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01-25-2011 , 03:03 AM
I've been playing online poker for 2 years now, and now my main focus is 6 max stt turbos. I've watched the 6 max stt turbo videos on cardrunners and I rose through the $3 and $6 levels. I'm currently stuck at the $13 level. It's been pretty brutal, not gonna lie. I've made goldstar for this month, so there's something positive.

When I'm not getting sucked out, cooler'd, and I'm winning half of my flips I've been able to make a good amount of money; that was my one upswing. When I'm losing the majority of my flips, running into aces, losing my 70% favorites (ex: AK v A8), and losing my 2:3 favorites (ex: AQ v KT) I lose a fair amount of money.

I've had two downswings, currently on the second one, and it seems that the past few days have just been brutal to me. I'm putting my money in as a favorite or as a coin flip, and I've just been getting destroyed.

So I'm making this thread to post interesting hands, spots that I'm confused with, to give me some extra motivation to continue though this second downswing, and to get some advice on moving up through stakes (brm tips, etc.).

So hopefully this will give me a fresh start, and a fresh outlook.

$6.50 Graph: ROI- 10.5, +$729.50, 1073 played

$13 Graph: ROI- 2.2, +$382.40, 1366 played


Current Bankroll: $1,832.88


Thanks,

-nixon
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01-25-2011 , 03:43 AM
Something I forgot to mention, I 6 table and I'm constantly adding table to stay at 6.

I was gonna post some hands from my most recent session, but my HEM won't respond.. I'm running bad in multiple poker related areas I guess.

I'll play tomorrow and hopefully HEM stops taking a ****, I'm not about to fly blind.
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01-25-2011 , 08:06 PM
So I forgot to make a goal, other than to climb the sng ladder.

My goal is to get ~2k to 10k

So this is a ship right? SB was running like 15/5.

Poker Stars $12+$1 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t50/t100 Blinds - 4 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter By DeucesCracked Poker Videos

BTN: t3470 34.70 BBs
SB: t2590 25.90 BBs
Hero (BB): t1270 12.70 BBs
CO: t1670 16.70 BBs

Pre Flop: (t150) Hero is BB with K Q
2 folds, SB calls t50, Hero raises to t1270 all in, SB calls t1170

Flop: (t2540) 5 6 A (2 players - 1 is all in)

Turn: (t2540) 2 (2 players - 1 is all in)

River: (t2540) T (2 players - 1 is all in)

Spoiler:
Final Pot: t2540
SB shows Ks Ad (a pair of Aces)
Hero shows Kc Qd (high card Ace)
SB wins t2540
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01-26-2011 , 06:37 PM
So far today ive played 5 tournaments, I won one, lost 3 flips, and lost QQ v AT the bubble.

I was the favorite each time- 57%, 50.1%, 50.2% and 67%

Odds of me losing all four of those?
9%
(.57*.501*.67*.502= 0.09)

This has become standard in my last hundred tournaments or so..

Last edited by TheNixonator; 01-26-2011 at 07:01 PM. Reason: forgot one of my flips
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01-27-2011 , 03:19 AM
Had some run good today. Won about $160, so I'm almost to my 2k starting point for my challenge.

Bankroll's at $1993.68

Can someone please explain why this hand is -$7.02 Ev?

Poker Stars $12+$1 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t100/t200 Blinds - 3 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter By DeucesCracked Poker Videos

BB: t970 4.85 BBs
BTN: t3855 19.27 BBs
Hero (SB): t4175 20.88 BBs

Pre Flop: (t300) Hero is SB with K K
BTN calls t200, Hero raises to t4175 all in, 1 fold, BTN calls t3655 all in

Flop: (t7910) Q J 7 (2 players - 2 are all in)

Turn: (t7910) 3 (2 players - 2 are all in)

River: (t7910) 4 (2 players - 2 are all in)

Final Pot: t7910
BTN shows 8 8 (a pair of Eights)
Hero shows K K (a pair of Kings)
Hero wins t7910
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01-27-2011 , 05:44 AM
woot woot
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01-27-2011 , 03:16 PM
subscribed, gl dude im a fellow 6 max turbo grinder we will probably clash sooner or later haha
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01-27-2011 , 06:12 PM
what kind of br management are u using?
im assuming ur gonna want 100 bis per level, so moving up would require u to have 2500 and then move to the $25 level. have u ever thought of doing 1/2 and 1/2? so if ur doing 6 tbls...then u do 3 13s and 3 25s...25+13=39 then divide that by 2 gives u an avg of $19 game..so u would be rolled for this at ur current br
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01-27-2011 , 08:22 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by mfonte85
what kind of br management are u using?
im assuming ur gonna want 100 bis per level, so moving up would require u to have 2500 and then move to the $25 level. have u ever thought of doing 1/2 and 1/2? so if ur doing 6 tbls...then u do 3 13s and 3 25s...25+13=39 then divide that by 2 gives u an avg of $19 game..so u would be rolled for this at ur current br
Judging from some of my swings, I'm gonna have a more conservative approach. So I'm thinking more like 150ish bi's, and my roi isnt that great in the 13's so I wanna get that up a bit before moving up.

