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10-06-2010 , 04:38 PM
sat fold and stack key is still triggering the "folding is free..." checkbox

it must hit the fold button before tableninja?


or maybe thats something to do with the lag? idk



the lag is a pretty massive issue, somewhere between 20-24 tables on my machine it all goes nuts, ultimately caping the number of tables i can play with the program

looking at the cpu usage in task manager it appears to take up a ton of resources to run sat vs the same set of programs without it
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10-06-2010 , 04:41 PM
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Originally Posted by 22riverrat22
sat fold and stack key is still triggering the "folding is free..." checkbox

it must hit the fold button before tableninja?


or maybe thats something to do with the lag? idk



the lag is a pretty massive issue, somewhere between 20-24 tables on my machine it all goes nuts, ultimately caping the number of tables i can play with the program

looking at the cpu usage in task manager it appears to take up a ton of resources to run sat vs the same set of programs without it
It could be that your CPU is doing the work of your graphics card, you might want to look at upgrading the graphics card in your PC
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10-06-2010 , 05:01 PM
hey greg

I have the setting on preflop however when I get action at hu, the active table snaps back to the grid. I've had to turn off the program when i action, so i'm basically using it to just stack tables when i first open the site up : /

Also, I use 2 monitors - anyone having a really bizarre video glitch? After awhile, the tables get messed up. I can still see like 75% of it just fine but the 25% looks like someone punched my monitor
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10-06-2010 , 11:35 PM
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Originally Posted by 22riverrat22
i thought it was my machine and or hem usage that was primarily causing massive lag/preformance issues when in the 20-30 table range

if SAT is a contributing factor its definitely an issue

have you mass tabled with the comparable program that was formerly available but isnt anymore and do you know if there are comparable performance "hits" mass tabling on that program as well?

perhaps contacting the creator of that program regarding "tweaks"/performance fixes once youre ready to undertake them would be something to consider


i do think that SAT's functionality would allow me to 40+ table if there wasnt exponentially more lag/freezing past 20 tables (tbh ive been thinking i am going to buy an overbuilt desktop to try to get that ability, so good/efficient/nonintrusive performance is extremely important to me and knowing whether my issues are primarily software or hardware based before plunking down hundreds of dollars on a new desktop would be good)
TOI i'm sure was using the same method of scanning for pixels. theres really not much other way around this. once i upgrade to newer windows version ill be able to improve things further. in future version ill also include different scan methods that you can TRY, but no guarantees.

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Originally Posted by 22riverrat22
how about including a 'fold to any bet" hotkey
dont know, this is a stars-only thing and i'm hesitant to make things site-specific


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Originally Posted by eyeraiseyou3
Yeah the engine delay and the other number right with it on the about tab. I made them both the max numbers you can. It helped but still not great. Now when that delay is reached, it spikes to 100% for a second obviously because SAT is trying to read the tables.

In my case, i dont think i need SAT to read the tables because i'm not pulling them out during play at all. I just want to use it to put a new table into a stack.

Either way yeah if i could make that number huge so it happens once an hour or something for the next version and i'd be able to use SAT i think.

As it is now, i have to 38table without SAT, and just deal with the random focus stealing problems of new tournaments.
yeah the problem is that 'Never' mode still DOES scan the tables. this is because, lets say you actually do manually move an important table into grid. well, SaT will need to keep the urgent tables on top of the stack, even while the table in grid needs action. i suppose i could add yet even another option to 'never scan', actually 'bring tables to top' should do this, but currently it doesnt, so ill need to change that i think

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Originally Posted by Syous
hey greg

I have the setting on preflop however when I get action at hu, the active table snaps back to the grid. I've had to turn off the program when i action, so i'm basically using it to just stack tables when i first open the site up : /
preflop setting means that tables are supposed to move to grid when action is required. what are you after?

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Also, I use 2 monitors - anyone having a really bizarre video glitch? After awhile, the tables get messed up. I can still see like 75% of it just fine but the 25% looks like someone punched my monitor
what sites are you playing on?
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10-07-2010 , 12:33 AM
Thanks Greg that would be great. I have the pokerstars client popping up action needed and have hot keys with tableninja to pull up urgent table if needed.

If there was a never scan, and it simply allowed me to load tournaments in one stack, and then have me use a hotkey to move them into another that would be great.

