Really easy to get exploited that way even basic players can catch on to that

How? Their only adjustment is to call, so we can just check down when they do call and value bet if we catch up, or stop raising them if they stop folding to raises. Simple. And I doubt they'll catch on and adjust by 3 betting flop light. Vast majority of players aren't capable of doing that.

I agree with Nic on donk sizing tells, but that's just typical live poker players-most have bet sizes that are directly proportional to the strength of their hands.

FWIW, I think it's fine to have a open limping / overlimping range preflop (i.e. looks like we have a raise versus fold mentality, which I don't believe is always correct).

How reasonable is SB postflop? If he's fairly ABC / doesn't get out-of-line, I'm pretty cool with folding as well. I mean is he really donking a PSB with QJ? I also typically try to exit hands as early as possible, especially if there is simply a very good chance Villain is going to bet the turn again (where we'll then fold having given up our flop money). If he bets a weak looking 1/2 PSB or something then there'd be more argument for sticking around for a street, but here his betsizing indicates he's just attempting to protect his hand on a drawy board and ready to go to war with it.

Gnicehand,imoG

I have an overlimping range, KQs just isn't part of it in this case. And I'm not saying I have a raise or fold mentality, just that I hadn't limped to that point.

I agree with your point of folding as early as possible tho- I figure there's little merit to calling if I'm going to fold turn when he's likely to double barrel. Trying to get to showdown cheaply when a cheap showdown isn't likely is obviously bad. I'd have to hope for a diamond/scare card to come for him to shut down, in which case I'm losing to his flop made hands and his semi bluffs just got there, so I'm pretty much behind to his whole range and trying to get to showdown when my hand is never good anyway.

In a vacuum, it's probably a fold. SB donking pot into a field is rather strong.

If we have more about the post-flop tendencies of the SB, I could make a case for calling given we have backdoor equity and we may be able to credibly rep a flush if a spade falls on the turn/credibly rep a straight if an 8 or 3 fall. Again, it depends on the SB's tendencies.

If SB blindly bets draws often, the flop is a raise for value.

Big donk bets are big hands from some (most?) villains, nonsense from the rest. One of the downsides of this preflop raise size is the little room to maneuver here. The case for calling the flop is stronger is your facing a bet of $40 into $45.

Oh ok, I misunderstood.

(I'm also definitely raising KQs in this spot as well)

GnicehandG

1/2
(3-bet Pot)

(UTG+1) Hero $620: QQ, Perceived to be tight solid given this villain is semi-competent
(LP) Villain $350: Saw him get out of line before by very rarely esp in 3-bet pots first 3-bet with him, he is an old man TAG

Preflop: Hero raises to 15 in EP, folds to villain who 3-bets to 45, folds back to hero who calls 30. (HU to the flop)

Flop, Pot = 90
234
Hero x, V bets 100 (has 200 behind basically leveraging me OTF), Hero-folds

I figure im in bad shape vs. his range and im only beating some over-plays like JJ which i doubt he 3-bets me here, in bad shape against QQ, KK, AA, and AK. First 3-bet by villain during sesh, obviously not a light 3-bet i don't think he is ever capable of this even tho i have been opening quite frequently, but not that much preflop.

I don't know how often he will bluff here OTF to warrant a call... anyone else fold here...? Mind you this is the best hand i can have for cold calling a 3-bet if the board ran out better OTF i would def continue + bet sizing.

I fold this pretty quickly. Just calling pre to set-mine pretty much. They always have KK+ here.

Texture of the board is important. If there is a possible flush draw out there, a large donk bet from certain players is often a strong hand that is afraid of the flop checking through and a free card being given.

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(Turn line check MW LIMPED Pot)

Hero covers all villain's in hand.

(Button) Hero: KT

Preflop: Limped around 7-ways, including hero OTB (7-ways to the flop)

Flop, Pot = 15
T75
Checked around to V1 on HJ who bets 15 (bets w/worse a lot IP when xed to for protection/value lol?, loose asian whale), Hero calls 15, V2 calls 15, V3 calls 15. (Pot = 75, 4-ways)


Turn, Pot = 75
2
Checked aroudn to V1 again who has 100 left behind and he jams... Hero...? (Hero covers V2 tho V2 has 450, V3 has 200 something). Hero is for sure ahead of V1's range.

Raise pre

Raise pre

As played tho?

Probably really fishy to squeeze flop IP?

1/2, BTN straddle to $5.

Hero Young white guy, tight image, ~$170 behind in BB.

Hero raises to $18, Massive whale calls $18, Villain in MP 3bets to $45 (covers me), folds to Hero who...????


Reason I ask about this: Villain had been active preflop. This was like his 4th 3bet in the hour and a half that I had been there. The only hand I had seen from his 3betting was AA. He seemed like a decent player but with maybe a couple of leaks. I was debating 4bet jamming or folding, don't think just flatting is an option.

Hero has AK right?

Hero looks at his cards

"I put him on AK"

Oh sorry! If I had AK I wouldn't be posting, money is being shipped in. I had AQ.

Probably could get a ton of responses if you made a thread on this. AQ doesn't do so hot against a tight range. Is villain trying to isolate whale? Why is 3bet so small? Lots of questions, few answers.

I fold AQ about 97 percent of the time to a 3-bet.

Here is a hand a friend played recently. It was discussed by me and a couple of good players.

Hero is in BB with A 10 off. $1/3 NL. $300ish eff. stacks.

Bunch of limpers. Main villain is described as LAG.

Flop 10 10 6.

Hero checks. One player bets $19. LAG FLATS. One other caller and H raises ... I believe she told me it was $65. Original bettor folds and LAG makes it $115. Leaves about $180 behind.

What would you do in Hero's shoes?

Hero flats, if villain is really LAG and will barrel, hero checks turn. If villain will take free cards, hero can donk jam turn I guess but I'd rather let villain put it in bad than give a chance for him to fold correctly. Villain almost always has 3 or 4 outs here.

Trick question, as LAGs don't limp.

Can be tough to get fair responses as given the question is even being asked, LAG has 66 or T6. But in game I'm reraising as the x/r has already revealed my hand to be Tx and I've got an excellent Tx.

Why do players straddle? Surely it has to be a losing play to blindly put money into the pot when you don't have to, even on the button.