I'll definitely try that 1/2 and 1/2 idea once I get going.
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01-27-2011 , 08:24 PM
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Originally Posted by dlc85
subscribed, gl dude im a fellow 6 max turbo grinder we will probably clash sooner or later haha
More than likely lol, what stakes you at?
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01-27-2011 , 09:19 PM
Been playing for over an hour now, running pretty good. I'm not gonna bother to see how much I'm up until im done with this session.
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01-27-2011 , 09:37 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by TheNixonator
More than likely lol, what stakes you at?
Just started a thread on here. guna start playing the $6's 2moro prob although im rolled for 13's and prob 25's I made a plan to start from bottom and beat every level. I have played the 13's before for about 1k-ish games around a 5-6% roi altough i mass table, Im a tilty mofo so like to play lots of games lol.

gl at tables
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01-27-2011 , 10:00 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by dlc85
Just started a thread on here. guna start playing the $6's 2moro prob although im rolled for 13's and prob 25's I made a plan to start from bottom and beat every level. I have played the 13's before for about 1k-ish games around a 5-6% roi altough i mass table, Im a tilty mofo so like to play lots of games lol.

gl at tables
Thanks, gl to you too bro
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01-27-2011 , 10:08 PM
Update:

Broke even after playing for 2 hours or so, won $15. My last 2 tournaments i busted with 88 v A7 (I flopped a flush draw and he rivered 2 outer), and my QQ v A8 (flopped my set and he got runner runner straight).

So if I manage to cash in those I might make a decent amount on the session.

Taking a break and I'll keep on keepin on.

Also: I sold my friend 40, but then I unlocked my first $50 stellar reward.

Bankroll: $2,018.68
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01-27-2011 , 10:22 PM
I've been a sit n' go grinder for a while though my best results have been from mtt's. is there any little tid bit of info that u can share to becoming a winning sng player? im following u and iownsouls threads and am enamored with the results u guys produce. gl at the tables
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01-27-2011 , 11:34 PM
PokerStars Game #56689482644: Tournament #358117552, $3.00+$0.25 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level VII (100/200) - 2011/01/27 22:19:36 ET
Table '358117552 1' 6-max Seat #6 is the button
Seat 5: txaggy1221 (4570 in chips)
Seat 6: mac5star (4430 in chips)
txaggy1221: posts the ante 25
mac5star: posts the ante 25
mac5star: posts small blind 100
txaggy1221: posts big blind 200
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to txaggy1221 [4d 4h]
mac5star: raises 400 to 600
txaggy1221: raises 1000 to 1600
mac5star: raises 2805 to 4405 and is all-in
txaggy1221: calls 2805
*** FLOP *** [3c Ac 9h]
*** TURN *** [3c Ac 9h] [9c]
*** RIVER *** [3c Ac 9h 9c] [As]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
txaggy1221: shows [4d 4h] (two pair, Aces and Nines)
mac5star: shows [Ts Tc] (two pair, Aces and Tens)
mac5star collected 8860 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 8860 | Rake 0
Board [3c Ac 9h 9c As]
Seat 5: txaggy1221 (big blind) showed [4d 4h] and lost with two pair, Aces and Nines
Seat 6: mac5star (button) (small blind) showed [Ts Tc] and won (8860) with two pair, Aces and Tens

this is how it ended n one
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01-27-2011 , 11:36 PM
did i play this one wrong? his stats at the time were 23/13. Pretty bad call imo.
PokerStars Game #56688996761: Tournament #358117752, $3.00+$0.25 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level IV (50/100) - 2011/01/27 22:05:27 ET
Table '358117752 1' 6-max Seat #5 is the button
Seat 1: crog71 (3130 in chips)
Seat 3: txaggy1221 (1965 in chips)
Seat 4: rockyfeo (2470 in chips)
Seat 5: sjokes (1435 in chips)
crog71: posts small blind 50
txaggy1221: posts big blind 100
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to txaggy1221 [4s 4h]
rockyfeo: folds
sjokes: raises 200 to 300
crog71: folds
txaggy1221: raises 1665 to 1965 and is all-in
sjokes: calls 1135 and is all-in
Uncalled bet (530) returned to txaggy1221
*** FLOP *** [9h 6d Js]
*** TURN *** [9h 6d Js] [Qc]
*** RIVER *** [9h 6d Js Qc] [6c]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
txaggy1221: shows [4s 4h] (two pair, Sixes and Fours)
sjokes: shows [9s Ks] (two pair, Nines and Sixes)
sjokes collected 2920 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 2920 | Rake 0
Board [9h 6d Js Qc 6c]
Seat 1: crog71 (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 3: txaggy1221 (big blind) showed [4s 4h] and lost with two pair, Sixes and Fours
Seat 4: rockyfeo folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: sjokes (button) showed [9s Ks] and won (2920) with two pair, Nines and Sixes
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01-27-2011 , 11:38 PM
And then this... There is apparently a K9 epidemic breaking out. played 4 finished 2nd in 2