Thanks for the help and look forward to the next version.
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10-07-2010 , 12:43 AM
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Originally Posted by Syous
Also, I use 2 monitors - anyone having a really bizarre video glitch? After awhile, the tables get messed up. I can still see like 75% of it just fine but the 25% looks like someone punched my monitor
http://stackandtile.com/sat/node/9
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10-07-2010 , 01:07 AM
Hey greg,

i got a damn problem and i cant get it done. im using Windows7 64bit and i have tableninja for the betsizes installed. i have 3 monitors 26" and the grid conifgured and all done.

the tables open then in the grid09 (where they should be stacked in and new tables be openend into) but they wont move when action is required. they just pop up but dont move into the grid!

i tried everything but dont know how to manage.

Windows7 64bit, Aero Theme, Pokerstars Hypersimple. standard size

thanks for ya help
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10-07-2010 , 05:37 AM
I'm playing on stars and FTP

I want my stacked tables on one monitor while I play the active tables on another monitor!
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10-07-2010 , 10:32 AM
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Originally Posted by 22riverrat22
the lag is a pretty massive issue, somewhere between 20-24 tables on my machine it all goes nuts, ultimately caping the number of tables i can play with the program
22riverrat22, eyeraiseyou

if you are on Windows Vista or 7, you can try this setting and see if it helps your lag, or if it breaks SaT urgent detection altogether. you'll need to be using Aero theme, but add this line to your config ini under [settings]

alternate_scan=1

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Originally Posted by eyeraiseyou3

Either way yeah if i could make that number huge so it happens once an hour or something for the next version and i'd be able to use SAT i think.
i just remembered, you might be able to increase the number huge by just editing your config ini file directly. look for the line "engine_delay=" and you can try adding a zero or two and seeing if that helps for now. i think the GUI interface only limits you to 10,000

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Originally Posted by Syous
I'm playing on stars and FTP

I want my stacked tables on one monitor while I play the active tables on another monitor!
so.. with preflop setting, the active tables are SUPPOSED to go to grid. just have your grid slots on second monitor and your stack slot on your first. what is happening that you don't want?

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Originally Posted by supersaladman

the tables open then in the grid09 (where they should be stacked in and new tables be openend into) but they wont move when action is required. they just pop up but dont move into the grid!
you are using 'preflop' tile setting right? and your newtables and stackslot are the same? when you look at the program under the Start button, does it list all the tables as stacked or newtables? in the next version i've fixed this bug, but for now, if SaT recognizes all these tables as 'New', then youll need to initially 'stack' them. since your stack and newtables slot are the same, the tables won't move anywhere different, but SaT will internally recognize them as stacked instead of new
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10-07-2010 , 11:07 AM
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Originally Posted by greg nice
22riverrat22, eyeraiseyou

if you are on Windows Vista or 7, you can try this setting and see if it helps your lag, or if it breaks SaT urgent detection altogether. you'll need to be using Aero theme, but add this line to your config ini under [settings]

alternate_scan=1
i turned off aero theme as one of the first performance tweaks when i got the computer, havent seen it since the first week i owned it tbh

if i try this later all i have to do is enable aero and add that line in the config ini for SAT?
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10-07-2010 , 11:15 AM
yeah, i believe aero will be more intensive for your overall system, but it might actually help SaT. but someone reported that that setting wasn't detecting any tables needing action, so i removed it from the options until i could test myself

so just a temporary thing to try until i implement some further performance fixes
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10-07-2010 , 12:05 PM
another thought regarding the "rush poker ish" popping up tables when they have cards dealt to preact on them

a dual stack setup (one inactive/no cards stack, one stack where cards ahve been dealt and then a grid for vpipped tables)
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10-07-2010 , 12:13 PM
ps gridsize/tablesize adjustment fixed autofold checkbox selecting
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10-07-2010 , 02:55 PM
I"ll try alternate scan in a bit. I did already try to change the number to larger than 10,000 in the ini file, but when you reopen SaT it just goes back to the max on its own.

Thanks for the efforts, i'll try what you said in a bit.
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10-07-2010 , 03:05 PM
Actually it might have worked. My ini file still shows a number larger than 10000 even though the gui says 10000. However, now when tables open, they move to my main stack and then jump over to my new table stack, i'm guessing it happens when that engine delay number is met, it then goes where it supposed to. That defeats the purpose for me. Hopefully that made sense.

