i've installed today table ninja but i cannot set my scroll up or down to do any function. is it possible and how?

thanks

Something else pretty urgently needed imo is something that stops new tables opening in random places when you're moved tables in an mtt sng. ie you have a tourney in top right of screen in a 45 man, you move tables and new table pops up in top left of screen. REALLY tilting!

What I'd like to see in total, without wishing to sound too pedantic, you're doing an excellent job already of course, is an auto closer of tourney lobbies that open upon registering. Granted they auto close once the tourney itself starts, but the fact they open at all is annoying for mass multi tabling. An auto table closer for when busting out and sometimes when getting moved in mtt sng the old table doesn't close. An auto closer of that annoying pop up when a game has finished about wanting to register another table.

From what I understand, here is what Chiren's setup does:

-Tables begin in one stack
-Table pops out when action is required...if action is FOLD then table goes back into stack
-If action is anything other than fold, then table stays out (tiled) so he can see the action until he folds or the hand is over.

End result is that he can watch all tables where he has VPIP'd which is great.

Wonder if anyone can help me..

I have set up Sit n Go opener, when I click start the software just registers for one SNG even though I have asked it to open up to 15 tables.

Is this a common problem and is there an easy solution?

Thanks

I like the wacka-mole analogy and I definitely agree that his setup is more visually appealing than stacking. I'd definitely curious to get more feedback on this from the community.

We have other people requesting that we actually make the refresh time faster so we compromised on letting people use the "Disable hotkeys toggle" to temporarily disable the info tab refresh for note taking.

We had 2 other people mention this problem, one of them was using placemint and was able to fix the problem by closing placemint while selecting the location. For the other person we never figured out the cause of the issue.

However, you can manually specify the location by editing your TNConfigAutoLoad file.

If you open your configuration file in noted pad there will be a line like this:

SET_TABLE_ASIDE_HOTKEY_1 = <ctrl>-D1::0,0,529,364

The last 4 numbers are the x,y coordinates of the top left and bottom right corners of the location where the table will be moved to.

We currently only allow for 4 locations and they need to be on separate hotkeys, but we may decide to upgrade this in the future.

Unfortunately you can only use scroll up and scroll down to change the bet-size. They cannot be hotkeys.

I'm not sure why you have tourney lobbies open at all, are you using the register to identical if full option, or are you opening them by hand. Due to a bug in Stars using "register to identical if full" will open lobbies (with or without TN running) but if you shut this off you are unlikely to ever need to open a lobby for anything. Did you somehow turn on the "auto-open Sit & Go tournament lobby" option in PokerStars?

Also, are you using "Remember Table Positioning" in Stars? Tables should pop up to where ever the last table was when it closed so I'm a bit confused on the "tournaments popping up in random places" issue also.

Ahh I didn't understand that the table only pops back into the stack on folding, that makes a lot more sense and I definitely see the value in it.


My guess is this is a configuration issue. Can you post a screen shot of your Sit-n-Go Opener tab so that I can see your settings?

Thanks guys,

Tarath

Now that Stars has added color-coded notes, this could make it possible to include a table selection method in the SNG opener. You can see the color of the note in the tournament lobby, which should be easy for Table Ninja to recognize. Would it be possible to create a system of rules like "Do not join table if greater than X red/yellow/orangle players" etc.?

Hi Tarath,

question, is it possible that SNG sensei also works for autoreg for steps? Don't know if this is asked before, just in case,

thanks,

Kees

Right now TableNinja does not open the tournament lobbies because this causes a lot of flashiness and steals focus from tables. The color coding doesn't really help much (reading the text isn't that hard).

The basic problem is that making the opener use the tournament lobbies really slows things down and causes it to interfere with your games.

I believe everything should work for step tournaments. It should work for anything that you can filter for under the Sit & Go tab.

If you encounter any problems using it for step tournaments let me know.

Tarath

Just wanted to chime in on the Chiren discussion.

I wasn't that excited about the idea when I saw the video because I had the same impression as Tarath (full stack popping out when action needed and return to stack when action is complete).

The whack a mole description sounds like it might have some merit. I know I'm personally brain fried after 4 hours of 20 tabling without a break while stacking and maybe moving my eyes around more would help -- or maybe moving my eyes around more would just take up time needed for decision making. I guess one would just have to try it and see.

The only return to stack if folded or hand complete idea however has totally changed my mind. If the tables come out and tile and only return to stack if folded then the possible trade off of needing to move your eyes more to scan tables in different positions is offset by getting better reads on the other multi-tabliing players you get involved in hands with. That could very well turn out to be +EV even if the whack a mole benefit isn't enough (and it might be).

This is a big problem for me as well. Would be great if there was some solution to this. It's prevented me making notes up until now but with this whole colour-coded thing coming in it would be nice to make use of it.

Yeah I think this is exactly my thoughts on the setup. I didn't realize at first that the idea is to tables only pop back into the stack when the hand ends and that is what makes it smart.

Is the problem just that using the "Disable hotkeys toggle" to turn off the info tab refresh is too time consuming?

I'm not completely sure I completely understand the issue.

Tarath

yes its too time consuming to disable and re-enable hotkeys everytime you want to tag someone with a colour note

just an option to change the refresh from 5 seconds to 10 seconds would help, you could put it in the options somewhere for people to set whatever time suits them

Yeah it's this, plus you might want to be using hotkeys to act on another table whilst mid-trying to write a note.

Would be nice to be able to write a note or at least colour code someone without having to disable all hotkeys, and I've never kept notes on Pokerstars because this refresh button effectively prohibits it, but is too valuable a function in MTT SNGs to lose function of...

