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View Poll Results: Bring back 100nl?
Yes, bring back 100nl, they are amazing entertainment
17 16.67%
No, 100nl posters are dumb and bad at pokers
41 40.20%
SobraoluckBoX is a huge fish and I love having him at my tables
18 17.65%
The mods are awful and can never do anything right
15 14.71%
slammedfire is the greatest person alive
11 10.78%

08-05-2008 , 04:46 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Kelisitaan
Yes, this forum is just buzzing with strat...lol

And no, it's called being smart...maybe if you were good at poker and could think for yourself, then you wouldn't be posting strat either, but of course since you're not good or smart that's not really an option. Keep thinking that not wanting to post strategy in a public forum for everyone and their mom to see is being "selfish" and "money-craving"...lol...why would I ever want to educate the fish when it provides absolutely 0 benefit to me

aren't you essentially helping everyone else though by discouraging them to post their own strategy.
In the war of information it seems to me that having an understanding of why you don't want to give away strat advice is among the types of things you would also want to keep to yourself. You are helping your opponents not give away too much in here. Perhaps you believe you can figure them out at the tables just as well anyway whereas those reading YOUR posts would get way more benefit reading your logic than trying to figure it out through observation.
08-05-2008 , 06:56 AM
Bob, I think it's nice that you're diplomatically trying to talk the dude around with logic and common sense. You're good that way. But, I think it's misguided to treat with him like that.

The truth is, Kelisitaan is a foaming mouthed troll who's out to tread on any serious discussion and has more or less singlehandedly killed this forum. The more he trolls and is seen to get away with it, and the more the mods pander to him and try to work around him instead of kicking his ass out of town, the more others just don't want to get involved in any discussion either because they want to copy him or because it's just too much effort wading through his trollery.

It's no use appeasing him and hoping he'll drop some gem of a poker secret if his ego is stroked correctly, guy makes a living as a professional bully ffs.

Keli, you are Hitler incarnate.
08-05-2008 , 07:20 AM
haha

i really doubt it is keli's fault that this forum has little strat. it is mainly because there are not a lot of high stakes full ring regulars. most of the good ones seem to go play 6m and hu.

as far as keli goes, i think his levels are funny. most of the regular posters here are not really looking for strat anymore, we are trying to be part of a community, talk with fellow players. it is somewhat like talking at a water cooler at a real job.
08-05-2008 , 08:04 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by BT2
haha

i really doubt it is keli's fault that this forum has little strat. it is mainly because there are not a lot of high stakes full ring regulars. most of the good ones seem to go play 6m and hu.

as far as keli goes, i think his levels are funny. most of the regular posters here are not really looking for strat anymore, we are trying to be part of a community, talk with fellow players. it is somewhat like talking at a water cooler at a real job.
That's all very well, and I'm not saying that the current setup is ideal. The FR forum generally would probably do better if this were the FR community channel. But it isn't at the moment. My point is that the forum generally, and strat threads especially, are the wrong place for water cooler talk. This needs to happen at the water cooler, not in the library, not in study hall, not at someone's desk where the guy next door is trying to work. As for the current regs, well it happens all the time that people outgrow the forum. The usual progression is that they move to BBB4l, EDF, whatever community forum does it for them, or obviously the chat thread here. THat way, they make room for the next generation of players who aren't quite done with taking strat.

But virtually every single strat thread since the last split has been trolled by one or other of the chuckle brothers. That's hardly an encouragement for anyone thinking about posting here and I dread the day where I have to share a forum with them again.

By the way, gj Soah for making things a little clearer with your sticky.
08-05-2008 , 09:09 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Specialwon
Bob, I think it's nice that you're diplomatically trying to talk the dude around with logic and common sense. You're good that way. But, I think it's misguided to treat with him like that.

