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09-23-2012 , 08:58 PM
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Originally Posted by shpanko
Not to be a nit but is that really what flopping the joint means? I was pretty sure it meant flopping the nut straight
yeah this... i think it's a common mistake though
09-23-2012 , 09:48 PM
Or simply da nuts.
09-23-2012 , 10:25 PM
Wow I am going to win at least 2 of 3 in FF this week
09-23-2012 , 10:29 PM
how much softer does the WSOPC coming to town make the cash games?

also miami play scramble
09-23-2012 , 11:49 PM
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Originally Posted by mpethybridge
This was my night, too, except that I ended down $165, slightly less than I lost on this hand:

Uber tight table, $7 and $8 raises are taking the blinds almost half the time, usually getting 1 or 2 callers. Folds to me in MP1, I raise to $8 with Jd9d, CO, BTN, SB and BB all call

Flop is Ac9c9s, checks to me, I bet $30 at the $36 pot, button calls, all others fold. Turn is the Ts, I bet $70, button raises me all in for another $80 ish, I call and he flopped the joint with As9h.

The rest of the night was a bunch of break even bull ****, win $50 or $60, then lost it back $8 or $10 at a time. Blech. A thoroughly unpleasant session.
Bet size smaller. When you make it so big you are folding out hands you beat and stopping the curiosity calls with a10/a7. Live players tend to put people on a range of ako and aks but they will pay anyway if they think they won't have to get stacks in to see they are beat
09-23-2012 , 11:58 PM
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Originally Posted by madlondoner
Bet size smaller. When you make it so big you are folding out hands you beat and stopping the curiosity calls with a10/a7. Live players tend to put people on a range of ako and aks but they will pay anyway if they think they won't have to get stacks in to see they are beat
Sounds kind of result-oriented.

Common theme in LLSNL is that we're not value betting big enough, except when we lose, then it's we're betting too big.

Live players aren't folding Ax in that spot whether it's $70 or $55, unless you're talking about something ridiculous like $30.
09-24-2012 , 12:01 AM
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Originally Posted by iLikeCaliDonks
Ace you are wrong given that hero has aq of diamonds. Your analysis Is wishful thinking.
I misread the action... Does not mean he doesn't have diamonds there. Players do weird things. These little min raises mean a plethora of thing IP and OOP. Given how the action went I am pretty sure I shove here all day.
09-24-2012 , 12:04 AM
A lot of live players will be passing ax there with scary bet sizing. Most live players are bad but not completely clueless. He said it was a nitty table too, not a bunch of stations. Obv we are still doing our money here but we are giving ourselves more opportunity to get paid off by worse
09-24-2012 , 12:05 AM
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Originally Posted by IhaveBTN
how much softer does the WSOPC coming to town make the cash games?

also miami play scramble
Ya my bad. Playing pokers tonight. I always play scramble a lot during work week and forget on weekends.
09-24-2012 , 03:06 AM
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Originally Posted by madlondoner
A lot of live players will be passing ax there with scary bet sizing. Most live players are bad but not completely clueless. He said it was a nitty table too, not a bunch of stations. Obv we are still doing our money here but we are giving ourselves more opportunity to get paid off by worse
Agreed. "Always bet big" is a huge misnomer. Bet HUGE if they aren't going to believe you, but in some spots they'll put you on a big hand especially if they don't have a big one and you're credible to have one.

People miss value not over betting but also miss value not betting smaller for value.
09-24-2012 , 03:33 AM
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Originally Posted by IhaveBTN
completing J7o in a multiway limp pot from the SB definitely is not poker
well done
09-24-2012 , 03:36 AM
btw that's def untrue. There are spots where I'd complete weaker hands.
09-24-2012 , 05:31 AM
I usually complete j7 there cause live poker is boring and I like to see flops lol. Stuck up in bed at the moment. Only thing I ate was the Chinese snacks the vic gave out, though maybe the little sleep and not enough food finally caught up with me.
09-24-2012 , 05:41 AM
Did you get to day2? omg why u no say hi. Weirdest **** happened to me that day.
09-24-2012 , 06:53 AM
On day one my phone ran out of battery. On day 2 I got there 25min late then busted a10 vs 55 on 1057 flop sb vs bb and was too irritated from busting before money again and ill.

