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10-21-2019 , 07:48 PM
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Originally Posted by PaulyJames200x
Thus imagine every X is a table whether its stars/888/party. Let say when i open the 9th table, it shows on on one of those X's. Let say 2nd monitor and 1st quadrant or top left. I want to move this table to the 1st monitor quadrant 1. I would just move that table and just drag it to that quadrant and it would automatically stick to that spot so to speak... so i don't have to manually move it and place it exactly where i want it to be so there would no overlap. Does that make sense?
Sounds like you would want the tables to 'snap' into the slots when you drag it near them.


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So in my example, let say i have 16 tables. Let say i have 10 stars, 3 tables of 888 and 3 tables of party. With my 8 quadrants, let say i want 5 of those quadrants to be stars table, 1 would be 888 and 2 would be party. Something like this

Monitor 1 Monitor 2

Party Party 888 Stars
Stars Stars Stars Stars

But is this possible since 3 party tables would occupy 2 quadrants on party? When you see one quadrant of 888 and 3 tables, you obviously know that i mean behind that one 888 table, there is like 2 behind it.

Of course i might want some party table on a different quadrant or say i want like 5 quadrants to be party instead if im playing on party mostly. So i cannot do this what i described? So what about moving a table from one quadrant and moving it to another spot... if i do this, does it automatically like stick immediately to that quadrant i want it to be? I find this very useful as it would just stick to that spot.
Yeah, I understand your requirement, but unfortunately SaT does not do this. In SaT, each quadrant you describe is simply called a "slot". You're wanting each of your slots to be able to hold a stack of tables underneath. Right now, SaT only allows one main slot to hold a stack of tables, and all of the other slots (quadrants) can only hold 1 table each.

SaT does allow you to drag tables around and the tables will 'snap' into each designated slot, which I think is what you want. But if a table already occupies that slot, SaT will swap them out, kinda like you said PartyCaption is doing.


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Well I would never want an 888 table over a stars table or party table over stars table. I never do this because the software that i use now... it would like conflict with each other. So example if i have stars table over 888 table, im not sure if the 888table pops up when action is on it because a stars table using different software is over it.
Right this is EXACTLY the problem. And that's why SaT doesn't support each slot to have multiple tables stacked underneath, YET. Because when I do eventually add this, my players will be able to mix and match any tables, and SaT will handle all of the popping up, so that you dont have to fear misclicks. Its on my todo list but just not done yet. Its a big change to how the software currently is built, and I am very risk adverse as to not break things for my existing players who are getting lots of value currently. However, based on your post, maybe I will take a stab at doing this a bit sooner. I dont know, I have some other big changes to work on too


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Well i want to have the option to move one table from quadrant 2 in monitor 2 to quadrant 3 in monitor 1 anytime i want and vice versa. And each time i do that, it would just immediate stick to that exact quadrant i want. I dont want the program to automatically move a table to a specific quadrant because... well now the blinds are the highest or say i have a short stack in this tournament. Does that make sense? Basically i want to move tables to any quadrant manually based on what i see. Example if i have a table where its down to less players, sometimes i want only that specific quadrant to have only that 1 table... while other quadrants might have even 5 tables on that quadrant if say i have 2 tables at the moment i want to see all the action on.
I think it makes sense. SaT wouldn't "lock" a table into any slot. You'd be able to freely drag and drop them around.


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Okay so basically I can't do postflop bet sizing then on 888? The thing is preflop bet sizing is not that important because the software for each site gives you a few options so you could have min raise, 2.25x, 2.5x, 3. So that is already fine. But for postflop, sometimes you want more bet sizing amounts like say 60% pot, 80% pot etc.
I just tested my Bet%pot hotkey solution on 888 and it worked. Its not in the main download yet, but its working in my development version. So this will be possible in the next release.

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So as of now, Stackandtile doesn't offer what i want to do based on all my criteria?
As of now, no, SaT wouldn't be able to handle all of those quandrants each holding multiple tables underneath.


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Also Stackandtile doesn't show pot odds on the table? Example with other programs, you can show pot odds and terms of fraction or percentage. Example pot is 1000 chips, someone bets 500 chips, it would show 3:1 odds or 25% equity etc. So this program does not do that? What about showing everyones BB stack in big bold number? I know there is option to do this on stars and party but when you do this, you cant see how much chips someone has unless you change it back and forth. The other programs you can just have someones BB stack on each player so you dont even need to change the stack to bb each time if you want to look at it that way.
SaT does not show Pot Odds, nor does it show stacksize in BB. Its unlikely these features will be added. These are more HUD-like features.