The truth is, Kelisitaan is a foaming mouthed troll who's out to tread on any serious discussion and has more or less singlehandedly killed this forum. The more he trolls and is seen to get away with it, and the more the mods pander to him and try to work around him instead of kicking his ass out of town, the more others just don't want to get involved in any discussion either because they want to copy him or because it's just too much effort wading through his trollery.

It's no use appeasing him and hoping he'll drop some gem of a poker secret if his ego is stroked correctly, guy makes a living as a professional bully ffs.

Keli, you are Hitler incarnate.
sick burn

Last edited by miaowmiaowchowface; 08-05-2008 at 09:10 AM. Reason: actually tbh i think that was pretty over the top regardless
08-05-2008 , 09:55 AM
SpecialOlympics, you seem to have a lot of issues with bullies, were u bullied all ur life? You also seem to have a lot issues with fat people, are u fat or anorexic?

I can assure you that neither Keli or myself have never been bullied or been a bully and are not fat nor are we anorexic. I come on here like BT said to talk to people who play my stakes and have some fun inbetween sessions during the days when my real friends work jobs.

Anyway here is a link that should help you out, and a community that will fully embrace you as one of their own and you won't ever be bullied or called fat (or anorexic) again. Infact you probably already are in it, but just to make sure here it is http://www.specialolympics.org/mailman/index.html

Regards,

EPiPeN11
08-05-2008 , 09:56 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by EPiPeN11
SpecialOlympics, you seem to have a lot of issues with bullies, were u bullied all ur life? You also seem to have a lot issues with fat people, are u fat or anorexic?

I can assure you that neither Keli or myselfi have never been bullied or been a bully, am not fat nor anorexic. I come on here like BT said to talk to people who play my stakes and have some fun inbetween sessions during the days when my real friends work jobs.

Anyway here is a link that should help you out, and a community that will fully embrace you as one of their own and you won't ever be bullied or called fat (or anorexic) again. Infact you probably already are in it, but just to make sure here it is http://www.specialolympics.org/mailman/index.html

Regards,

EPiPeN11
Hark. I hear a dog bark
08-05-2008 , 01:31 PM
Here is my question...Berge said that the reason that 200nl was not put here was because they desire more strat posts and less offtopic posts, and that since the needs of 400nl players was no strat and just offtopic posts. If this is truly the case, how come every time I go to make an offtopic post it gets moved and I get an "infraction". Well guess what, soah you are a truly awful mod...worse than all the other mods combined. As I told you in PM, if the lack of activity doesn't kill this forum, your overmodding and deleting of posts most certainly will. Grats on being awful
08-05-2008 , 01:34 PM
thread sucks
08-05-2008 , 01:41 PM
Plz do two forums and then a FR community forum.
08-05-2008 , 02:11 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Kelisitaan
Here is my question...Berge said that the reason that 200nl was not put here was because they desire more strat posts and less offtopic posts, and that since the needs of 400nl players was no strat and just offtopic posts. If this is truly the case, how come every time I go to make an offtopic post it gets moved and I get an "infraction". Well guess what, soah you are a truly awful mod...worse than all the other mods combined. As I told you in PM, if the lack of activity doesn't kill this forum, your overmodding and deleting of posts most certainly will. Grats on being awful
you should start smoking weed again imo. you used to be sooo much more chill.
08-05-2008 , 02:19 PM
Ban Keli.
08-05-2008 , 02:36 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by oldschool
you should start smoking weed again imo. you used to be sooo much more chill.
I am extremely chill...these forums, however, are 100% not chill, and they are dead, so I've pretty much decided more or less to stop posting here, peace out
08-05-2008 , 02:36 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Falc
Ban Keli.
QQ I am a 100nl player who wants to leech strategy because I'm awful at poker QQ
08-05-2008 , 03:01 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Kelisitaan
I am extremely chill...these forums, however, are 100% not chill, and they are dead, so I've pretty much decided more or less to stop posting here, peace out
see you in a couple weeks =)
08-05-2008 , 04:03 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Kelisitaan
QQ I am a 100nl player who wants to leech strategy because I'm awful at poker QQ
QQ.
08-05-2008 , 10:22 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Kelisitaan
Here is my question...Berge said that the reason that 200nl was not put here was because they desire more strat posts and less offtopic posts, and that since the needs of 400nl players was no strat and just offtopic posts. If this is truly the case, how come every time I go to make an offtopic post it gets moved and I get an "infraction". Well guess what, soah you are a truly awful mod...worse than all the other mods combined. As I told you in PM, if the lack of activity doesn't kill this forum, your overmodding and deleting of posts most certainly will. Grats on being awful
This is a very valid point, would like the Mods to explain this
08-05-2008 , 11:09 PM
No one has said that it is acceptable to post anything they want to as a new thread. He chose to do so while acknowledging when he did it that it was going to get locked or moved. He has been told numerous times that there are other forums on 2p2 where his behavior would be welcomed. The strat forums are not among them. He was first asked to change his posting, then warned, and now he is getting infracted and tempbanned. There have been numerous complaints from various members about his behavior, and to a lesser extent yours and a couple others. The fact that some of you do not want to post any strat does not mean you can distrupt the forum for those that do.
08-05-2008 , 11:55 PM
The reason why 200nl was moved away was given as because they wanted to focus more on strat and less on off topic stuff. Yet this forum, which is supposed to be more into off topic stuff, doesn't even allow off topic threads...