If you can somehow make TableNina move tables autmatically to a predefined spot and automatically move it back into the stack when done, that would be stacking a lot more feasible and profitable. I really like Chiren's setup.


Example: having 20 tables in a stack on the bottom left of your monitor (or on a 2nd monitor). Tables jump to slots 1,2,3,4,5,6,7 (I have a 30 inch monitor), etc automatically when you have a decision and when you are done with the hand, it automatically sends it back to the stack and another table (if applicable) takes it's spot. I actually don't think this would be possible since it sounds kind of complicated, but it's worth a mention. This would make 18 tabling pretty easy since it's like tiling.

hi,
is it possible to add a bet timing function to table ninja? like a time counter counter running down so its possible to give away no timing tells.

this feature would also add a new group of customers to table ninja since many non mass tabling players dont really need the current functions of table ninja but would probably like this one

I'm bring back to life my 8 month old post about the TABLE OF INTEREST automatic table stacking and shifting paradigm. Since there's talk of Chiren video showing the auto tiling.


============ old post # 1169 8 months ago =============
I would like TableNinja to automatically move "tables of interest" (TOI) out of the main stack(s) and automatically popback "tables of interest" (TOI) to the main stack(s).

The conditions to move the TOI out the main stack would be defined by as any hand where the user "sees" the flop and the pot size is greater than X big blinds where X is defined by the user in the Table Control tab.

A typical default value for X would be like 8 which would accomodate a standard preflop raise and it's headups. Some users might choose a higher value like 15 and a TOI becomes a bigger pot where there's heavy flop action or turn action.

And TableNinja will automatically "remember" to popback a TOI table when the hand is over to the originally location of the stack(s) where we MOSTLY CONCENTRATE ON PREFLOP FOLDS.

I think it will greatly improve cascade/stack playing with autocruise for TOI sorting. We can call this table control method "TOI automove". I think this feature will make TableNinja more powerful than ever.


I've loved the evolution of the TableNinja software in it's sophistication and features, but was disappointed that my TOI automove suggestion was never implemented. Since this would be the ultimate way to autocruise in stack mode.

Hello Tableninja stops working for me during the session. When i start session everything is working fine but often after 30 mins the functions "Set Table Aside Hotkeys" and the "All In" (Middle Button) stop working. Other functions like Screen Display, SNG Opener, and pot betting are still working fine mostly.
Im using win7, HEM-HUD, Logitech M705.
Sometimes after restart Ninja it works again but often it wont even after restart.
Plz help this is really tilting me.
thx

Any Idea when M is going to be implemented Tarah?Right now I cant use the TableNinja custom theme because it isn't compatible with poker shortcuts which I use for the OSD.Thanks for the sweet program once again I can't imagine playing poker now without it lol.

eehm, yes it works, forgot I could also filter through SnG - all (fpp), thanks

I agree completely

I think your idea was ahead of its time , and I'm sorry we didn't implement it. I think at that point TableNinja had so many things that needed to be added that we had to make a lot of tough decisions about which features to focus on.

Are all of these functions on your mouse hotkeys? There is a bug in windows 7 that can turn of TableNinja's mouse hotkeys when random CPU spikes occur. This issue is affecting a number of programs and is being discussed on the microsoft forums but we have not been able to find a work around yet. The best thing you can do is to minimize CPU usage while playing poker by closing other programs (or use keyboard hotkeys).

Glad you like the program

M is pretty high on our list but we have a lot of things going on right now so I'm not sure when exactly it will happen. Probably not for at least a month.

Glad to hear it

Thanks guys,

Tarath

ok thx for reply. this is really bad since i dont like using keyboard hotkeys at all. When will you or microsoft be able to fix this ? I mean i know that you cant tell exactly but will it be a month, 6 month, a year??
Will you post on this forum when the bug is fixed?

Yo tarath just had an idea, what if i go in Logitech Setpoint and give the mouse buttons a keyboard code. F.e. Now when i press MButton it jams all in, but i can change MButton to click F10 or so in Logitech setpoint. So i put in Tableninja F10 for all In. Now middle button should activate F10 and it jams all in. What do you think could this solve the issue?
Dont wanna just try and tilt my ass off during session again, when it stops working again.
Hope you got what i meant, sorry for bad english but its not my first language.
thx

I don't really know that I can give any kind of ETA on a fix, particularly if the fix comes from microsofts end.

I actually think that what your describing with Setpoint very well could work. My guess is that logitech interacts with your mouse at a lower level than TableNinja can and thus is unaffected by the problem in windows.

I can't promise anything but I think there is a high probability that it will work. I would recommend trying it at play money, and then doing something really CPU intensive while playing (like changing your windows theme, or streaming high res video, etc) and seeing if your mouse hotkeys keep working. If they do then there is a very good chance that things will work smoothly during your sessions

Tarath

confirmed that this happens only when I tile 3x3 to 9table on 24'' (1920x1200), but not when 3x2 to 6table.

So is it possible? Any plans to implement it soon if it is? Need to know if I have a shot for SNE next year and also need time to get used to it

Yo I fixed my previous problem thanks.

I have the purchased version of table ninja and I have another problem...

When a new table loads up table ninja sees the table which hasn't started yet as requiring action. This means that other tables do not come to the front so I must click off the table and and then I have less time to act on other tables.

This can become annoying as I just use hot keys, is there a solution to this?
Is it possible to have a hotkey set to bring up the next table needing action so I can skip the tournament that hasn't started yet

I am running vista x64

Thanks