Last edited by greg nice; 10-21-2019 at 07:56 PM.
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10-22-2019 , 01:33 AM
Hi there. Thanks for all that information.


I guess I cannot use stackandtile then because the things i want with the other programs... i can't use with it. Yea the moving table and snapping into the slots is what i like. And the moving tables to any quadrant is what i want.


Thanks again.
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10-26-2019 , 02:14 AM
Hello is it possible to set the windows equally spaced in the layout?

Also is it possible to seperate the feature where you can drag and drop tables onto empty slots without swapping tables. Sometimes I swap two tables when all I wanted to do was move the table to an empty slot.
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10-26-2019 , 09:24 AM
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Hello is it possible to set the windows equally spaced in the layout?
Yes, you can click on Visualize Grid, and then click on the Auto Align button, and it will give you some options as to how you want to space things


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Also is it possible to seperate the feature where you can drag and drop tables onto empty slots without swapping tables. Sometimes I swap two tables when all I wanted to do was move the table to an empty slot.
Hmmm, if I understand you correctly, no there isn't. You just want to be able to drag a table to an empty slot only? And if the slot already has a table then you want the drag to fail? Do you sometimes just misclick release and drop the table before you've reached your target slot with the yellow border?
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10-27-2019 , 03:13 AM
Hey Greg I've been having this issue using SaT on Ignition where the hotkey click positions get moved when the background color of the table changes, such as final tables or jackpot sit n goes. The hotkeys still execute but they click in the wrong places when the background color of the table isn't the same color as the one I used when I added the site on SaT
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10-27-2019 , 05:10 AM
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Originally Posted by EmilioChekshevez
Hey Greg I've been having this issue using SaT on Ignition where the hotkey click positions get moved when the background color of the table changes, such as final tables or jackpot sit n goes. The hotkeys still execute but they click in the wrong places when the background color of the table isn't the same color as the one I used when I added the site on SaT
the table background color shouldn't matter, but do the actual BUTTON colors change?

can you paste screenshots of the normal table when its your turn to act, and also when the background changes and its your turn to act?

Last edited by greg nice; 10-27-2019 at 05:24 AM.
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10-27-2019 , 07:53 PM
oops, misread your post. Here are both tables before its my turn to act

https://gyazo.com/d29991b5c9722ee663d716863c214062

https://gyazo.com/b8eac131d79309457b9fb6424bec436d



edit: an important piece of information I forgot to mention-- the hotkey clicks hit the targets for the advanced action buttons on final tables but dont switch over to the button locations when its my turn to act

Last edited by EmilioChekshevez; 10-27-2019 at 08:17 PM.
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10-27-2019 , 09:33 PM
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edit: an important piece of information I forgot to mention-- the hotkey clicks hit the targets for the advanced action buttons on final tables but dont switch over to the button locations when its my turn to act

one thing I just noticed-- if I use the ignore table hotkey, the reverse happens, the advanced action hotkey clicks are inaccurate but when its my turn to act its fine. The click locations dont change regardless if its my turn to act or not
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10-28-2019 , 12:41 AM
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Originally Posted by EmilioChekshevez
oops, misread your post. Here are both tables before its my turn to act
nope you were right the first time, i wanted to see them when it was your turn to act... it looks like the color shades of the actual fold/call/bet buttons DO change with the table background.. i have an idea, looking into it now

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Originally Posted by EmilioChekshevez
edit: an important piece of information I forgot to mention-- the hotkey clicks hit the targets for the advanced action buttons on final tables but dont switch over to the button locations when its my turn to act
yes because likely SaT always thinks the table never requires action.. SaT probably isn't bringing the table to the top either for final tables

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Originally Posted by EmilioChekshevez
one thing I just noticed-- if I use the ignore table hotkey, the reverse happens, the advanced action hotkey clicks are inaccurate but when its my turn to act its fine. The click locations dont change regardless if its my turn to act or not
interesting ok.. doesn't make sense to me why Ignored tables would be different.


let me see if i can get a fix.. check back tomorrow
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10-28-2019 , 03:32 PM
my original idea didnt work, i have to try something totally new to get around this problem
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10-29-2019 , 02:12 PM
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Originally Posted by EmilioChekshevez
Hey Greg I've been having this issue using SaT on Ignition where the hotkey click positions get moved when the background color of the table changes, such as final tables or jackpot sit n goes. The hotkeys still execute but they click in the wrong places when the background color of the table isn't the same color as the one I used when I added the site on SaT
ok sir, please try this version v2.98.08c

https://www.stackandtile.com/sat/tmp...tup-29808c.exe

Remove and re-Include the "BodogIgnition" site, and test it out fully and let me know what you find
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10-29-2019 , 06:17 PM
the fold and call hotkeys are good to go but now the all in hotkey is hitting the pot button until it gets shifted over when the timebank button appears

Last edited by EmilioChekshevez; 10-29-2019 at 06:24 PM.
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10-29-2019 , 08:53 PM
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Originally Posted by EmilioChekshevez
the fold and call hotkeys are good to go
so they're working good on both normal tables as well as final tables?

