Received vax (Pfizer) on 1/19 and 2/9 in Coconut Creek, FL with my wife. Both of us had practically no side effects. Only a slight soreness at the injection site (deltoid) for about 24 hours til it disappeared, That was it......nothing else.... it was exactly the same after the first shot.

Played at the Isle in Pompano yesterday for the first time in a year. 8 handed...mandatory masks, cloroxed each seat any time a seat change, temp checks and no plexiglass. +330 at 1-2 (yippie!). Wore an N-100 mask and felt pretty good about life.....

FYI I just heard Dr Fauci on TV saying while one dose of the mRNA vaccines gives reasonable protection it isn't as durable as getting two doses. He gave a stat saying after two doses you get a 10X number of neutralizing antibodies as only one shot. That's a pretty strong argument to be sure to get the second vaccine,

South African strain is vaccine-resistant.

And has arrived in the Republic of Cuomo.

variance: more contagious, probably not more lethal, immune to immunity. The variant may be escaping some or all of the antibodies people developed against a natural infection. Looking at blood from 44 South Africans who recovered from COVID-19, more than 90% showed reduced immunity to the new variant, and almost half had no protection at all against it, according to a study published recently though not yet peer-reviewed. new strain of vaccine under development.

I just thought I'd mention this because I did to one of my far left friends on Facebook that wants the whole world shut down - if you're looking for a good guy on the subject that's not far left or right, Nate Silver has been absolutely killing it on Twitter with respect to covid. Personally I think he's too far to the left because he seems to favor some capacity restrictions and what not, but from an overall data side and predictions wise I'm not sure you can get anyone any better.

I know the pessimists don't want to hear this, but a doctor at John Hopkins predicted this will all be over by April. This seems optimistic, but regardless I'm glad to see some optimism. https://www.fox5ny.com/video/904000

Just because you don't like science's answers doesn't mean that its biased to one political side or another.

Agreed that Nate is generally very reliable on stats stuff. Haven't been following lately, but he was one of my main sources when I was trying to get a handle on all this.

I hope JH guy is right, but what I read of his analysis doesn't seem very rigorous. More like "it could be over by April."

What are you talking about? Science doesn't have emotions. It'd be one thing if you said your first part towards fights to not have evolution taught in school and I'd agree. However, science doesn't tell you how to do things.

I’ll lay odds to anyone who thinks this will be over in 60 days (April 30).

Vaccines in arms.


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Science is supposed to tell you what and how. Once they start saying should it becomes policy.

@Prairie, there's "over" and then there's yawn, 20 cases in the entire statevince.

But scientists do have emotions and biases. The reason we are told that we don't need N95 masks is there is a shortage. They are safer than other masks. Scientists don't want the general public sucking them all up. Same thing with the vaccinations. Pfizer's and Moderna's vaccines are better than J&J's. The public is being to told to take whatever because the government wants everyone getting a shot as quickly as possible and doesn't want to waste all the money they spent supporting J&J.

Guarantee that if Dr. Fauci's family was given a choice of which vaccine to take, he wouldn't tell them to take the J&J shot over Pfizer or Moderna.

Texas and Mississippi. Odd choice to do this now. Would be interested in the scientific argument to do so now. Especially Texas, just getting out of one cluster, and y'all want (potentially) another right away?

Very bold move, but I support it. The world has to go back to normal at some point, and this is proving to be the beginning of it.

Without a scientific basis, it’s idiotic and reckless.

Less than 7% of Texans have been vaccinated. They just got their electricity back. Now they governor is needlessly doing this with less than 10% of people immunized.

There will be a time to go back to normal. Tomorrow is not that day.


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Everyone should get vaccinated, I agree. However, I think this decision was based mainly on the factors of liberty, mental health, and economic performance. You can't neglect these things.

I trust the judgement of the Texas governor. I mean his foresight and handling of the power situation was second to none imo. This next decision should bear similar fruit.

Bullshit. There was zero urgency to do this today. Zero.

It’s a political choice.

But given Governor Abbott’s recent track record with bad decisions, this fits the brand.


