Brazil says ‘hi’ too

I feel confident in saying the porous lockdowns had an insubstantial effect on the curve. OTOH the hourly calls for safer behavior did move a lot of people into a lower risk bracket.

mmmm more "there is a difference between protesting for a haircut and protesting because the government is killing unarmed people in the street with no consequences"

This isn't biased to completely fit your narrative or anything...

FWIW I protested government overreach, and the police, so I don't have a "side" to team up with.

And once again, this thread is drifting too far into politics. Let's rein it in, folks.

Pandamndeck roof panels increased from 4 to 11 over the weekend, scary stuff. One to go but some creative framing will be required before I can get that last one up.

Was quite productive with the pandamndeck thanks to the pandemic. But now life is starting to look a lot more normal up here. Both wife and I are returning to our normal golf schedule. Even got in my first hockey game on Friday, just a scrimmage within the team with some serious lol social distancing rules, but still fun. Hit the pubs a couple times with the guys after golf/hockey. Have a backyard BBQ with family planned for this weekend. Will be attempting to book a campsite or two for later in the summer. So other than zero poker, pretty much back to normal for me, and didn't really find the pandemic that troublesome life-wise (other than the 6 figure hit I took on my savings but I'm confident that'll bounce back).

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https://mgoblog.com/mgoboard/who-say...read-very-rare - huge if true

https://www.mlive.com/public-interes...outputType=amp - huge win for liberty

And lastly day one of dine in at 50% capacity, and I'm get to see one restaurant that's not doing 100% capacity. I love seeing businesses and the courts stick it to the overreachers.

not to a virus

😂😂😂😂😂😂 (Laughing emojis)

That you could call that a "win for liberty" [the court just told the government to file under a different law if they wanted that big a fine] speaks to how rarely courts rule against their employer.

But the link under it, I see the Detroit casinos plan to reopen with no poker and no smoking. I mean, that's like having a car show with no models.

Or a strip club with no BJ's

It's whatever that they won't have poker, I have an open invite to the hottest home games in Michigan

"Protesting for a haircut" is a massive strawman, but it doesn't matter. People have a right to protest peacefully regardless of whether or not you agree with their message, and regardless of whether or not there's a current pandemic.

It's not a competition to see who is more righteous. IMO both groups of protesters should be on the same team.

✋✋✋ I protested both and am on the same side. Be like me.

Not sure. We've entered a slippery slope where that may no longer be the case.

Not remotely close to the truth. The WHO had to walk back this linked statement within 24hrs.

Scarier though is the statement from Harvard Med that came out a few days ago. "Emerging research suggests that people may actually be most likely to spread the virus to others during the 48 hours before they start to experience symptoms"

Thought about doing an AMA here since I am married to a retired physician who before going to med school, completed a microbiology undergrad degree with a virology minor...then went on to earn a PhD in immunology from Duke. She actually did a rotation in Faucci's lab during med school. edit: (She's not just another doctor with another opinion imo. She was top of class at Miami University including Micro student of the year; Duke gave her a full ride to grad school (not too many get that); she was either #1 or #2 in med school and also did her internship and residency at Duke.)

She's a bit more knowledgeable on this COVID thingy than most; retired, she's been spending a ton of her time since February researching the research (and advising local officials).

The problem with an AMA on this subject... is that people have already convinced themselves that they have found THE answer for themselves and how to manage their life. (and have found "data" that backs up their positions...usually older data or like the new WHO announcement that was walked back rapidly). As an example, a non-mask wearer will not be convinced to wear a mask in the future by anything I state here (actually what my wife's opinion is)....often citing a WHO article from late February.

Therefore I will only say that my wife and I (and our grown out-of-the-house children) will be self-quarantined for an indefinite period of time. When venturing out, we will always wear a mask w/filter component and maintain MORE than the recommended social spacing. But...and this is THE cravat as far as I am concerned... we are extremely lucky in that we are able to financial exist within our cocoon and have the luxury of not being forced to "go out" into the world to earn money for essentials.

Finally, good luck to you all. Scary times indeed.

KS,

I'm sure would be most valuable, coming from someone who would be clearly independent in a situation like this.

Having had it, and now dealing with a major complication from it, I'd be interested in her thoughts on how life can be for me personally outside of my home during my "Phase 2" recovery.

Really sad for you guys that Covid is still so widespread there.

No new locally transmitted cases in my state for 15 days. We still add a few cases to our number both days but only from people returning on planes from overseas and they are all put into quarantine for at least 14 days and more if they test positive

Lots of stuff opening up here and we have genuine prospect of getting back to something close to normal within a month (with the exception of stringent international border restrictions), which is great news for my parents who are in high risk groups

I did some quick math on our boy Prairie (and obviously GL/gogogo to him). He can correct me if I'm wrong, but he just happens to be an *incredibly* unlucky 0.06% of his neck of the woods that happen to come down with it (not to mention the unfortunate problems he ran into for a guy his age). Real needle in a haystack, imo.

And in my neck of the woods, I work just 2 blocks from the long term care facility that is leading the way in our deaths out here (and walk by it every single day on my daily walk). So long as you're not one of the 87 year olds on the inside with a myriad of health issues, it really isn't that bad. Although admittedly overall our side of the country has done *far* better than back east (which for some reason has done much worse).

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I will respond in depth via PM.

Short answer and not knowing the major complication (sorry, haven't been paying attention), the data isn't there yet as to immunity for those already infected. Won't have good enough numbers for that particular question for at least another year.

In terms of a potential return in colder weather, what are the doctors saying?

Well...it doesn’t get very cold here - we’re going through a ‘cold snap’ in Sydney right now and it’s a top of 17/63f tomorrow.

And then I think there’s a decent chance that the virus will get eliminated from the entire country, so I’m not sure that cold weather will have much impact on it, so long as the 14 day supervised quarantine period for all international arrivals stays in effect.

Obviously the border ‘closure’ isn’t realistic indefinitely, so the plan will need to evolve if a quick and effective fragment or a vaccine doesn’t materialise

shrinkage is a medical fact

*Materialize

*Marmite

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Does anyone have a link to the Republic of CHAZ Covid19 testing policy and daily results?