it feeling way worse than losing any cash game hand.

ugh, sorry to hear.

Unless you win a tourney you leave pissed off. Could win 3 million and still want to puke in your mouth afterwards.

Nice post. Just went thru a rather downswing and reading this def helped my motivation. Good luck to you sir

PM me please. I invest an need the inside scoop.

Nice write-up.

Next year, or the year after, or the year after.

I'm sure it's no news that poker is dead and everyone is solid

I'm just saying basing your opinion on a very personal (and possibly emotional) view of a rather small sample of hands of some players cannot possibly be the determination of whether they are a good or bad buy at 1.3 in the ME.

The hand at the final table last year where Labari checked behind on the river HU with a set of 5's on a not too scary board.

After seeing that one hand do you feel you would probably conclude Labari isn't exactly the cream of the crop?

Now it's possible since it was the final table that was nerves in his case.

But if you saw a guy play that way during the earlier days of the main event, don't you feel you could probably conclude a lot about his over all skill level from that one hand?

No you can't. Maybe the opponent had a strength tell that he misread. There could be a ton of reasons. Small sample size means just that.

A few years ago in a $1k WSOP circuit event I folded a set of 3s on the river when there were no flushes (flush draw on flop) and just one straight out there on the river early in the day. Board was 973ss, turn 2, river J. Guy rivered a set of J. Pot was about 100 big blinds and I had 40 left after the hand, and I ended up winning the tournament for $50k and a gold ring. Someone could have seen that hand and concluded I'm a horrible player, scared money, etc. and I'm not worth the 1.2 MU I charged on the MP for that tournament back then.

There's like a million reasons ESPECIALLY in a tournament like the ME someone can play a certain hand one way. Judging his ROI as being less than 30% from that one hand (or maybe a small sample) is not correct.

And not to mention Rob wrote that after he busted to probably these "bad" guys who sell on the MP. Why does he care about what people sell at? It's what HE can sell at.

For somebody to be selling @ 1.3:1 to be a good investment their ROI needs to be much higher than 30%

I personally love it when Rob goes on his self-aggrandizing, condescending rants - how boring would this blog be otherwise? I don't think it's mutually exclusive for Rob to be a self-aware, understanding good person that realizes that other people all have different lives and different truths they've discovered for themselves in their own personal journey...but also talks mad **** about people he thinks aren't up to par with how they're presenting themselves to the world. Politeness and empathy are better suited for real life interactions - in a text-based medium brutal honesty is way more fun.

Also I give Rob a pass on the tiny handful of legitimately cringey/eye-roll-inducing stuff he occasionally says because I get the vibe that his ego-feeding isn't out of insecurity, but out of a determination to never be mediocre which imo is way more forgivable.