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but now the all in hotkey is hitting the pot button until it gets shifted over when the timebank button appears
When you Included the site, did you press F10 before the timebank was showing like the msg said? Can you try Removing and re-Including and make sure of that?

edit/ ahhh sorry you mean that the all-in hotkey is failing only on those final tables right? because I think those betSize preset buttons change colors too when the background color changes. probably all of the betSize hotkeys will be inconsistent. i'll look into it

Last edited by greg nice; 10-29-2019 at 08:58 PM.
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10-29-2019 , 09:12 PM
It was happening on all the tables, not just FTs. I just tried re-adding the site and its working now. I must have just caught the first few seconds when the timebank button appeared and didnt notice. Sorry about that! Thank you so much for fixing that for me I really appreciate it
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10-29-2019 , 10:54 PM
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Originally Posted by EmilioChekshevez
It was happening on all the tables, not just FTs. I just tried re-adding the site and its working now. I must have just caught the first few seconds when the timebank button appeared and didnt notice. Sorry about that! Thank you so much for fixing that for me I really appreciate it
Well did you check it on both the regular tables and final tables, with both timebank visible and not visible? I think there may still be issues on some of those 4 scenarios. I will look into it
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10-29-2019 , 11:05 PM
Everything is all good on my end. Regular table and FT clicks are accurate. Thanks again!


Also Ive been meaning to ask, would it be possible to add a "Auto click timebank on Bodog/Ignition" option in the Advanced Options>Sites tab?

Last edited by EmilioChekshevez; 10-29-2019 at 11:11 PM.
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10-29-2019 , 11:26 PM
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Originally Posted by EmilioChekshevez
Everything is all good on my end. Regular table and FT clicks are accurate. Thanks again!
hmmmm ok


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Also Ive been meaning to ask, would it be possible to add a "Auto click timebank on Bodog/Ignition" option in the Advanced Options>Sites tab?
its possible but i don't want to do this just for one specific site, i'd rather add timebank support for all sites, its possible in the future but no guarantees
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10-30-2019 , 03:22 AM
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Originally Posted by EmilioChekshevez
Everything is all good on my end. Regular table and FT clicks are accurate. Thanks again!
can you check when you actually click the timebank and it turns black? and then try the betsize and allin hotkeys and see if they work on both reg and final tables?
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10-30-2019 , 01:19 PM
greg,

had to install SaT on a new laptop, now testing it out, when im playing on stars and I open the replayer, the replayer is detected as a new table, and is therfor moved to my stack (slot 1) of tables.

How to avoid that?

thanks
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10-30-2019 , 01:53 PM
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greg,

had to install SaT on a new laptop, now testing it out, when im playing on stars and I open the replayer, the replayer is detected as a new table, and is therfor moved to my stack (slot 1) of tables.

How to avoid that?

thanks
Go to SaT's advanced options, Sites tab, check the box for "Require 'logged in as' in the Stars title"
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10-30-2019 , 02:01 PM
ahh, right, perfect.

why is that option not there for party btw?
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10-30-2019 , 02:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Haarlem91
why is that option not there for party btw?
i can't find the replayer on Party, but maybe that's because there is no replayer on play money

Can you open up a Party table, and also the replayer for that same table, and then use SaT's menu item for Help->Diagnostic->Get Window Title, and paste me the results for both the table and replayer windows?

then i can see if there is any unique text that we can exclude
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10-30-2019 , 03:06 PM
greg,

https://gyazo.com/f527e12a8ec5c0e0d1861c8cddd4b4c6

tables don't pop up when action is required, anything wrong here? i was using these options on my old laptop.
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10-30-2019 , 03:07 PM
^ and yeah will do that partything soon

replayer:

title=[$2 Buy-in 6-Max NLH 141 - NL Hold'em - $0.01/$0.02],class=[#32770],pid=[9476]

table:

title=[$2 Buy-in 6-Max NLH 141 - NL Hold'em - $0.01/$0.02],class=[#32770],pid=[9476]

Last edited by Haarlem91; 10-30-2019 at 03:15 PM.
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