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Originally Posted by johnny_on_the_spot
1/3 late Saturday night/Sunday morning @ casino
V is late 20s/early 30s Indian guy, dressed nicely. Seems to know what he's doing, he's in MP, has table covered at like 1600 (but all came from 1 hand when he bet/3 flopped 10 high flush vs a bad players 2P). A few hands earlier, I 3! His open, he quickly 4! And I mucked AQo. He's only seen me cold 4! Jam another hand where I had AK for 420ish (I've been fairly card dead at a very good table).
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V opens to 20 over 1 limp.
H (LP, 500) looks down at QQ and I raise to 70 (misclicked, meant 60 but brain farted to 70)
Folds around, he calls pretty quickly
---With no 4! And a quick call, I feel I'm ahead nearly 100%
Flop ($140): T82ccc
Both check
--- I'm not sure I should bet here, i think I'm only getting value from big clubs, which is a small part of his range. Not sure he has much Tx that he's thrilled to peel with here
Turn ($140): Qc
He bets 100 basically before the Q hits the board
I call
--- with the speed at which be bet, I feel like that removes flopped flushes and Ac because they would take a few seconds to think.
--- I do think the lack of cbet narrows my range to less club draws, so range vs range, he has more possible flushes
River ($340): 3h
He bets 175, again, extremely quickly.
I'm getting 3:1, so I only need to be good 25% of the time.
Anyone calling this?
I typically just flat preflop here. We're deep (we're not happy setting up commitment decisions). We're in position (we can just play postflop). We're in LP (there's a decent chance this'll go HU anyways). There's no other significant dead money in the pot worth fighting over (especially relative to stacks). Meh, but I'm passive like that.
As played, preflop (for better or worse) we setup an SPR of 3 and just flopped an overpair. If we're not doing this to commit by the turn on non A/K boards, I'm not sure why we're doing this. I PSB flop to shove blank turns and I'm not folding to shove. We went past the point of no return preflop, no point in slowing down now, imo.
I ship the turn. We've now moved ahead of anything that ain't a flush and even then we can still boat up. Pot is huge. More than a handful of horrendous river cards.
The question on the river isn't whether to fold or not (I'm folding 0% of the time). The question is whether we should just call or shove the rest in.
You played postflop the exact same way I would have played postflop *if* I flatted preflop. I don't understand why we played it this way given our 3bet.
ETA: Didn't realize the 4-to-a-flush came in on the turn, my bad. Still think we should have committed on the flop given preflop.
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