There is no spiking of lag in the task manager though. i'm thinking the alternate scan thing may be working.
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10-07-2010 , 03:11 PM
alright, so keep alternate scan and keep the max that the gui allows for engine delay, see if you still get the crazy lag.
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10-07-2010 , 03:23 PM
I think it's going to be a million times better, i just loaded up some play money tables and observed the task manager and it doesnt show any lag there. I'll play later on and report back. Regardless if it worked, which i think it may have, thanks for the effort.

Also what is action delay? i know what engine delay is.
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10-07-2010 , 03:26 PM
it might just be working because alternate_scan is failing and not scanning anything, in that case it wont work for others who need detection, but great for you!
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10-07-2010 , 03:42 PM
Just messing around with it, i noticed after watching task manager and loading up some play money tournaments, that all of a sudden it was maxing out in cpu usage. i checked the ini file and it had alternate_scan= then nothing, the 1 disappeared.
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10-07-2010 , 04:11 PM
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Originally Posted by eyeraiseyou3
Just messing around with it, i noticed after watching task manager and loading up some play money tournaments, that all of a sudden it was maxing out in cpu usage. i checked the ini file and it had alternate_scan= then nothing, the 1 disappeared.
if you clicked 'save' in advanced options after you manually added the line to your file, the 'save' button probably overwrote the setting and made it blank. so if you add it again, just dont click save in advanced options and see if it retains the value
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10-07-2010 , 06:03 PM
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Originally Posted by 22riverrat22
another thought regarding the "rush poker ish" popping up tables when they have cards dealt to preact on them

a dual stack setup (one inactive/no cards stack, one stack where cards ahve been dealt and then a grid for vpipped tables)
So an offscreen stack for no cards/folded cards tables from which tables are pulled out when cards are dealt and put in a

stack for tables with cards that havent been acted on yet, a fold sends them back to the no cards tables stack and a vpip sends them into the

grid
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10-07-2010 , 06:07 PM
i doubt i would add yet another stack to the program, but also i dont even see the reason for having the first with nocards. if you're never gonna look at it anyway, the nocards tables can just be in the same stack at the bottom, while cards pop to the top

anyway this feature is a ways out
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10-08-2010 , 07:42 PM
Hi, I play sngs on party. Your program does not support sngs, they do not move to the appropriate slot. Could you please add support for sng on party?

Thanks a lot
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10-08-2010 , 10:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Dijgoho
Hi, I play sngs on party. Your program does not support sngs, they do not move to the appropriate slot. Could you please add support for sng on party?

Thanks a lot
does it work for cash games on party?
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10-09-2010 , 01:18 AM
Here's my config file as requested:

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[settings]
table_width=480
table_height=352
total_slots=9
slot1x=0
slot1y=0
slot2x=480
slot2y=0
slot3x=960
slot3y=0
slot4x=1440
slot4y=0
slot5x=0
slot5y=352
slot6x=480
slot6y=352
slot7x=960
slot7y=352
slot8x=1440
slot8y=352
slot9x=0
slot9y=704
stack_slot=9
newtables_slot=grid
move_on_street=preflop
alternate_scan=
activate_on_move=0
left+clickdetection=1
bring_urgent_tables_to_top=1
engine_delay=300
hotkey_sleep=100
left_click_detection=0
[general]
gui_x=482
gui_y=734
last_tab=
[sites]
number_of_sites=1
included_sites=FullTiltPoker
FullTiltPoker_executable_path=C:\Program Files\Full Tilt Poker\FullTiltPoker.exe
FullTiltPoker_resized_table_width=480
FullTiltPoker_resized_table_height=352
FullTiltPoker_fold_color=0x9C7708
FullTiltPoker_fold_x_scaled=310
FullTiltPoker_fold_y_scaled=320
FullTiltPoker_call_color=0x9C7708
FullTiltPoker_call_x_scaled=370
FullTiltPoker_call_y_scaled=320
FullTiltPoker_included_executable_path=C:\Program Files\Full Tilt Poker\FullTiltPoker.exe
FullTiltPoker_included_resized_table_width=480
FullTiltPoker_included_resized_table_height=352
FullTiltPoker_included_fold_color=0x9c7708
FullTiltPoker_included_fold_x_scaled=310
FullTiltPoker_included_fold_y_scaled=320
FullTiltPoker_included_call_color=0x9c7708
FullTiltPoker_included_call_x_scaled=370
FullTiltPoker_included_call_y_scaled=320
[hotkeys]
number_of_hotkeys=1
hotkey1action=Stack table
hotkey1key=F8
send_table_under_mouse=1
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