PokerStars Game #56689348464: Tournament #358118072, $3.00+$0.25 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level VI (100/200) - 2011/01/27 22:15:39 ET
Table '358118072 1' 6-max Seat #6 is the button
Seat 1: Caraubas (2745 in chips)
Seat 2: henatyzen00 (3380 in chips)
Seat 3: golffrk (465 in chips)
Seat 5: txaggy1221 (1010 in chips)
Seat 6: d0nkkk (1400 in chips)
Caraubas: posts small blind 100
henatyzen00: posts big blind 200
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to txaggy1221 [6d 6s]
golffrk: folds
txaggy1221: raises 810 to 1010 and is all-in
d0nkkk: folds
Caraubas: folds
henatyzen00: calls 810
*** FLOP *** [9s 9h 3h]
*** TURN *** [9s 9h 3h] [8d]
*** RIVER *** [9s 9h 3h 8d] [8h]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
henatyzen00: shows [9d Kd] (a full house, Nines full of Eights)
txaggy1221: shows [6d 6s] (two pair, Nines and Eights)
henatyzen00 collected 2120 from pot
txaggy1221 finished the tournament in 5th place
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 2120 | Rake 0
Board [9s 9h 3h 8d 8h]
Seat 1: Caraubas (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 2: henatyzen00 (big blind) showed [9d Kd] and won (2120) with a full house, Nines full of Eights
Seat 3: golffrk folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: txaggy1221 showed [6d 6s] and lost with two pair, Nines and Eights
Seat 6: d0nkkk (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
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01-28-2011 , 12:01 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by txaggy1221
PokerStars Game #56689482644: Tournament #358117552, $3.00+$0.25 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level VII (100/200) - 2011/01/27 22:19:36 ET
Table '358117552 1' 6-max Seat #6 is the button
Seat 5: txaggy1221 (4570 in chips)
Seat 6: mac5star (4430 in chips)
txaggy1221: posts the ante 25
mac5star: posts the ante 25
mac5star: posts small blind 100
txaggy1221: posts big blind 200
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to txaggy1221 [4d 4h]
mac5star: raises 400 to 600
txaggy1221: raises 1000 to 1600
mac5star: raises 2805 to 4405 and is all-in
txaggy1221: calls 2805
*** FLOP *** [3c Ac 9h]
*** TURN *** [3c Ac 9h] [9c]
*** RIVER *** [3c Ac 9h 9c] [As]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
txaggy1221: shows [4d 4h] (two pair, Aces and Nines)
mac5star: shows [Ts Tc] (two pair, Aces and Tens)
mac5star collected 8860 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 8860 | Rake 0
Board [3c Ac 9h 9c As]
Seat 5: txaggy1221 (big blind) showed [4d 4h] and lost with two pair, Aces and Nines
Seat 6: mac5star (button) (small blind) showed [Ts Tc] and won (8860) with two pair, Aces and Tens

this is how it ended n one
If youre gonna continue the hand, the only option is to push. 20ish big blinds is a perfect stack to ship over the top with. A lot of the time villains gonna fold, and you'll build your stack. If he does call then hopefully you're a small favorite in a coin flip. You didnt make that big of a mistake, unfortunately he had tens.

