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View Poll Results: What is your Win Rate in terms of BB per Housr
Less than 0 (losing)
5 6.33%
0-2.5
0 0%
2.5-5
6 7.59%
5-7.5
8 10.13%
7.5-10
15 18.99%
10+
27 34.18%
Not enough sample size/I don't know
18 22.78%

01-04-2024 , 11:04 AM
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Originally Posted by iraisetoomuch
Weighted average:

Bb/hour*times our player at each stake / total hours played
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Originally Posted by iraisetoomuch
(144*10.9 + 330*8.6 + 370*8.3)/(144 + 330 + 370)
Whatever that is
Mucho Thanks
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01-04-2024 , 02:26 PM
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Originally Posted by AAJTo




My version of a giraffe. My most recent 20% of my total hours played. Slightly over 12bb/hr total lifetime all at a 8+2 rake garbage casino.

What type of device is this?
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01-04-2024 , 02:45 PM
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Originally Posted by OvertlySexual
What type of device is this?
Its called “abacus” and you can find it in the app store.
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01-04-2024 , 03:30 PM
That's not an abacus, I know what an abacus is.

But this device seems to have a very high screen resolution with a PPI to match, while having weird light reflecting properties. I bet it's good on the eyes.
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01-04-2024 , 04:55 PM
Lol, was legit going to make an abacus joke myself but thought better.

Gbutgogogo!,imoG
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01-04-2024 , 05:40 PM
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Originally Posted by davomalvolio


(Nickelback voice) “Look at this graph.”
I see you also had a great Nov and Dec ... Happy new year.
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01-05-2024 , 10:11 AM
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Originally Posted by OvertlySexual
That's not an abacus, I know what an abacus is.

But this device seems to have a very high screen resolution with a PPI to match, while having weird light reflecting properties. I bet it's good on the eyes.
Oh you mean my calculator. TBF I write my sessions out that way not planning to ever show anyone until GG called me out. Im afraid if I use a giraffe app the government laserbeams via Elon satillites will know my winrate.
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01-10-2024 , 03:27 PM
2023, all nlh public games

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01-10-2024 , 04:07 PM
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Originally Posted by kvnd
2023, all nlh public games

Sick. NH, WP, GG, etc.
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01-11-2024 , 11:01 AM
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Originally Posted by kvnd
2023, all nlh public games

Hmmm....
1st few hours in January have me concerned that you're actually not a winning player.

Seriously/awesome results, very impressive!

Can you give us some short snippets of advice for great results like this? Thanks for your post.
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01-11-2024 , 01:08 PM
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Originally Posted by kvnd
2023, all nlh public games

Nice! Where do you play?
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01-11-2024 , 01:10 PM
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Originally Posted by crsseyed
Hmmm....
1st few hours in January have me concerned that you're actually not a winning player.

Seriously/awesome results, very impressive!

Can you give us some short snippets of advice for great results like this? Thanks for your post.
Just spend a **** load of hours in solver and strive to play theoretically optimally as possible, just mixing in light exploits like overfolding vs nits. Also play/study like an online player until you beat 100nl+. Live players are extremely bad and it's shooting fish in a barrel for any decent online player
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01-11-2024 , 01:27 PM
Inspiring and motivational thread here. Keep it up!
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01-13-2024 , 01:42 PM
Last night I went home dejected that I'm playing in a 1/2 game I cannot beat. My cardroom raised their rake to 10 percent up to 60 + up to 3 additional for promotions. The promotions are hard to win because they run at inconvenient times or fill up the room, and there are no seats, or pay out 100,000 just once a year. Add to that a stingy $1 tip to the dealers who work only for tips. Now, when you win a pot with 60, you feel like you paid for a large bowl of soup but got a small one that retails for only 50. I still make plenty of errors. There is lots of room to improve my game. With a degen or whale on the table, I feel like a pro. But when average loose-passives populate the table, and stacks go below 200, it feels like the game is unbeatable. The margin for error just gets too thin, and the variance of multiway pots with all the loose passives is brutal.