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Glad this pandemic is finally over. Next stop, mask burning parties!

the pandemic has been over here for months...a case or two sometimes sneaks through our borders and erupts for a few weeks but the system is very good at isolating infected people and areas and stamping it out (some people would say they do this by infringing on their FREEDUM, but...it's worked very well)

we still have compulsory masks on planes, all forms of public transport etc and limits on guests in indoor venues, but other than that, it's relatively normal here on day to day living.

I do worry though that gubmint types here are getting so conservative and risk averse that even when we've all been vaccinated (or the 80% ish of people who currently say they'll get the jabs) they're going to retain all our quarantine controls and make it almost impossible to arrive/return to Australia without serving 14 days in supervised isolation.

which would be fatal for airlines, tourism and a few related industries here, plus would save me the $20k+ that I have targeted at the 2022 ME and a few other side events

I'm sure the Texas decision is partially political, but my guess is that it's largely related to business. Right now Texas is experiencing a covid fueled real estate boom with tons of people and businesses relocating here and I suspect they are trying to build upon that with a larger economic boom.

It will be interesting to see how it all turns out.

So for the last year people have been locked inside, told not to socialize in person, told not to act like human beings, businesses have been shut down and put at capacity restrictions, but none of this matters because it was a political game to you


I'm saving mine as a souvenir.

67o

we have abundant evidence from dozens of countries around the world who pulled off a lockdown successfully and then engaged in contact tracing to wipe out any new infections before they spread

you keep saying people have been locked inside, that is simply not what happened, we may call it a lockdown, but it's not, the US never engaged in a lockdown, had they down that then it'd be like New Zealand or places like Cambodia where you can live like normal and go about your day

what you fail to understand is that had we actually did a lockdown and stayed indoors for a month or two then we'd have beaten this already and would have normal lives

instead we kept things operating as usual and encouraged people to stay home, people have still been going out and working/socializing etc

it's like a condom - it only works if done entirely, if you cut off a square of latex and glue it to the shaft of your wiener then you can't claim you used a condom and that condoms don't work

i understand your point entirely, but your deeply wrong about this and we have numerous countries who have done it correctly as shining examples of exactly how wrong you are

ssshh. don't tap the tank

Interesting word grouping.

But if you want to articulate a scientific argument where there isn't one; there is not good evidence that mask mandates slow the spread of covid therefore they can be lifted.

Interesting perspective considering we're talking Texas.

You mean besides the fact that flu infections are down tremendously this year. And it isn't because we aren't testing for it. If you come in for a covid test and have symptoms, you get the flu test too.

At what point did I say doing this is going to drop cases? Sure, we'll reach herd immunity faster, but I never said less people will get covid - that doesn't make any sense.

This has been so rough on so many people, and I applaud these two states for saying enough is enough and putting mental health above all else.

I also saw Nate Silver predicting that there's now going to be a race amongst states to follow the lead and go completely back to normal. At some points I was extremely worried that things would never be the same, now I'm optimistic that there will be many places I can vacation to, to see what the world was like in February 2020 . Unfortunately Michigan will almost certainly be one of the last to go back to normal.

you're missing the point entirely

there's absolutely zero ground to stand on arguing otherwise, multiple countries from western democracies to monkey infested jungle countries have resoundingly shown us the pathway to return to normalcy

i agree these half measures aren't very effective, but you're arguing for thunderdome and that's never the right side of an argument to be upon

Stop acting like the police have padlocked your front door for the last year. People have had all the mobility they needed. They just had to endure the inconvenience (not ****ing oppression) of a mask.

Told not to act like human beings? GTFOH with that garbage.

Governor Abbott is the one playing politics. He's the guy up for re-election in 22 months. He's the one who wanted to be out there first so he can lay claim to that distinction just in case he ever wants to chase a bigger prize. Wasn't yesterday Texas Independence Day? Must be just a coincidence.

And you still can't justify (because Abbott can't either) why today has to be the day to crack it all open, with only 7% immunization, and 11 of the top 20 counties in America for covid counts are in Texas.