doublefly you and I will be in the same situation so we can help each other figure out how to keep playing

I guess that's the ****** part about not being a single kid. if this was a couple of years ago I could have convinced my wife to take a year off from med school and we could have gone and lived abroad. oh well.

I'm having dejavu of last days of partypoker. What I learned from life is that everything works out at the end so do not worry. We're in very good position compared to the small stakes grinders who live by paycheck to paycheck. In worst case, we can take a break from poker for 14month, make sure u don't blow ur liferoll on coke/hoes and be back to the new online boom.

this is true, this feels just like it did at the end of party. only then I had a job at an engineering firm nah I'd be fine even if I just took the next 15 months off. I could budget for that no problem. but who wants to do that. I actually still really like playing poker online and it sure would suck to not be able to play as much.

just rambling, it's late and time for sleep.

I think I'll start a business. Let me know if you want a job.

i had no idea you guys had such issues with payment processors, cud u not just transfer to a friend in another country and get them to wire it from their bank? seems like a really easy solution or am i missing something?

I guess worse comes to worse, I'll be seeing you at foxwoods. :-)

Or maybe we can set up a cheap grindhouse in Montreal or something. I've always wanted to go. There are plenty of jobs where you have to travel out-of-state for most of the week (consulting, sales, etc)

Wires are no problem. Just checks and bank transfers.

if this bill passes, we should have a group chat about it (via MSN or whatever) to go over options. I would be shocked if other online poker sites don't step up to fill the void... but just in case...

Its perfectly fine to play on a VPN. If it crashes, just make sure you are back up and running before you log back in from Party. My VPN has gone down twice in 6 months. Went it went down, my laptop said I had no internet access. So I shut down Party and logged back into the VPN. Then I logged back into Party and got my tables back.


So playing with a VPN is not a problem. The problem is, where are the fishies?? The hardcore American players are going to keep playing but now for sure all the fish will be gone. Its going to sucko having to deal with the bumhunters. Imagine Stars but to the 4th power.

But on another subject, when the Americans open the market up again I hope they only allow our Latin American brothers to join them. Forget the Germans for sure. I will e-mail my senator to make an exception to our Latin American brothers and to our Italian brothers. Everybody else is out for sure, require SSNs for all players.

do you have a source for this? i've been living in that legislation thread for the last few days and was pretty certain there was a 2 year international blackout on licensed US sites, and then the option of allowing international players back in.

Seems I was wrong about this. I was told by another player who's been helping me with this (my knowledge of US law is poor at best) however I misinterpreted him. Sorry if I got anybody s hopes up about this.

Not good

I think there was speculation that intls could be brought back in (via legislation) after three years.

this is btw a good cliff notes thread that everyone should check at least once a day for the next few days: http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/57...-poker-933656/

Thanks for the link. I wonder how this will work out for us non-US-players. Will there be a rest of the world full tilt? Is my money on full tilt in danger? Looks like the poker market will be more segmented after this. Will be tougher for sites to gain critical mass of players.

Its been changed a few different times in different drafts of the bill.

also interesting (scroll down)
http://www.pokertableratings.com/top-countries

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...postcount=3526

Interesting......looking better (depending on how u look at it)

Retweet from Kevmath

Kevmath Kevin Mathers
Earlier tweet: ET @CKrafcik: DC tax lobbyist told me #ReidBill, will be nxt to impsbl. to enact unless incld in "base" Bush tax-cut bill.

lol.... Srry, I desn't coach
, but I guess being caught in this kind of spots from time to time will help you.....a lot ;-)


Full Tilt Poker $400.00 No Limit Hold'em - 9 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter By DeucesCracked Poker Videos

Hero (SB): $648.40
BB: $489.50
UTG: $605.30
UTG+1: $358.00
UTG+2: $400.00
MP1: $387.70
MP2: $402.00
CO: $759.50
BTN: $521.00

Pre Flop: ($6.00) Hero is SB with A 2
7 folds, Hero raises to $10, BB raises to $36, Hero raises to $80, BB raises to $180, Hero raises to $648.40, 1 fold

Final Pot: $360.00
Hero wins $360.00

Wow, the games are still so good. Please don't go away fulltilt.

villain like0731?

nope. was a rush reg

Wow. It seriously blows my mind that a midstakes reg could stick in that much of his stack and fold.

hey guys from belgium suck aswell, don't forget them

I guess we non-US players would still have good games. Here are the top ten of the countries with the worst rate in $/100 (only counting countries where combined loss is over 10 mil.). There just would be significantly less traffic.

Country / Net / $/100 / Hands

1 Switzerland $-16,868,075 $-13.20 127,822,806
2 Italy $-19,364,767 $-11.90 162,677,112
3 Denmark $-19,916,938 $-11.16 178,406,636
4 France $-40,769,602 $-10.77 378,434,714
5 Norway $-17,082,290 $-10.38 164,584,357
6 Australia $-31,989,777 $-10.11 316,307,425
7 Canada $-95,383,155 $-9.17 1,040,164,623
8 Belgium $-12,744,072 $-8.93 142,663,733
9 Sweden $-25,285,920 $-8.12 311,254,734
10 Netherlands $-33,168,114 $-7.95 417,079,276