For decades, I was lucky to play in games run for tips in warehouses in bad neighborhoods. I was prepared these games would get robbed eventually. Then the casino opened up and killed all the home games. I know the rake is the price you pay for civilized poker in public. My family appreciates now I won't get shot. But if you are priced out of poker, how civilized is the world, really?

Please feel free to write: this question has been covered hundreds of times in the forum.
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01-15-2024 , 07:04 AM
Very smart and reasonably poker smart but somewhat undisciplined young LAG rec who plays better than most of the local regs did a bet with his non poker buddy whether he could win 100k+ in my player pool in 1 month.

I think the bet motivated him to play his best and to put a lot of volume at the best prime time hours. He is young and single with a demanding job, but he had more time off during the holidays when he started the bet in late December. I definitely suspect that he cut down on the spewy nonsense that he would sometimes do when he would normally get bored because he really wanted to win this bet.

He hit his target in less than 3 weeks and won the bet.
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01-15-2024 , 12:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Smoola1981
Very smart and reasonably poker smart but somewhat undisciplined young LAG rec who plays better than most of the local regs did a bet with his non poker buddy whether he could win 100k+ in my player pool in 1 month.

I think the bet motivated him to play his best and to put a lot of volume at the best prime time hours. He is young and single with a demanding job, but he had more time off during the holidays when he started the bet in late December. I definitely suspect that he cut down on the spewy nonsense that he would sometimes do when he would normally get bored because he really wanted to win this bet.

He hit his target in less than 3 weeks and won the bet.
3 weeks, 100k? What stake was this
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01-15-2024 , 12:20 PM
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Originally Posted by adonson
Last night I went home dejected that I'm playing in a 1/2 game I cannot beat. My cardroom raised their rake to 10 percent up to 60 + up to 3 additional for promotions. The promotions are hard to win because they run at inconvenient times or fill up the room, and there are no seats, or pay out 100,000 just once a year. Add to that a stingy $1 tip to the dealers who work only for tips. Now, when you win a pot with 60, you feel like you paid for a large bowl of soup but got a small one that retails for only 50. I still make plenty of errors. There is lots of room to improve my game. With a degen or whale on the table, I feel like a pro. But when average loose-passives populate the table, and stacks go below 200, it feels like the game is unbeatable. The margin for error just gets too thin, and the variance of multiway pots with all the loose passives is brutal.

For decades, I was lucky to play in games run for tips in warehouses in bad neighborhoods. I was prepared these games would get robbed eventually. Then the casino opened up and killed all the home games. I know the rake is the price you pay for civilized poker in public. My family appreciates now I won't get shot. But if you are priced out of poker, how civilized is the world, really?

Please feel free to write: this question has been covered hundreds of times in the forum.
Yeah, $6 + $3 + $1 is fairly brutal for a 1/2 NL game. With shortish stacks (i.e. < $200) and high rake, my guess is a decent strategy to have a shot is outnitting your opponents by playing *extremely* nitty (which is what I do in my $9 + $2 + $1 1/3 NL game).

Ggoodluck!G
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01-15-2024 , 12:22 PM
The stakes were a combination of:

5/5/10 bounty ($25 bonus from every player to someone who wins 2+ pots in a row) with mandatory $25 single board NLHE bomb pots. Sometimes mandatory straddle to $20.

5/10/20 double bounty ($50 bonus from every player to someone who wins 2+ pots in a row) with mandatory $50 single board NLHE bomb pots. Sometimes mandatory straddle to $40.