Think I played you anyway. Think you 5bet jammed into me on cash early one morning.
09-24-2012 , 06:58 AM
Huh, what did I have? Was it 2/5? I probably had it. I'm usually a nit.

I use a gold/silver coin as protector, if that helps.
09-24-2012 , 06:59 AM
OH wait. Did you 4bet and tank fold? Was my friend on the table and we discussed a hand where I bet small on river and he said he was jamming if I checked?
09-24-2012 , 07:19 AM
Yeah I opened utg, a couple of people called and presumably you 3bet otb. I didn't give u a lot of credit as decent squeeze spot so I turned my hand into a bluff and 4bet. It was a really good game; Portuguese Toni was in it.
09-24-2012 , 07:58 AM
Oh I see. We've played before didn't we, you're the one who made fun of people who folds trash and get upset when they "would've flopped trips" and I said I met someone who did that, except he was upset because they "would've flopped a straight draw". That you?

Yeah I was "light" that hand in the sense that I only had AK. I don't stack off AK very often but I knew you (I think) was a reg and could be playing back enough, or have worse than KK AA anyway.
09-24-2012 , 08:30 AM
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Originally Posted by shpanko
Not to be a nit but is that really what flopping the joint means? I was pretty sure it meant flopping the nut straight
Joint = straight afaik.
09-24-2012 , 08:47 AM
I'm a roller coaster addict.

Was in Toronto suburbs for a couple of days to visit my cousin's family.

He lives 5 minutes from Canada's Wonderland so I decided to check it out yesterday.

I order tickets online and get there in the morning before the opening time. As soon as I enter I go straight for the newest and biggest ride, Leviathan, before the lines get too long. It features a 300+ foot climb and then a near-vertical, 80 degree plunge that reaches a maximum speed of 92 mph. Then it twists into several up and down sections where you feel strong negative G at the top of the hill (inertia throws you towards the sky) before rapidly descending again. It was pretty intoxicating lol.

So I went on it again, this time waiting for a first row seat to really get the best out of it. And then I went on it a third time. Spent the rest of the day riding the other roller coasters in the park, but Leviathan was the best for the sheer drop.

PoV video of the ride, although it's much more exciting in person lol. Very smooth ride so you can have your arms up the entire time for more enjoyment.

09-24-2012 , 09:03 AM
Hit up cedar point if you have never been. Best coaster park
09-24-2012 , 09:07 AM
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Originally Posted by miamicheats
Hit up cedar point if you have never been. Best coaster park
Canada's Wonderland is owned by the same company so I imagine it must be fairly similar. Some of the rides are even identical. If I'm ever in that area I'll be sure to check it out though.
09-24-2012 , 09:45 AM
cedar point is good, i went there when I was like 13 or 14 but I was too chicken to ride the millenium.

I succeeded in dropping like 535 at an amazing 1/3 game where the average stack was like 750 that I was playing in after the vikings game. I played fine with the exception of a flop chr with air and turn barrel when I was pretty tipsy when I should have just shipped the river but w/e the flop chr and turn barrel was pretty +EV but he was near the top of his range with TPTK.

I had to triple barrel another guy on a T22 board when he limped in EP then called my flop/turn bet but I know he gives me quite a bit of respect. Then I had A4 on the BTN, newer tightish player limps with like 500 in MP, I raise to 15, BB calls, limper calls.

Flop is K93 checks to Hero who bets 20 into 40ish after the rake
blind folds, limper calls

Turn is the J
Checks, I bet 55, he calls

River is the 7 and I am planning on betting all non king, club, or tens so I check behind

Villain has A3

Like wtf, the only thing I can think of is that I was talking about the Vikings game during the pf/flop action and he must have thought that meant I was bluffing which I mean it obviously worked but like I wonder if he is actually calling a river barrel.

Also even more tilting is when I'm being super aggrotard but then I am never getting called when I actually have it, like wtf. Obviously I need to work on my poker face.
09-24-2012 , 10:31 AM
SABR:

I went to La Ronde in Montreal several times. They had some fun modern style rides and then there was this huge wooden ride. I like the wooden one because the ride isn't as smooth, there is a rattle, the whole thing wobbles a bit, and you feel like its about to break...


oh, btw, going up to NH today or tomorrow to most likely seal the deal on this baby:


      
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