The thing is the other forums aren't filled with people who I play with poker with and want to talk to in the first place. I like talking to most of the people on here, not the people in BBV etc.

And since you mods seem to have such hate towards funny off topic threads just shows that there really needs to be a seperate off topic full ring forum where we can start these threads (and i'm sure i'm not the only person who wants this) especially since you won't let us post off topic threads here.
08-06-2008 , 02:19 AM
Counting this one, I see 9 low content threads available in this forum currently.
08-06-2008 , 09:05 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Specialwon
Bob, I think it's nice that you're diplomatically trying to talk the dude around with logic and common sense. You're good that way. But, I think it's misguided to treat with him like that.

The truth is, Kelisitaan is a foaming mouthed troll who's out to tread on any serious discussion and has more or less singlehandedly killed this forum. The more he trolls and is seen to get away with it, and the more the mods pander to him and try to work around him instead of kicking his ass out of town, the more others just don't want to get involved in any discussion either because they want to copy him or because it's just too much effort wading through his trollery.

It's no use appeasing him and hoping he'll drop some gem of a poker secret if his ego is stroked correctly, guy makes a living as a professional bully ffs.

Keli, you are Hitler incarnate.
How is this not a ban?

The entire post was nothing but flames but the last sentence is really over the top.
08-06-2008 , 09:16 AM
Specialwon has a reputation of starting **** and being worse than useless here. I remember a few times wheres he really pissed alot of us off( i dont think he plays or wins at midstakes either fwiw)
08-06-2008 , 10:22 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by EPiPeN11
SpecialOlympics, you seem to have a lot of issues with bullies, were u bullied all ur life? You also seem to have a lot issues with fat people, are u fat or anorexic?

I can assure you that neither Keli or myself have never been bullied or been a bully and are not fat nor are we anorexic. I come on here like BT said to talk to people who play my stakes and have some fun inbetween sessions during the days when my real friends work jobs.

Anyway here is a link that should help you out, and a community that will fully embrace you as one of their own and you won't ever be bullied or called fat (or anorexic) again. Infact you probably already are in it, but just to make sure here it is http://www.specialolympics.org/mailman/index.html

Regards,

EPiPeN11


Quote:
Originally Posted by oldschool
Specialwon has a reputation of starting **** and being worse than useless here. I remember a few times wheres he really pissed alot of us off( i dont think he plays or wins at midstakes either fwiw)
What are these if not personal attacks?
08-06-2008 , 11:02 AM
pretty sure kel said he was teh jew somewhere along the line too, makes it all the nicer

      
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