It is hard to convert these structures to “vanilla” NLHE structures, but I think say that the stakes were a mix of 10/20 NLHE to 20/40 NLHE essentially.
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01-15-2024 , 02:42 PM
Where the hell can you play those stakes in a public poker room? I thought the 10-20+ player pool was fleeing to private games.
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01-15-2024 , 02:45 PM
Sounds like Gardens. If it's one of the young kids I'm thinking of he runs pretty damn pure too. My last couple of LA trips the same 2 kids have gotten it in bad against me multiple times and I have yet to get any money back from those pots.
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01-15-2024 , 03:25 PM
At 20-40 if he played 12 hours/ day for 21 straight days, its about 10bb/hour, its doable but still very impressive.
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01-15-2024 , 07:44 PM
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Originally Posted by gobbledygeek
outnitting opponents… in my $9 + $2 + $1 1/3 NL game).
Thanks for the advice. I always read your posts, so maybe one day I’ll have the skill to shift gears into GGnit. Sorry about that rake (although misery loves company).
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01-16-2024 , 03:07 AM
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Originally Posted by adonson
Last night I went home dejected that I'm playing in a 1/2 game I cannot beat. My cardroom raised their rake to 10 percent up to 60 + up to 3 additional for promotions. The promotions are hard to win because they run at inconvenient times or fill up the room, and there are no seats, or pay out 100,000 just once a year. Add to that a stingy $1 tip to the dealers who work only for tips. Now, when you win a pot with 60, you feel like you paid for a large bowl of soup but got a small one that retails for only 50. I still make plenty of errors. There is lots of room to improve my game. With a degen or whale on the table, I feel like a pro. But when average loose-passives populate the table, and stacks go below 200, it feels like the game is unbeatable. The margin for error just gets too thin, and the variance of multiway pots with all the loose passives is brutal.

For decades, I was lucky to play in games run for tips in warehouses in bad neighborhoods. I was prepared these games would get robbed eventually. Then the casino opened up and killed all the home games. I know the rake is the price you pay for civilized poker in public. My family appreciates now I won't get shot. But if you are priced out of poker, how civilized is the world, really?

Please feel free to write: this question has been covered hundreds of times in the forum.
What's your bankroll?

If it's >$10k you should be taking shots at the $5 level ASAP
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01-16-2024 , 07:51 AM
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Originally Posted by quitebrazen
What's your bankroll?

If it's >$10k you should be taking shots at the $5 level ASAP
Others have told me that too. Bankroll was up to $3.5K, now down to 2.7. I have about $500 a month cash flow for recreation. To play 2/5, I would want to be rolled closer to 20K. I could take some cash out of my IRA now, paying the penalty. Or wait nine years until I retire. The kid will be done with college, house almost paid off, a large state pension in addition to savings, endless time to play poker.

My low estimate is that my cardroom took from the pots I won about 10K. I'm trying to get an unraked home game started to build up my bankroll.
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01-17-2024 , 10:56 PM
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Originally Posted by davomalvolio

I’ve just made the decision to quit my (stressful!) full-time job and replace it with a (stress-free!) part-time job, but to supplement the income with poker winnings. I plan on playing about 15 hours a week.

I want to get to a spot where I literally never have to worry about my cash “bankroll,” and every Friday I'll just put that week’s poker winnings into my family’s joint checking account. (Or, on weeks when I lose, the next week’s winnings will go to first replenish the cash bankroll and then the rest to checking.)

My two questions are:

Is this how most people do it? And,

If so, what should my starting cash bankroll be? I currently have $3000 in cash—my main concern is I never want to have to *withdraw* money from our joint account ever again.

Thanks.
So an UPDATE: while I’m up a bit over $13,000 since I started this in July, the inevitable DOWNSWING has struck, and after yet another two-bullet/$600 losing session yesterday, I am down to just $300 left in my sock drawer.

I don’t know what to do! I wanted to avoid ever having to withdraw money from our checking account, and now that’s exactly what’s happened!

(Complicating all this is that I’ve just had a Round 2 interview for a full-time job, which, if I get it, would allow me to quit poker…So, I don’t know, I might only be needing to play for another couple weeks, maybe I just pray this final $300 bullet can carry me through? But I’m not stupid, I know there’s no way in hell I can play well knowing if I lose I can never play again…that’s how I played as a Degen in my 20s, and I SUCKED!)

So anyway, I don’t know what to do. Why couldn’t I have just tripled up yesterday???
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