Quote:
Originally Posted by txaggy1221
did i play this one wrong? his stats at the time were 23/13. Pretty bad call imo.
PokerStars Game #56688996761: Tournament #358117752, $3.00+$0.25 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level IV (50/100) - 2011/01/27 22:05:27 ET
Table '358117752 1' 6-max Seat #5 is the button
Seat 1: crog71 (3130 in chips)
Seat 3: txaggy1221 (1965 in chips)
Seat 4: rockyfeo (2470 in chips)
Seat 5: sjokes (1435 in chips)
crog71: posts small blind 50
txaggy1221: posts big blind 100
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to txaggy1221 [4s 4h]
rockyfeo: folds
sjokes: raises 200 to 300
crog71: folds
txaggy1221: raises 1665 to 1965 and is all-in
sjokes: calls 1135 and is all-in
Uncalled bet (530) returned to txaggy1221
*** FLOP *** [9h 6d Js]
*** TURN *** [9h 6d Js] [Qc]
*** RIVER *** [9h 6d Js Qc] [6c]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
txaggy1221: shows [4s 4h] (two pair, Sixes and Fours)
sjokes: shows [9s Ks] (two pair, Nines and Sixes)
sjokes collected 2920 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 2920 | Rake 0
Board [9h 6d Js Qc 6c]
Seat 1: crog71 (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 3: txaggy1221 (big blind) showed [4s 4h] and lost with two pair, Sixes and Fours
Seat 4: rockyfeo folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: sjokes (button) showed [9s Ks] and won (2920) with two pair, Nines and Sixes
This shove would work a lot better in the higher levels. At the $3 level youre gonna get called by hands that should be folding, and because they're not folding you lose fold equity. So it's not that bad of a shove, but seeing how most players are calling so wide, I think your best play is to wait for a premium hand.


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Originally Posted by txaggy1221
And then this... There is apparently a K9 epidemic breaking out. played 4 finished 2nd in 2

PokerStars Game #56689348464: Tournament #358118072, $3.00+$0.25 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level VI (100/200) - 2011/01/27 22:15:39 ET
Table '358118072 1' 6-max Seat #6 is the button
Seat 1: Caraubas (2745 in chips)
Seat 2: henatyzen00 (3380 in chips)
Seat 3: golffrk (465 in chips)
Seat 5: txaggy1221 (1010 in chips)
Seat 6: d0nkkk (1400 in chips)
Caraubas: posts small blind 100
henatyzen00: posts big blind 200
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to txaggy1221 [6d 6s]
golffrk: folds
txaggy1221: raises 810 to 1010 and is all-in
d0nkkk: folds
Caraubas: folds
henatyzen00: calls 810
*** FLOP *** [9s 9h 3h]
*** TURN *** [9s 9h 3h] [8d]
*** RIVER *** [9s 9h 3h 8d] [8h]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
henatyzen00: shows [9d Kd] (a full house, Nines full of Eights)
txaggy1221: shows [6d 6s] (two pair, Nines and Eights)
henatyzen00 collected 2120 from pot
txaggy1221 finished the tournament in 5th place
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 2120 | Rake 0
Board [9s 9h 3h 8d 8h]
Seat 1: Caraubas (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 2: henatyzen00 (big blind) showed [9d Kd] and won (2120) with a full house, Nines full of Eights
Seat 3: golffrk folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: txaggy1221 showed [6d 6s] and lost with two pair, Nines and Eights
Seat 6: d0nkkk (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
You only have 5 BB's here so 66's is definitely a hand you have to push with. You got it in as a coin flip, as far as I'm concerned, you did your job. Unfortunately the big blind was the big stack, so calling 4 more BB's with K9s isn't all that bad of a call. Nothing you can do though.
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01-28-2011 , 03:39 AM
Played for 3 hours or so. Broke even...
I was up a bit but my last 4 tournaments didnt turn out so well.

BR= 2,026.08
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01-28-2011 , 03:49 AM
hey guys just started taking poker serious this year had some coaching before the start of the year and im up about $170 this year playing the 3.25 turbos about 320 games or so so i will be checking this thread out to learn some tips..
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01-28-2011 , 04:04 AM
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Originally Posted by tas devil
hey guys just started taking poker serious this year had some coaching before the start of the year and im up about $170 this year playing the 3.25 turbos about 320 games or so so i will be checking this thread out to learn some tips..
Glad to have you aboard

Keep the grind.
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01-28-2011 , 04:06 AM
Hey great thread, Im new to SNGs having been a 100nl full ring grinder for the past 18 months. Started playing a mix of 6 max turbos on FTP and Stars about 10 days ago. So far have 500 games on stars at the $13 level and a 3% ROI and 620 $12 games on FTP with an 11% ROI, dont think theres to much diffrence in the skill level iv just run good on FTP and not so good on Stars. Look forward to more, SUBSCRIBED!
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01-28-2011 , 02:35 PM
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I got $13.10 from it.
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01-28-2011 , 03:05 PM
idk what you guys think, but I LOVE bubbling 2 tournys in a row with KK v AT and AJ v AT


I'm really thinking about looking into playing some non turbos. I'm just running god awful; the turbos rely so much on luck.

edit: Yeah, I'm giving nonturbos a shot

Last edited by TheNixonator; 01-28-2011 at 03:29 PM.
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